26 Suicides Blamed On Pedophile Catholic Priests in Oz

Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6106928687

Even though 26 suicides have been attributed to the actions of pedophile priests such as Father Robert Best, local Catholic officials in Australia say that no inquiry is needed into the deaths. All of the suicides occurred at schools where Best taught. He has pleaded guilty to dozens of counts of child molestation.

Here's a picture of the head child molester Robert Best...
RobertBest.jpg


"I think we've learnt a lot of things about what is appropriate behaviour and what's not appropriate behaviour," Bishop Connors said. "I think people are very well informed nowadays as to what's inappropriate approaches from a male." While conceding the abuse of children was wrong, he said that in the past "it had not always been clear to everyone what was appropriate and inappropriate behaviour."

You mean to tell me that Catholic Priests need to have it explained to them clearly that "it's not appropriate to fuck the altar boys?"
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    ComeToTX wrote:
    it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.

    agree

    :(
  • BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,832
    ComeToTX wrote:
    it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.

    agreed +1
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    add another 26 to the death toll of the catholic church...sad...
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    pandora wrote:
    There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.
    I think as an organization, the Catholic Church can most certainly be blamed. If they brought the priests to justice and were 100% open with those investigating, then I'd agree with you, however, they knew what was happening yet did nothing to stop it.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    pandora wrote:
    There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.

    agree, but there are hundreds of thousands of molestation claims in the catholic church that have been ignored and covered up for years and years. when the head of the church is involved in the cover up it can't be blamed on just a few.

    not to mention their historical hatred of women and gays...
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  • pandora wrote:
    There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.


    I would agree with you except the Catholic church, from the Bishop Conners in this story (who said he screwed the kids because nobody told him not to) all the way up to the Pope (who has knowingly protected pedophile priest from prosecution) support this behaviour.

    Do ALL Catholics support child molesting? No, of course not.

    But the institution of the Catholic church DOES, in fact, support child molesting. They defend their abuser priests in court (with money from the collection plate) and in the press (see above).

    There are literally hundreds of stories like this. The church knowing what was going on, moving the priests around, protecting them, hiding them, covering up their crimes and even threatening their victims.

    Sadly, you CAN judge he whole. Because no matter how much some would like to believe this, it was NOT just "a few" who did it. They're all guilty. Because they all knew it was going on.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

    Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

    I don't keep up on religious news at all


    I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
    I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
    that seems so wrong to me as well.

    I'm surprised this priest still breathes
    if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
    he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.
  • pandora wrote:
    are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

    Yes. It's out of control. Because the church refuses to really acknowledge that it's happening.
    Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

    No. Not until they get caught.
    I don't keep up on religious news at all

    And that's the problem. People just don't care.
    I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
    I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
    that seems so wrong to me as well.

    Back then? It's happening right now.

    Don't believe me? Think I'm exaggerating?

    Try to make it even half-way down this page...

    JoeMyGod's "This week in Holy Crimes."
    if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
    he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.

    Vatican City?
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

    Yes. It's out of control. Because the church refuses to really acknowledge that it's happening.
    Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

    No. Not until they get caught.
    I don't keep up on religious news at all

    And that's the problem. People just don't care.
    I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
    I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
    that seems so wrong to me as well.

    Back then? It's happening right now.

    Don't believe me? Think I'm exaggerating?

    Try to make it even half-way down this page...

    JoeMyGod's "This week in Holy Crimes."
    if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
    he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.

    Vatican City?
    I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

    I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
    there

    Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

    If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
    and all the laws suits etc.
    why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
    that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

    I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

    I guess evil finds a way
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtCv_Lla ... re=related

    Foward to the 5 minutes mark, thats what i would do.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited August 2011
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

    I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
    there

    Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

    If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
    and all the laws suits etc.
    why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
    that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

    I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

    I guess evil finds a way
    Well....this is where 'faith' becomes an issue to me.
    If people put 'faith' in the bible, the teachings of christ (or whichever deity/prophet/folk tale they choose), the church, and it's followers....should they not trust their leaders? If you are going to live your life by the words in the good book (which no one does), and you feel that a priest is a holy person you would aspire to be like....is it unreasonable to say that you kinda HAVE to trust a priest with your kids? I mean...If you have blind faith (which, rag on me all you want, anyone who BELIEVES in an organized religion has), would you not feel that a priest is nearly beyond reproach?

    It bothers me to see the parents questioned in this situation, from a standpoint of 'where were they when the abuse occured'....we should be questioning their 'faith' IMO...because THAT, combined with the ol' famous catholic sexual repression, and lack of accountability, is what allowed these abuses to happen....not a lack of awareness, or straight-up bad parenting. If it was a relative committing these crimes, would you be questioning the parents? Or would you be commenting on the betrayal by someone the family felt they could trust? There is ZERO excuse for the Catholic church's protection of these people, and I find it a bit distasteful to try to deflect blame back to the parents....
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

    I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
    there

    Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

    If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
    and all the laws suits etc.
    why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
    that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

    I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

    I guess evil finds a way
    try googling Survivor's Network for those Abused by Priests".

    there used to be good info relating to the the US on there.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

    I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
    there

    Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

    If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
    and all the laws suits etc.
    why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
    that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

    I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

    I guess evil finds a way
    try googling Survivor's Network for those Abused by Priests".

    there used to be good info relating to the the US on there.
    hey thanks I'll check it out :D
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.


    there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.
  • paysonitespaysonites The Rim Country Posts: 1,150
    For one I am sick and tired of the media attacking the Catholic Church. Molestation happens in all religions. The media has always attacked all aspects of the Catholic religion. Yes I was/am Catholic with a very strong deep faith that is being fueled by none other than myself. Numerous reasons involved here but their has been three different priests from my past who have been found guilty of that or other crimes. There are also priests that are being attacked who are good. Meaning it is very easy for somebody down on there luck to jump on the bandwagon and sue the church to have a better life. I believe with the times and the serious desperation of some this is not a completely unfathomable scenario. For two unfortunately I do believe there are a lot of sickos that enter the seminary with the idea of taking part in a crime of that nature at some point in there priesthood. The best that one can do is to always make sure there are plenty of adults around the children at any event in a church. Better yet volunteer. Not only can you become more active but you can keep an eye on your own children.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

    there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.
    ...
    I understand there IS good... but it's the Church... as an institution, not the actual religion itself.
    These molestations/rapes didn't just start happening... we've been hearing about them for decades now (for all we know, its been happening for centuries). And the churches' Vice Presidents and managers (i.e. Bishops and Cardinals) have been burying them by calling the accusers liars... and people freely take the Churches view.
    If this were a company, such as General Motors or Monsanto, or a government would we automatically side with the corporation/government? Or would we question their response?
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Cosmo wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

    there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.
    ...
    I understand there IS good... but it's the Church... as an institution, not the actual religion itself.
    These molestations/rapes didn't just start happening... we've been hearing about them for decades now (for all we know, its been happening for centuries). And the churches' Vice Presidents and managers (i.e. Bishops and Cardinals) have been burying them by calling the accusers liars... and people freely take the Churches view.
    If this were a company, such as General Motors or Monsanto, or a government would we automatically side with the corporation/government? Or would we question their response?


    ya, sadly i agree.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Sexual deviants will all have to answer for their sins. I read that porn use was linked to sexual assault.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Sexual deviants will all have to answer for their sins. I read that porn use was linked to sexual assault.
    What about those that protected these fuckheads?
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  • Sexual deviants will all have to answer for their sins. I read that porn use was linked to sexual assault.


    Actually... You may have read that wrong.

    Porn use IS linked to sexual assault and every single study shows that porn use LOWERS sexual crimes.

    It's the sexually repressed priests who do the most molesting and the kids who are taught that sex is bad who all get knocked up at 16.
  • paysonites wrote:
    For one I am sick and tired of the media attacking the Catholic Church. Molestation happens in all religions.

    And I am sick of Catholics defending the culture of child rape that they support.

    I'll make you a deal.. Throw your Nazi, pedophile-loving pope into prison where he belongs, stop giving money to protect men who rape kids, attack women, attack my marriage and family and actually read that bible you use as a weapon and I'll stop pointing out that an abundance of your catholic priests rape kids and your pope is a Nazi.

    Deal?
  • ClaireackClaireack Posts: 13,561
    I was brought up a Catholic.

    Peadophilia is not the only crime perpetrated by the catholic church against children, just look at what the nuns have done in childrens homes.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ma ... use-claims

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -past.html

    Due to problems within my own 'catholic' family whilst growing up I came to the conclusion early on that a religion where you can do something really terrible, go confess, then be forgiven and expect entry into a so called 'heaven' is a load of crap.

    I know not everyone in the catholic church is bad, and I'm just speaking for myself and don't expect anyone to agree with me. It's just not a religion I am very fond of and I have read a lot that has reinforced my opinions.
  • paysonites wrote:
    . Molestation happens in all religions.

    Sorry, this has been bugging me all night.

    First... It kinda sounds like you're saying it's not a big deal that kids are molested because everyone does it.

    Second.. I haven't heard of a huge, systematic and generational culture of molestation by Buddhist monks, Wiccan Priests or shaman.

    Most of all, if you're tired of heaing about it... What have you done to stop it? Because it almost sounds like you just want people to stop talking about it not not actually do anything to stop the molestation.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

    Because government is mandatory. Church is not.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I feel it is up to parents to protect their children.

    Through this discussion I have asked... where are the parents?
    It really comes down to their responsibility.

    Molestation is a known occurrence, a threat wherever there are children.
    The sad truth there are pedophiles everywhere... waiting for an opportunity.

    We know they exist in other types of organizations, this has been publicized.
    Heck you might have one in extended family, a family friend, a music teacher, a coach etc.

    Parents must be aware and beware.

    Good communication, educating our children
    and empowering them is the way to stop this kind of evil.

    As far as the church not taking as much responsibility as people want,
    I'm sure it comes down to money, lawsuits, it seems it's all about the money, as always.
    Money is power, they need to remain powerful, they need to keep the money.
    Is this right, no of course not, but it certainly seems to be the name of the game
    absolutely everywhere.
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