Riots in England

dunkman

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

the majority of these idiots couldn't spell democracy... they are only doing for this for new trainers, jeans, phones or a TV.

catefrances

dunkman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

the majority of these idiots couldn't spell democracy... they are only doing for this for new trainers, jeans, phones or a TV.

i have to say, im quite keen on the cons bosey zips.. but im not gonna riot about it. 8-)

Jason P

First spot we hit it was my liquor store,
I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford,
red lights flashin' time to retire,
And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire,

Next stop we hit it was the music shop,
It only took one brick to make that window drop,
Finally we got our own p.a.,
Where do you think I got this guitar that you're hearing today

Cowards and thieves.

Drowned Out

Now imagine if the Iranians or Libyans began training and arming these rebels….

Sian-of-the-dead

catefrances wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

would you be okay with the army being sent in to secure peace?

i think from the moment army goes on street,then no democracy exist..

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

I both agree and disagree. Considering this whole thing started due to authority shooting a man, armed military presence (Marshall Law) will goad these brain dead morons further. Hand guns have already been seen and rioters have shot at police, we don't need them trying to further prove the Country can't handle the situation.
On the other hand, the Police are over stretched and certainly not coping in certain areas (Manchester was literally a game of cat and mouse) so we could do with a strong authoritive presence that won't take any shit... only trouble is, if they bring in the military, the Government have to admit they're not coping and that won't happen; ten minutes after a car fire was started in Coventry last night, the Chief Inspector tweeted that Coventry was calm and there were no disturbances. They're playing it down BIG TIME.

Cameron announced water cannons are on stand-by... that's something I guess.

Sian-of-the-dead

dunkman wrote:

the UK? you mean England

What was the nationality of the little shit that was arrested for trying to instigate riots on Facebook?

That's right...

Scottish.

Mango

Why would the army be needed?!!? The problem here is that it is no longer acceptable to give someone a belt with a baton cause every little fucker has their camera phones on them looking to accuse them of battery & assault. The incident that took place in Tottenham is now a completely seperate issue to what has been happening across the UK. If this is deemed a crisis call a curfew and when the old bill come across these little scumbags they should baton charge them and not have to be afraid of the consequences. At the moment they don't fear the police or what awaits them after this all settles down (what an asbo or community service?). It pisses me off seeing the complete lack of respect for peoples property and right to earn a living.

Thats my 2 cent anyway.

dimitrispearljam

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

if they use army in this....will use it as well easily in the next strike,the next demostration...for defense as u said...

Ms. Haiku

I'm thinking of you all across the pond. I hope you are safe.

dimitrispearljam

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

I both agree and disagree. Considering this whole thing started due to authority shooting a man, armed military presence (Marshall Law) will goad these brain dead morons further. Hand guns have already been seen and rioters have shot at police, we don't need them trying to further prove the Country can't handle the situation.
On the other hand, the Police are over stretched and certainly not coping in certain areas (Manchester was literally a game of cat and mouse) so we could do with a strong authoritive presence that won't take any shit... only trouble is, if they bring in the military, the Government have to admit they're not coping and that won't happen; ten minutes after a car fire was started in Coventry last night, the Chief Inspector tweeted that Coventry was calm and there were no disturbances. They're playing it down BIG TIME.

Cameron announced water cannons are on stand-by... that's something I guess.

police can solve it..they dont want to use to much violence..there special teams in police can do the job..they let this go different..all is politics..nothing to do with people in the streets or police work..its a fuckin politic game..

Hinn

Clapham Junction, 2-3 minutes drive up the road, is VERY smashed. 1 place went on fire, but didn't spread.

Hinn

dunkman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

the majority of these idiots couldn't spell democracy... they are only doing for this for new trainers, jeans, phones or a TV.

One guy had a sack of rice. Some girls had armfuls of crisps. Some kid was riding away with a shopping basket of cola.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Hey, Dunk! The riots have hit Scotland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356br ... r_embedded

Hinn

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Hey, Dunk! The riots have hit Scotland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356br ... r_embedded

I thought this was gonna be about Neil Lennon

catefrances

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

if they use army in this....will use it as well easily in the next strike,the next demostration...for defense as u said...

strikes do not need defending against. nor do demonstrations as a rule. what is happening in the england is rioting for riotings sake. its gotten so far out of hand the police seem hamstrung. im sure theyd dearly love to use the force needed to quell the violence. these people need to go back to their homes and take stock of the destruction theyve created. do they even know why theyre rioting anymore, or has it just become opportunistic? mob mentality is not a pretty thing.

dimitrispearljam

catefrances wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i disagree dimitris.. this looting and mindless violence that is taking place is not an expression of democracy. the army is there for defense.. i see no difference if the threat comes from within or without.

if they use army in this....will use it as well easily in the next strike,the next demostration...for defense as u said...

strikes do not need defending against. nor do demonstrations as a rule. what is happening in the england is rioting for riotings sake. its gotten so far out of hand the police seem hamstrung. im sure theyd dearly love to use the force needed to quell the violence. these people need to go back to their homes and take stock of the destruction theyve created. do they even know why theyre rioting anymore, or has it just become opportunistic? mob mentality is not a pretty thing.

i saw the movie in the past..if army is used...will be used in all the difficult cases..police have teams to solve it..they dont want to..they want all this hate-violence to put out..and go in peace alone..

dunkman

Mango wrote:

Why would the army be needed?!!? The problem here is that it is no longer acceptable to give someone a belt with a baton cause every little fucker has their camera phones on them looking to accuse them of battery & assault. The incident that took place in Tottenham is now a completely seperate issue to what has been happening across the UK. If this is deemed a crisis call a curfew and when the old bill come across these little scumbags they should baton charge them and not have to be afraid of the consequences. At the moment they don't fear the police or what awaits them after this all settles down (what an asbo or community service?). It pisses me off seeing the complete lack of respect for peoples property and right to earn a living.

Thats my 2 cent anyway.

dunkman

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Hey, Dunk! The riots have hit Scotland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356br ... r_embedded

that is funny as hell....

dunkman

Sian-of-the-dead wrote:

dunkman wrote:

the UK? you mean England

What was the nationality of the little shit that was arrested for trying to instigate riots on Facebook?

That's right...

Scottish.

that he is... still doesnt detract from the fact that these are English riots... not UK. This is like when you shites claim Andy Murray to be British when he's in a final... but Scottish if he gets put out 1st round

instigating a riot and being part of one are two separate things.

Thoughts_Arrive

dunkman wrote:

the UK? you mean England

The news here is calling it UK Riots :?