26 Suicides Blamed On Pedophile Catholic Priests in Oz

Prince Of Dorkness

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6106928687

Even though 26 suicides have been attributed to the actions of pedophile priests such as Father Robert Best, local Catholic officials in Australia say that no inquiry is needed into the deaths. All of the suicides occurred at schools where Best taught. He has pleaded guilty to dozens of counts of child molestation.

Here's a picture of the head child molester Robert Best...



"I think we've learnt a lot of things about what is appropriate behaviour and what's not appropriate behaviour," Bishop Connors said. "I think people are very well informed nowadays as to what's inappropriate approaches from a male." While conceding the abuse of children was wrong, he said that in the past "it had not always been clear to everyone what was appropriate and inappropriate behaviour."

You mean to tell me that Catholic Priests need to have it explained to them clearly that "it's not appropriate to fuck the altar boys?"

ComeToTX

it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.

polaris_x

ComeToTX wrote:

it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.

agree

:(

BLACK35

ComeToTX wrote:

it amazes me that people can support something that turns a blind eye to these massive, disgusting issues.

agreed +1

gimmesometruth27

add another 26 to the death toll of the catholic church...sad...

pandora

There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.

keeponrockin

pandora wrote:

There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.

I think as an organization, the Catholic Church can most certainly be blamed. If they brought the priests to justice and were 100% open with those investigating, then I'd agree with you, however, they knew what was happening yet did nothing to stop it.

ComeToTX

pandora wrote:

There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.

agree, but there are hundreds of thousands of molestation claims in the catholic church that have been ignored and covered up for years and years. when the head of the church is involved in the cover up it can't be blamed on just a few.

not to mention their historical hatred of women and gays...

Prince Of Dorkness

pandora wrote:

There are bad people everywhere can't judge a whole for a few.

I would agree with you except the Catholic church, from the Bishop Conners in this story (who said he screwed the kids because nobody told him not to) all the way up to the Pope (who has knowingly protected pedophile priest from prosecution) support this behaviour.

Do ALL Catholics support child molesting? No, of course not.

But the institution of the Catholic church DOES, in fact, support child molesting. They defend their abuser priests in court (with money from the collection plate) and in the press (see above).

There are literally hundreds of stories like this. The church knowing what was going on, moving the priests around, protecting them, hiding them, covering up their crimes and even threatening their victims.

Sadly, you CAN judge he whole. Because no matter how much some would like to believe this, it was NOT just "a few" who did it. They're all guilty. Because they all knew it was going on.

pandora

are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

I don't keep up on religious news at all


I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
that seems so wrong to me as well.

I'm surprised this priest still breathes
if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.

Prince Of Dorkness

pandora wrote:

are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

Yes. It's out of control. Because the church refuses to really acknowledge that it's happening.

Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

No. Not until they get caught.

I don't keep up on religious news at all

And that's the problem. People just don't care.

I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
that seems so wrong to me as well.

Back then? It's happening right now.

Don't believe me? Think I'm exaggerating?

Try to make it even half-way down this page...

JoeMyGod's "This week in Holy Crimes."

if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.

Vatican City?

pandora

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

pandora wrote:

are they still occurring .... is molestation rampant in the Catholic Church?

Yes. It's out of control. Because the church refuses to really acknowledge that it's happening.

Have they addressed this injustice as a whole and removed the threat?

No. Not until they get caught.

I don't keep up on religious news at all

And that's the problem. People just don't care.

I aways wonder where the parents were through all this.
I guess back then people blindly trusted, not just the children but the adults too,
that seems so wrong to me as well.

Back then? It's happening right now.

Don't believe me? Think I'm exaggerating?

Try to make it even half-way down this page...

JoeMyGod's "This week in Holy Crimes."

if it were my kid who took his life because of being sexually abused by this man...
he would be dead.... zippo... gone to where the evil goes.

Vatican City?

I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
there

Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
and all the laws suits etc.
why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

I guess evil finds a way

BinauralJam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtCv_Lla ... re=related

Foward to the 5 minutes mark, thats what i would do.

Drowned Out

pandora wrote:

I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
there

Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
and all the laws suits etc.
why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

I guess evil finds a way

Well....this is where 'faith' becomes an issue to me.
If people put 'faith' in the bible, the teachings of christ (or whichever deity/prophet/folk tale they choose), the church, and it's followers....should they not trust their leaders? If you are going to live your life by the words in the good book (which no one does), and you feel that a priest is a holy person you would aspire to be like....is it unreasonable to say that you kinda HAVE to trust a priest with your kids? I mean...If you have blind faith (which, rag on me all you want, anyone who BELIEVES in an organized religion has), would you not feel that a priest is nearly beyond reproach?

It bothers me to see the parents questioned in this situation, from a standpoint of 'where were they when the abuse occured'....we should be questioning their 'faith' IMO...because THAT, combined with the ol' famous catholic sexual repression, and lack of accountability, is what allowed these abuses to happen....not a lack of awareness, or straight-up bad parenting. If it was a relative committing these crimes, would you be questioning the parents? Or would you be commenting on the betrayal by someone the family felt they could trust? There is ZERO excuse for the Catholic church's protection of these people, and I find it a bit distasteful to try to deflect blame back to the parents....

gimmesometruth27

pandora wrote:

I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
there

Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
and all the laws suits etc.
why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

I guess evil finds a way

try googling Survivor's Network for those Abused by Priests".

there used to be good info relating to the the US on there.

pandora

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

pandora wrote:

I wonder what the practicing Catholics think about this? Perhaps you are or were?

I did google and most that came up were European countries and the abuse problem
there

Is it still a USA problem? I sure don't hear it on the evening news the little I watch.

If it has been publicized so much and dozens of ranking officials let go from the church
and all the laws suits etc.
why wouldn't the parents of these children that are still being abused be more aware?
that seems remarkable to me.... protect your child!

I remember the scandal with the boy scouts too and it being covered up and the suits that developed

I guess evil finds a way

try googling Survivor's Network for those Abused by Priests".

there used to be good info relating to the the US on there.

hey thanks I'll check it out

Cosmo

Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

BinauralJam

Cosmo wrote:

Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.

paysonites

For one I am sick and tired of the media attacking the Catholic Church. Molestation happens in all religions. The media has always attacked all aspects of the Catholic religion. Yes I was/am Catholic with a very strong deep faith that is being fueled by none other than myself. Numerous reasons involved here but their has been three different priests from my past who have been found guilty of that or other crimes. There are also priests that are being attacked who are good. Meaning it is very easy for somebody down on there luck to jump on the bandwagon and sue the church to have a better life. I believe with the times and the serious desperation of some this is not a completely unfathomable scenario. For two unfortunately I do believe there are a lot of sickos that enter the seminary with the idea of taking part in a crime of that nature at some point in there priesthood. The best that one can do is to always make sure there are plenty of adults around the children at any event in a church. Better yet volunteer. Not only can you become more active but you can keep an eye on your own children.

Cosmo

BinauralJam wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.

...
I understand there IS good... but it's the Church... as an institution, not the actual religion itself.
These molestations/rapes didn't just start happening... we've been hearing about them for decades now (for all we know, its been happening for centuries). And the churches' Vice Presidents and managers (i.e. Bishops and Cardinals) have been burying them by calling the accusers liars... and people freely take the Churches view.
If this were a company, such as General Motors or Monsanto, or a government would we automatically side with the corporation/government? Or would we question their response?

BinauralJam

Cosmo wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Why do people distrust government... yet, let giant organized churches have unwavering full trust? The Catholic Church is a giant corporation that operates like a government with the Pope as the President/CEO for life.

there is a good side, i really enjoyed being Catholic until i was 12, ofcourse i was never left alone with a preist.

...
I understand there IS good... but it's the Church... as an institution, not the actual religion itself.
These molestations/rapes didn't just start happening... we've been hearing about them for decades now (for all we know, its been happening for centuries). And the churches' Vice Presidents and managers (i.e. Bishops and Cardinals) have been burying them by calling the accusers liars... and people freely take the Churches view.
If this were a company, such as General Motors or Monsanto, or a government would we automatically side with the corporation/government? Or would we question their response?

ya, sadly i agree.