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drmrkelleydrmrkelley Posts: 141
edited August 2011 in Other Music
I'm seeing them for the first time tonight. Anybody here going? I've never seen them live but I like a lot of their music. Do they put on a good show? To tell you the truth, I've sort of forgot about them over the last 10 years or so. Hopefully it's a good show but it's at a casino and I hear casinos like to cut setlists short so people have more time to gamble.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Seen them live twice.....both were excellent shows
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  • Cool Face RyanCool Face Ryan Posts: 1,254
    saw them live last september, and they rocked pretty good. Scott sounded good, and they threw in some cool jams too, but the 20 song set list was a little disappointing, especially cause I wanted to hear more!
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  • SM187650SM187650 Canada Posts: 797
    Don't get me wrong STP will be a great show. However, this idea of them playing Casino's is lame. Casino's don't usually let bands have openers and its not a legit concert experience. No offence to STP cuz they were rocking in their prime, but they are taking the easy way out by playing small casino shows because they are super safe (ticket sales, promo, booking, etc). Fans won't be able to party it up in the audience as much as an arena. Maybe if Scott Weiland was one tenth as dedicated to his fans as Ed and co STP would be getting ready to go on tour with the Jam right now. The saddest thing is that the band is great and they have been hung out to dry by Scott. Milk it STP, lol.
  • Jamminonthe1Jamminonthe1 Posts: 1,243
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.
  • Mamasan23Mamasan23 Posts: 16,389
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.

    I would agree with you here.
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  • Raineman311Raineman311 Posts: 127
    Saw them in '08 after missing out on seeing them in the 90's and they didn't disappoint. Was 5 rows back and they kicked things off with "Big Empty" and Scott sounded perfect, they still have it.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I'll be seeing them next Tuesday, let me know how it goes :)
  • CServantCServant DCO Posts: 1,182
    Back in the day, they put on one of the best shows! Now, it's more hit-n-miss with them. It'll be fun, but don't get overly excited as that's when they tend to disappoint.
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.

    I would agree with you here.

    after seeing both bands twice each, I'd also agree. STP is awesome live, but VR kicked serious ass. Weiland lit up the stage with his swagger with VR.
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    STP was one of the best concerts i've been to when i saw them @ the borgata recently. i really need a ticket to their show in newark now.. and to think i was going to sell my ticket because of the 5 hour ride to the show :D
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  • drmrkelleydrmrkelley Posts: 141
    Well I don't care what their motivations are or that they started almost an hour late, that show kicked serious ass last night. It was general admission, so we were right up on the stage on the bassist's side. They came out strong and never let up. I love Weiland's mannerisms and the band's jams. He may be the dude I've seen that can rock the skinny jeans. They didn't just play radio hits, either. We heard a couple songs from their newest album which sounded great live, especially Hickory Dichotomy. I have no idea what it means but it sounds good. Their encore kicked major ass, also. The length certainly isn't on par with PJ concerts, but the quality was fantastic. I definitely recommend checking them out if they come anywhere near you.

    As a side note, you have to walk through the casino to get to where the concert was and to leave to get to the parking lot. Judging by the number of people there, you cannot tell me the economy is doing that bad.
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  • Dead Man WalkingDead Man Walking Toronto-ish Posts: 2,762
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.
    I think he's just getting older and rock and roll is catching up to him. If you had seen STP first you'd think the same about the Velvet Revolver show.

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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Dead Man Walking wrote:
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.
    I think he's just getting older and rock and roll is catching up to him. If you had seen STP first you'd think the same about the Velvet Revolver show.

    I disagree. I think the music for VR really allowed him to turn it up a notch. Most of STP's bigger tunes were mid tempo whereas that first VR album is one uptempo tune after another. The time I caught VR he was more animated and moved around as much or more than ANY performance I've seen from him with STP
  • Raineman311Raineman311 Posts: 127
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Mamasan23 wrote:
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.

    I would agree with you here.

    after seeing both bands twice each, I'd also agree. STP is awesome live, but VR kicked serious ass. Weiland lit up the stage with his swagger with VR.

    Swagger I would agree with, but performance wise I think he was pretty close. Although when I saw VR at Virgin Festival in 2007, as they were ending with Slither it started to lightly rain and it might have been the most epic thing Ive ever experienced.
  • Atomic PunkAtomic Punk Posts: 2,941
    STP now compared to STP in the mid 90's is no contest. They used to play a lot longer back then and the energy was electric. They put on some of the best shows I have ever seen back then, and I have seen PJ 29 times. In the dozen STP shows I have seen you could see the gradual regression. Now you get about 17 songs and because of Scott they are hit or miss every night. The DeLeos and Kretz are ALWAYS on fire though. The DeLeos even kicked serious ass live when they were with Army of Anyone. Scott is what makes or breaks their shows and he is too unpredictable. Their setlists, however, have become very predictable. Rob DeLeo does not get along with Scott and it shows when they play live these days as opposed to back in the day.

    So, in summation, if you've never been, definitely worth the experience. If you have been, no need to see the same show over and over again because that's what it is these days.

    And yes, Scott was different when Contraband was being supported with VR. He was also very different in his solo shows. As a matter of fact, when I saw him supporting Happy in Galoshes I had NEVER seen him as happy as he was then around his band mates and enjoying what he was doing.

    Here is a show I went to in the 90's:
    MSG - NYC:
    Pop's Love Suicide
    Crackerman
    Meatplow
    Tumble in the Rough
    Vasoline
    Still Remains
    Silvergun Superman
    Wicked Garden
    Daisy (Acoustic)
    Dancing Days (Acoustic)
    Creep (Acoustic)
    Pretty Penny (Acoustic)
    Seven Caged Tigers (Acoustic)
    Sweet Emotion (w/ Steven Tyler and Joe Perry)
    Lick And A Promise (w/ Steven Tyler and Joe Perry)
    Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart
    Plush
    Piece of Pie
    Big Empty
    Interstate Love Song
    Lounge Fly
    Lady Picture Show
    Unglued
    Big Bang Baby
    Dead and Bloated
    Sex Type Thing

    I went to a couple others that I cannot find setlists for, like Stabler Arena in 1997 which had a similar setlist.

    Here's what you get in recent tours:

    Crackerman
    Heaven And Hotrods
    Wicked Garden
    Vasoline
    Between the Lines
    Hickory Dichotomy
    Still Remains
    Big Empty
    Silvergun Superman
    Plush
    Interstate Love Song
    Huckleberry Crumble
    Down
    Sex Type Thing
    Dead And Bloated
    Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart


    Quite a difference! I love them, but it just seems like it is for the $$ now.
    Shit they even made their latest album in locations separate from each other.
  • oona leftoona left Posts: 1,677
    Atomic Punk wrote:
    STP now compared to STP in the mid 90's is no contest. They used to play a lot longer back then and the energy was electric. They put on some of the best shows I have ever seen back then, and I have seen PJ 29 times. In the dozen STP shows I have seen you could see the gradual regression. Now you get about 17 songs and because of Scott they are hit or miss every night. The DeLeos and Kretz are ALWAYS on fire though. The DeLeos even kicked serious ass live when they were with Army of Anyone. Scott is what makes or breaks their shows and he is too unpredictable. Their setlists, however, have become very predictable. Rob DeLeo does not get along with Scott and it shows when they play live these days as opposed to back in the day.

    So, in summation, if you've never been, definitely worth the experience. If you have been, no need to see the same show over and over again because that's what it is these days.

    And yes, Scott was different when Contraband was being supported with VR. He was also very different in his solo shows. As a matter of fact, when I saw him supporting Happy in Galoshes I had NEVER seen him as happy as he was then around his band mates and enjoying what he was doing.

    Here is a show I went to in the 90's:
    MSG - NYC:
    Pop's Love Suicide
    Crackerman
    Meatplow
    Tumble in the Rough
    Vasoline
    Still Remains
    Silvergun Superman
    Wicked Garden
    Daisy (Acoustic)
    Dancing Days (Acoustic)
    Creep (Acoustic)
    Pretty Penny (Acoustic)
    Seven Caged Tigers (Acoustic)
    Sweet Emotion (w/ Steven Tyler and Joe Perry)
    Lick And A Promise (w/ Steven Tyler and Joe Perry)
    Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart
    Plush
    Piece of Pie
    Big Empty
    Interstate Love Song
    Lounge Fly
    Lady Picture Show
    Unglued
    Big Bang Baby
    Dead and Bloated
    Sex Type Thing

    I went to a couple others that I cannot find setlists for, like Stabler Arena in 1997 which had a similar setlist.

    Here's what you get in recent tours:

    Crackerman
    Heaven And Hotrods
    Wicked Garden
    Vasoline
    Between the Lines
    Hickory Dichotomy
    Still Remains
    Big Empty
    Silvergun Superman
    Plush
    Interstate Love Song
    Huckleberry Crumble
    Down
    Sex Type Thing
    Dead And Bloated
    Trippin' On A Hole In A Paper Heart


    Quite a difference! I love them, but it just seems like it is for the $$ now.
    Shit they even made their latest album in locations separate from each other.

    Wow, great summary.

    I saw them for the first time last summer (and the setlist was almost identical to the second one listed above; I noticed that whole tour they would change out literally just two songs). It was a good show, but not outstanding.

    Part of it is sentimentality on my part: it's fun to sing out loud to the songs I was listening to when I was 14 years old. To hear them played well makes the experience that much better.

    And, I went with my brother and my 14-year-old nephew -- there aren't many bands that I'll be able to see with him that I listened to when I was his age, and that he likes. This is special to me.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,889
    they're here tonight. thinking about trying to get a cheap ticket around showtime.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    DewieCox wrote:
    Dead Man Walking wrote:
    Jamminonthe1 wrote:
    I thought Weiland put on a better show with Velvet Revolver. Was pretty disappointed seeing STP.
    I think he's just getting older and rock and roll is catching up to him. If you had seen STP first you'd think the same about the Velvet Revolver show.

    I disagree. I think the music for VR really allowed him to turn it up a notch. Most of STP's bigger tunes were mid tempo whereas that first VR album is one uptempo tune after another. The time I caught VR he was more animated and moved around as much or more than ANY performance I've seen from him with STP

    Sorry but I gotta disagree, STP in their prime were virtually untouchable, and Scott moved around plenty (and they had far more classic songs than VR:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcBgZusacI

    I've seen Scott numerous times with both STP and VR, and nothing will beat the time I saw STP in London about ten years ago - I'd rate it as being up there with any show by pretty much any band I've seen.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    facepollution wrote:
    Sorry but I gotta disagree, STP in their prime were virtually untouchable, and Scott moved around plenty (and they had far more classic songs than VR:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIQf_3Cw6Q4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcBgZusacI

    I've seen Scott numerous times with both STP and VR, and nothing will beat the time I saw STP in London about ten years ago - I'd rate it as being up there with any show by pretty much any band I've seen.

    STP is superior in every way to VR, no argument there. I never said he didn't dance and move around with STP. That Plush vid is a perfect example of what I'm talkin about. He's movin around puttin on what I would consider appropriate stage move, but compare it to a good performance of most Contraband songs and he just seems manic. You can see what I'm talkin about by watching those 2 STP vids....on Trippin he's just all over the place and on Plush he's all over the place in a more subdued manner. Just comes down to the tempo of the songs really. I wasn't making a statement about the quality of his front man moves. You'd be hard pressed to find better than his.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    back in the day, around the Purple and Tiny Music times, these guys were elctryfying live.

    Now, it's knd of a best of type show. Perfect for Fairs and Casinos :)
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  • CobCob Posts: 858
    ComeToTX wrote:
    they're here tonight. thinking about trying to get a cheap ticket around showtime.

    Was at a friends 40th Birthday party last night, saw another friend there that I knew was going to the STP show, I said where's your wife, he said she bailed, I have a free extra ticket, do you won't to go? I said I'll pass, how was the show?
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,889
    it was good. a little short but pretty much a "greatest hits" setlist, which was good for me. wasn't sold out but it was pretty full. love that venue but drinks are pricey.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    ComeToTX wrote:
    it was good. a little short but pretty much a "greatest hits" setlist, which was good for me. wasn't sold out but it was pretty full. love that venue but drinks are pricey.

    I just got back from Austin and was at that show. I really liked the Moody, sound quality was excelent. I thought STP put on a pretty decent show and did a good job including the crowd. Overall pleasant experience :)
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