Obama's re-election campaign/strategy

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    arthurdent wrote:

    Besides, I don't think we're ready for another semi-literate governor from Texas.

    Fair or unfair (mostly unfair), this typecast is something else Perry will have to work to overcome. Perry is not GWB, and in fact, the pair squabbled often when GWB was governor here. There's been some talk Perry won't win the GOP nomination because former Bushies (aka Rove) will mobilize to make sure it doesn't happen.

    Perry is far more fiscally conservative than Bush is, and was openly critical of Bush's fiscal policy when Bush was in the White House.

    There are hundreds of reasons Perry shouldn't be president but "he's just another governor from Texas" isn't one of them. In fact, it's borderline offensive for people to say that. It would be like saying, "Obama's been such a disaster, we don't need to elect another black guy."
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    brianlux wrote:
    Parachute wrote:


    Any religion at all makes Dems uncomfortable.

    I honestly don't know any Dems like that, including me.


    There's about 100 of them on this board. Mingle...

    Do you honestly not read the way Christians are persecuted on this board by gays and non-believers?

    If i used similar rhetoric to describe the gays on here, I'd be banned fatser than Kat can say Yes We Can- same for Muslim rhetoric.

    Christians are consistently persecuted here- and peace lovin', tolerance preachin' self-described hippies on this board turn a blind eye. All day everyday.

    Stand up for tolerance of all people, PJ fans, or else you're just a damn hypocrite.

    I'm callin everyone out.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    If I were on the President's team (which I have been in the past), this is what I would focus on. The far left is upset with him, the far right is upset with him...so he must be doing something right that the average American voter agrees with. His numbers with independents are right where they should be going into 2012.

    Since taking office, the economy has grown. Unemployment is still at 9%, but that's a tough number to bring down. The stimulus has proven to create jobs and improve the country's crumbling infrastructure.

    All the President has to do is run a down the middle campaign and he will win. When you're running against a fractured party that no one can center around...the work is being done for you. Run down the middle and the President will get another 4 years.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    arthurdent wrote:

    Besides, I don't think we're ready for another semi-literate governor from Texas.

    Fair or unfair (mostly unfair), this typecast is something else Perry will have to work to overcome. Perry is not GWB, and in fact, the pair squabbled often when GWB was governor here. There's been some talk Perry won't win the GOP nomination because former Bushies (aka Rove) will mobilize to make sure it doesn't happen.

    Perry is far more fiscally conservative than Bush is, and was openly critical of Bush's fiscal policy when Bush was in the White House.

    There are hundreds of reasons Perry shouldn't be president but "he's just another governor from Texas" isn't one of them. In fact, it's borderline offensive for people to say that. It would be like saying, "Obama's been such a disaster, we don't need to elect another black guy."


    Refreshing. You're exactly right.


    oh, and Rick Perry will win in 2012...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Parachute wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Parachute wrote:


    Any religion at all makes Dems uncomfortable.

    I honestly don't know any Dems like that, including me.


    There's about 100 of them on this board. Mingle...

    Do you honestly not read the way Christians are persecuted on this board by gays and non-believers?

    If i used similar rhetoric to describe the gays on here, I'd be banned fatser than Kat can say Yes We Can- same for Muslim rhetoric.

    Christians are consistently persecuted here- and peace lovin', tolerance preachin' self-described hippies on this board turn a blind eye. All day everyday.

    Stand up for tolerance of all people, PJ fans, or else you're just a damn hypocrite.

    I'm callin everyone out.

    superior-kitteh-wont-get-off-his-high-horse.jpg
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    If I were on the President's team (which I have been in the past), this is what I would focus on. The far left is upset with him, the far right is upset with him...so he must be doing something right that the average American voter agrees with. His numbers with independents are right where they should be going into 2012.

    Since taking office, the economy has grown. Unemployment is still at 9%, but that's a tough number to bring down. The stimulus has proven to create jobs and improve the country's crumbling infrastructure.

    All the President has to do is run a down the middle campaign and he will win. When you're running against a fractured party that no one can center around...the work is being done for you. Run down the middle and the President will get another 4 years.

    The President's numbers with Independents has the President shitting in his pants. I would love to see some facts on your assertions. Would also love to know what position you occupied on which "President's Team".

    I'm gonna guess, Clinton, and Secretary of State.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Parachute wrote:
    If I were on the President's team (which I have been in the past), this is what I would focus on. The far left is upset with him, the far right is upset with him...so he must be doing something right that the average American voter agrees with. His numbers with independents are right where they should be going into 2012.

    Since taking office, the economy has grown. Unemployment is still at 9%, but that's a tough number to bring down. The stimulus has proven to create jobs and improve the country's crumbling infrastructure.

    All the President has to do is run a down the middle campaign and he will win. When you're running against a fractured party that no one can center around...the work is being done for you. Run down the middle and the President will get another 4 years.

    The President's numbers with Independents has the President shitting in his pants. I would love to see some facts on your assertions. Would also love to know what position you occupied on which "President's Team".

    I'm gonna guess, Clinton, and Secretary of State.

    Just saying: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gal ... ll-time-lo
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Parachute wrote:
    If I were on the President's team (which I have been in the past), this is what I would focus on. The far left is upset with him, the far right is upset with him...so he must be doing something right that the average American voter agrees with. His numbers with independents are right where they should be going into 2012.

    Since taking office, the economy has grown. Unemployment is still at 9%, but that's a tough number to bring down. The stimulus has proven to create jobs and improve the country's crumbling infrastructure.

    All the President has to do is run a down the middle campaign and he will win. When you're running against a fractured party that no one can center around...the work is being done for you. Run down the middle and the President will get another 4 years.

    The President's numbers with Independents has the President shitting in his pants. I would love to see some facts on your assertions. Would also love to know what position you occupied on which "President's Team".

    I'm gonna guess, Clinton, and Secretary of State.

    His numbers ARE down with independents. I didn't say that he had high numbers, I said that they were good for 2012. IF the Republicans get their shit together and can fully support one candidate (which will not happen), at that point Obama should be "shitting in his pants" about independents. If the I's have a choice between a down the middle incumbent and a radical right (or left)...they play it safe and go with the incumbent.

    I don't have to explain to you how far back I go with the President.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    You go back with THIS President? I find that interesting.

    You brought it up, I was just askin...

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Parachute wrote:
    You go back with THIS President? I find that interesting.

    You brought it up, I was just askin...

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    Yes. I go back with THIS President.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Parachute wrote:
    You go back with THIS President? I find that interesting.

    You brought it up, I was just askin...

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    Yes. I go back with THIS President.


    Interesting. He could use your help in his re-election bid. What advice, besides running the middle, would you give Obama to help in his re-election?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Parachute wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    You go back with THIS President? I find that interesting.

    You brought it up, I was just askin...

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    Yes. I go back with THIS President.


    Interesting. He could use your help in his re-election bid. What advice, besides running the middle, would you give Obama to help in his re-election?
    i don't think it should matter so someone who is not going to vote for him under any circumstances.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    Parachute wrote:

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    sweet, I've probably met half a dozen of the Apollo astronauts. We've probably met before. Although I would've pegged you more as Ed Mitchell than Neil Armstrong.

    8-)
    Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
    Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    arthurdent wrote:
    Parachute wrote:

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    sweet, I've probably met half a dozen of the Apollo astronauts. We've probably met before. Although I would've pegged you more as Ed Mitchell than Neil Armstrong.

    8-)


    I taught John Glenn how to golf.

    :D
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    Parachute wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:
    Parachute wrote:

    BTW, I walked on the Moon, but I don't want to say on which mission. 8-)

    sweet, I've probably met half a dozen of the Apollo astronauts. We've probably met before. Although I would've pegged you more as Ed Mitchell than Neil Armstrong.

    8-)


    I taught John Glenn how to golf.

    :D

    Al Shepherd's dead.

    And in case you're wondering, this one ain't bullshit. I used to have a close relationship with the folks that provided the props for Apollo 13 and the From the Earth to the Moon miniseries.

    Apollo 17: Gene Cernan, Ron Evans
    Apollo 16: Charlie Duke
    Apollo 13: Jim Lovell
    Apollo 7: Wally Schirra

    (OK, so that was only five... ya got me on that one)

    I also attended the 40th anniversary celebration of Apollo 13 last year. And have met Gene Kranz more than once. And I have a piece of Gus Grissom's Liberty Bell 7 capsule sitting on my desk.


    :P
    Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
    Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Unemployment is still at 9%, but that's a tough number to bring down.




    The stimulus has proven to create jobs and improve the country's crumbling infrastructure.

    tuff sell. Is Obama going to say, I know millions of you can't find work, but, it's a tough number to bring down.

    The stimulus did what?
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    "The shovel-ready jobs, uh... weren't as shovel-ready as we thought. Ha ha."

    -President Barack Obama
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    :D
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Parachute wrote:
    There's about 100 of them on this board. Mingle...

    Do you honestly not read the way Christians are persecuted on this board by gays and non-believers?

    If i used similar rhetoric to describe the gays on here, I'd be banned fatser than Kat can say Yes We Can- same for Muslim rhetoric.

    Christians are consistently persecuted here- and peace lovin', tolerance preachin' self-described hippies on this board turn a blind eye. All day everyday.

    Stand up for tolerance of all people, PJ fans, or else you're just a damn hypocrite.

    I'm callin everyone out.
    ...
    Wow. That was quite a dramatic, yet comical rant.
    Christians get a bad rap because of what some Christians do in the name of Christianity. They are deserving of getting asses put into place when they, for example, try to legislate their beliefs, based upon their religion, into the public domain.
    No one... even those whom to claim to persecute you... say you cannot pray or say 'Merry Christmas'. We are saying, you cannot force me to follow your lead in YOUR prayer, nor can you force me to say 'Merry Christmas' to you. you know who is really persecuted? The poor black guy in the inner city that you and people who share your outlook will lump into lazy, welfare riding criminal gang members. Talk to that guy about persecution in America.
    ...
    If you really ARE a Christian... You'd know these words:
    “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
    “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. In this manner, therefore, pray:

    Our Father in heaven,
    Hallowed be Your name.
    Your kingdom come.
    Your will be done
    On earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our debts,
    As we forgive our debtors.
    And do not lead us into temptation,
    But deliver us from the evil one.
    For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

    “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
    ...
    The Irony I see with persons such as yourself... if you were to meet Jesus... the Liberal, poor people loving, turning the other cheek to terrorists Jesus... you would probably lump him in with me... and all of the other people you despise.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited August 2011
    Those poor, inner city welfare recipients could use a good job. Where are the jobs Mr. President?

    "Well, usamamasan1, that's a tough number to bring down, the unemployment number that is".
    Post edited by usamamasan1 on
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Cosmo wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    There's about 100 of them on this board. Mingle...

    Do you honestly not read the way Christians are persecuted on this board by gays and non-believers?

    If i used similar rhetoric to describe the gays on here, I'd be banned fatser than Kat can say Yes We Can- same for Muslim rhetoric.

    Christians are consistently persecuted here- and peace lovin', tolerance preachin' self-described hippies on this board turn a blind eye. All day everyday.

    Stand up for tolerance of all people, PJ fans, or else you're just a damn hypocrite.

    I'm callin everyone out.
    ...
    Wow. That was quite a dramatic, yet comical rant.
    Christians get a bad rap because of what some Christians do in the name of Christianity. They are deserving of getting asses put into place when they, for example, try to legislate their beliefs, based upon their religion, into the public domain.
    No one... even those whom to claim to persecute you... say you cannot pray or say 'Merry Christmas'. We are saying, you cannot force me to follow your lead in YOUR prayer, nor can you force me to say 'Merry Christmas' to you. you know who is really persecuted? The poor black guy in the inner city that you and people who share your outlook will lump into lazy, welfare riding criminal gang members. Talk to that guy about persecution in America.
    ...
    If you really ARE a Christian... You'd know these words:
    “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
    “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. In this manner, therefore, pray:

    Our Father in heaven,
    Hallowed be Your name.
    Your kingdom come.
    Your will be done
    On earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our debts,
    As we forgive our debtors.
    And do not lead us into temptation,
    But deliver us from the evil one.
    For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

    “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
    ...
    The Irony I see with persons such as yourself... if you were to meet Jesus... the Liberal, poor people loving, turning the other cheek to terrorists Jesus... you would probably lump him in with me... and all of the other people you despise.


    Don't appreciate the personal attack. You call me a racist? You know nothing about "me and people like me."

    Reported.
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    Parachute wrote:

    Don't appreciate the personal attack. You call me a racist? You know nothing about "me and people like me."

    Reported.

    here we go again

    :roll:

    Some people just need to grow the f*** up.
    Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
    Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited August 2011
    Ummmm... okay.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Parachute wrote:
    Don't appreciate the personal attack. You call me a racist? You know nothing about "me and people like me."

    Reported.
    ...
    Calling you a racist? No. a Drama Queen... yeah, you made that obvious... but, a racist? How did you formulate that?
    I only know of you from WHAT YOU Post. I am taking it at face value that you are speaking for yourself and are not portraying a character that is the archial-type American Conservative Republican/Tea Party member.
    If you ARE simply playing that role... then, the message goes to the character you are representing.
    ...
    Again... please, read Jesus' Sermon From The Mount.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    Cosmo wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    Don't appreciate the personal attack. You call me a racist? You know nothing about "me and people like me."

    Reported.
    ...
    Calling you a racist? No. a Drama Queen... yeah, you made that obvious... but, a racist? How did you formulate that?
    I only know of you from WHAT YOU Post. I am taking it at face value that you are speaking for yourself and are not portraying a character that is the archial-type American Conservative Republican/Tea Party member.
    If you ARE simply playing that role... then, the message goes to the character you are representing.
    ...
    Again... please, read Jesus' Sermon From The Mount.

    me thinks he doth protest too much.
    Rock me Jesus, roll me Lord...
    Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Those poor, inner city welfare recipients could use a good job. Where are the jobs Mr. President?

    "Well, usamamasan1, that's a tough number to bring down, the unemployment number that is".
    ...
    Here is an example of persecution...
    I used a law abiding black man who has an education and is looking for a job... and is considered to be just another welfare riding by a fellow American.
    THAT... is persecution.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • KatKat Posts: 4,907
    This discussion has gone far afield from President O'Bama's campaign and re-election strategy so it looks like it's done. Please do not derail topics. Thank you.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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