I love how minority groups (and supporters) all claim to be all about equality, yet complain when another group wants to do something that they are doing (parades/months/TV), I thought minority groups wanted things to be equal?
I think the idea of a public parade based upon sexual preference/orientation is just not something that should take place - regardless of whatever preference/orientation is doing it. The whole concept just seems absurd to me.
Then don't go. The idea of tractor pulls, WWE fake wrestling, Nascar, broadway musicals, shopping at malls and going to church on sunday seems absurd to me.
So I don't go and let the people have their fun.
Not everyone is like you, you know.
I've been to countless gay parades and festivals over the years... Just a block party, a bit of a political slant to some, less in others... The last few years, I join my favorite bar, Eagle LA... I ride my motorcycle along side my best friends and husband and this year I had my brother on the back of my bike...
I love how minority groups (and supporters) all claim to be all about equality, yet complain when another group wants to do something that they are doing (parades/months/TV), I thought minority groups wanted things to be equal?
I don't see anyone here saying that. we just find it funny that people don't believe that they already have that. I for one hope that 1 day we won't have the reason to have "gay" pride parade but i do know that we will as people are still not equal.
you must admit that things are not equal in our society.
I think the idea of a public parade based upon sexual preference/orientation is just not something that should take place - regardless of whatever preference/orientation is doing it. The whole concept just seems absurd to me.
Then don't go. The idea of tractor pulls, WWE fake wrestling, Nascar, broadway musicals, shopping at malls and going to church on sunday seems absurd to me.
So I don't go and let the people have their fun.
Not everyone is like you, you know.
I've been to countless gay parades and festivals over the years... Just a block party, a bit of a political slant to some, less in others... The last few years, I join my favorite bar, Eagle LA... I ride my motorcycle along side my best friends and husband and this year I had my brother on the back of my bike...
I think a lot of those same things are absurd as well and I don't go to them, but thanks for the advice. But...I do not mind that they take place.
The issue for me is the subject matter. Having a public parade based upon sex (note that I'm not singling out gay parades only here) is something that I do not think should take place....regardless of whether I want to go or not.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Whoa there ... let's not get out of control with assertions like this!
Keep it Up and the Jason P Will Take You Down Know Your Role Boulevard, Which Is on the Corner of Jabroni Drive, and Check You Directly Into the Smackdown Hotel.
I love how minority groups (and supporters) all claim to be all about equality, yet complain when another group wants to do something that they are doing (parades/months/TV), I thought minority groups wanted things to be equal?
Oh spare me.
Heterosexual pride day isn't straight people yearning to be equal, it's just a bunch of passive-aggressive bullies trying to take juvenile stabs at the gay community in brazil where gay murders aren't even considered surprising.
Whoa there ... let's not get out of control with assertions like this!
Keep it Up and the Jason P Will Take You Down Know Your Role Boulevard, Which Is on the Corner of Jabroni Drive, and Check You Directly Into the Smackdown Hotel.
I think a lot of those same things are absurd as well and I don't go to them, but thanks for the advice. But...I do not mind that they take place.
The issue for me is the subject matter. Having a public parade based upon sex (note that I'm not singling out gay parades only here) is something that I do not think should take place....regardless of whether I want to go or not.
What makes you think the parade is based on sex?
Nobody has sex in a gay pride parade. This year, we were ahead of the Gay Fathers contingent... Just men with their kids. There are gay swing bands, gay soccer teams, gay christian groups and yes, my contingent of gay motorcycle riders.
I'm kind of surprised people still use the term sexual "preference".
i know. why would someone actually choose or prefer to be a part of one of the most ostracized, most picked on, and most judged groups on the planet? i mean we have groups claiming and preaching to their church that god hates them.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I love how minority groups (and supporters) all claim to be all about equality, yet complain when another group wants to do something that they are doing (parades/months/TV), I thought minority groups wanted things to be equal?
Oh spare me.
Heterosexual pride day isn't straight people yearning to be equal, it's just a bunch of passive-aggressive bullies trying to take juvenile stabs at the gay community in brazil where gay murders aren't even considered surprising.
Oh spare me.
You don't know everyones agenda at a heterosexual pride day, so quit generalizing.
Just like I doubt people ALL people at gay pride are about equality.
SO again, why do you care what a group is doing, if you claim all you want is equality?
Oh spare me.
You don't know everyones agenda at a heterosexual pride day, so quit generalizing.
It's quite clear what the agenda is. Playing dumb doesnt suit you.
Just like I doubt people ALL people at gay pride are about equality.
Like I'd said, most of pride day, especially in big cities, is just a big block party... For fun and for everyone. Even you.
SO again, why do you care what a group is doing, if you claim all you want is equality?
Tell you what... You give me every right you have... All those protections and perks and responsibilities... And I'll help you organize a nice parade and never mention it again.
Even the "supporters" say this is a "satire." and in a country where a gay person is killed for being gay every 36 hours, maybe the gay community of brazil isnt in the mood to be satirized.
I think a lot of those same things are absurd as well and I don't go to them, but thanks for the advice. But...I do not mind that they take place.
The issue for me is the subject matter. Having a public parade based upon sex (note that I'm not singling out gay parades only here) is something that I do not think should take place....regardless of whether I want to go or not.
What makes you think the parade is based on sex?
Nobody has sex in a gay pride parade. This year, we were ahead of the Gay Fathers contingent... Just men with their kids. There are gay swing bands, gay soccer teams, gay christian groups and yes, my contingent of gay motorcycle riders.
Nobody is having sex.
While i am on your side here from my personal experience there is a sense of sex and sexuality in the parades. (which is not a bad thing either) i do know people who have had sex at gay pride as there is sex at mardi grad. I do agree with you that there is more than just people having sex and that most the time its the media that shows only one aspect of the pride parades.
While i am on your side here from my personal experience there is a sense of sex and sexuality in the parades. (which is not a bad thing either) i do know people who have had sex at gay pride as there is sex at mardi grad. I do agree with you that there is more than just people having sex and that most the time its the media that shows only one aspect of the pride parades.
Oh for sure there's an open sexuality and a sense of sexual liberation to a pride parade... And I'm sure that someone's getting laid behind Something. But that doesn't mean the parade itself is about sex.
While i am on your side here from my personal experience there is a sense of sex and sexuality in the parades. (which is not a bad thing either) i do know people who have had sex at gay pride as there is sex at mardi grad. I do agree with you that there is more than just people having sex and that most the time its the media that shows only one aspect of the pride parades.
Oh for sure there's an open sexuality and a sense of sexual liberation to a pride parade... And I'm sure that someone's getting laid behind Something. But that doesn't mean the parade itself is about sex.
completely agree. was just disagreeing with your "there is no sex" comment
like i said before, i find that sadly that is what the media picks up on and therefore makes people who don't know anything about the gay community think that this is just an orgy. most people don't know the history involved in the gay parades. i admit that i was one of those people until i learned more by meeting more and more older gay people who educated me.
completely agree. was just disagreeing with your "there is no sex" comment
Ah... got it... I should say "the organizers don't sanction sex... but you get that many men with rock hard abs wearing lamé boxer briefs and being given free beer by Miller, Coors and Budweiser... Fish gonna swim, birds gonna fly, gay guys gonna shag.
completely agree. was just disagreeing with your "there is no sex" comment
Ah... got it... I should say "the organizers don't sanction sex... but you get that many men with rock hard abs wearing lamé boxer briefs and being given free beer by Miller, Coors and Budweiser... Fish gonna swim, birds gonna fly, gay guys gonna shag.
I think a lot of those same things are absurd as well and I don't go to them, but thanks for the advice. But...I do not mind that they take place.
The issue for me is the subject matter. Having a public parade based upon sex (note that I'm not singling out gay parades only here) is something that I do not think should take place....regardless of whether I want to go or not.
What makes you think the parade is based on sex?
Nobody has sex in a gay pride parade. This year, we were ahead of the Gay Fathers contingent... Just men with their kids. There are gay swing bands, gay soccer teams, gay christian groups and yes, my contingent of gay motorcycle riders.
Nobody is having sex.
Hmmm...did I say that they were having sex? Don't think so.
I said the parade was based upon sex and that's what it is.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I did a summer internship in San Francisco and was advised I had to go check out the gay pride parade before heading back to the Midwest .... holy shitballs, batman! I saw things you can't un-see.
It was very festive and friendly but coming from a small farming community, it was the culture-shock equivalent of being dropped off in the middle of Red Square during the Cold War.
Yes, what defines my community is our sexual orientation but that's not sex. If it IS, then a wedding procession is ALSO about "sex."
I disagree. A wedding is about a marriage which is a lot more than just sex.
I think that's his whole point.
Who I have sex with, along with when, or even if, are important to who I am. But they are only part of who I am.
That holds true for everyone, gay or straight. But lots of people assume that for gays, sex is some all-encompassing activity, as if nothing else could define their sense of self.
It's equally inaccurate to think that you can learn everything about gays that there is to know by witnessing a gay pride parade. Some things will be outrageous, some will be celebratory. But it hardly gives you the total picture of the gay community. For every gay that you see at the parade there will many more who stayed at home to work in their yard, cook on the grill, watch a game, go to a movie, shop for groceries, and dozens of ordinary things that people do on a Saturday afternoon.
Yes, what defines my community is our sexual orientation but that's not sex. If it IS, then a wedding procession is ALSO about "sex."
I disagree. A wedding is about a marriage which is a lot more than just sex.
actually a wedding is just a celebration of people expressing their love for each other.
Yes, it is. And pride day is about showing pride in ourselves, our families, our communities and how even in the face of hate, death and oppression, we can still be fun-loving and altruistic.
[That holds true for everyone, gay or straight. But lots of people assume that for gays, sex is some all-encompassing activity, as if nothing else could define their sense of self.
Well, speaking out of my ass, and being a guy, i know how we feel about sex, so if there was two of us maybe it would be more defining to male gay couples than to female gay couples, But that's just one of my theory's.
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What? I've been to New Orleans. My favorite resort is in Key West.
Then don't go. The idea of tractor pulls, WWE fake wrestling, Nascar, broadway musicals, shopping at malls and going to church on sunday seems absurd to me.
So I don't go and let the people have their fun.
Not everyone is like you, you know.
I've been to countless gay parades and festivals over the years... Just a block party, a bit of a political slant to some, less in others... The last few years, I join my favorite bar, Eagle LA... I ride my motorcycle along side my best friends and husband and this year I had my brother on the back of my bike...
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By the way... See if you can guess which one of those guys is my husband...
I don't see anyone here saying that. we just find it funny that people don't believe that they already have that. I for one hope that 1 day we won't have the reason to have "gay" pride parade but i do know that we will as people are still not equal.
you must admit that things are not equal in our society.
I think a lot of those same things are absurd as well and I don't go to them, but thanks for the advice. But...I do not mind that they take place.
The issue for me is the subject matter. Having a public parade based upon sex (note that I'm not singling out gay parades only here) is something that I do not think should take place....regardless of whether I want to go or not.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Keep it Up and the Jason P Will Take You Down Know Your Role Boulevard, Which Is on the Corner of Jabroni Drive, and Check You Directly Into the Smackdown Hotel.
Oh spare me.
Heterosexual pride day isn't straight people yearning to be equal, it's just a bunch of passive-aggressive bullies trying to take juvenile stabs at the gay community in brazil where gay murders aren't even considered surprising.
I. Would like. To see. You try.
:twisted:
What makes you think the parade is based on sex?
Nobody has sex in a gay pride parade. This year, we were ahead of the Gay Fathers contingent... Just men with their kids. There are gay swing bands, gay soccer teams, gay christian groups and yes, my contingent of gay motorcycle riders.
Nobody is having sex.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Oh spare me.
You don't know everyones agenda at a heterosexual pride day, so quit generalizing.
Just like I doubt people ALL people at gay pride are about equality.
SO again, why do you care what a group is doing, if you claim all you want is equality?
It's quite clear what the agenda is. Playing dumb doesnt suit you.
Like I'd said, most of pride day, especially in big cities, is just a big block party... For fun and for everyone. Even you.
Tell you what... You give me every right you have... All those protections and perks and responsibilities... And I'll help you organize a nice parade and never mention it again.
Even the "supporters" say this is a "satire." and in a country where a gay person is killed for being gay every 36 hours, maybe the gay community of brazil isnt in the mood to be satirized.
While i am on your side here from my personal experience there is a sense of sex and sexuality in the parades. (which is not a bad thing either) i do know people who have had sex at gay pride as there is sex at mardi grad. I do agree with you that there is more than just people having sex and that most the time its the media that shows only one aspect of the pride parades.
Oh for sure there's an open sexuality and a sense of sexual liberation to a pride parade... And I'm sure that someone's getting laid behind Something. But that doesn't mean the parade itself is about sex.
completely agree. was just disagreeing with your "there is no sex" comment
like i said before, i find that sadly that is what the media picks up on and therefore makes people who don't know anything about the gay community think that this is just an orgy. most people don't know the history involved in the gay parades. i admit that i was one of those people until i learned more by meeting more and more older gay people who educated me.
Ah... got it... I should say "the organizers don't sanction sex... but you get that many men with rock hard abs wearing lamé boxer briefs and being given free beer by Miller, Coors and Budweiser... Fish gonna swim, birds gonna fly, gay guys gonna shag.
completely get that
Hmmm...did I say that they were having sex? Don't think so.
I said the parade was based upon sex and that's what it is.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
No. It's not, actually.
It's based on a community celebrating itself.
Yes, what defines my community is our sexual orientation but that's not sex. If it IS, then a wedding procession is ALSO about "sex."
I disagree. A wedding is about a marriage which is a lot more than just sex.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I think that's his whole point.
It was very festive and friendly but coming from a small farming community, it was the culture-shock equivalent of being dropped off in the middle of Red Square during the Cold War.
actually a wedding is just a celebration of people expressing their love for each other.
That holds true for everyone, gay or straight. But lots of people assume that for gays, sex is some all-encompassing activity, as if nothing else could define their sense of self.
It's equally inaccurate to think that you can learn everything about gays that there is to know by witnessing a gay pride parade. Some things will be outrageous, some will be celebratory. But it hardly gives you the total picture of the gay community. For every gay that you see at the parade there will many more who stayed at home to work in their yard, cook on the grill, watch a game, go to a movie, shop for groceries, and dozens of ordinary things that people do on a Saturday afternoon.
And pride day is about love, community spirit, mutual respect, standing up for yourself and your family and refusing to cower in the face of hatred.
Which is a lot more than just sex, too.
you should come to a pride day some time and not just believe the absurd slant the TV news puts on it.
Yes, it is. And pride day is about showing pride in ourselves, our families, our communities and how even in the face of hate, death and oppression, we can still be fun-loving and altruistic.
Well, speaking out of my ass, and being a guy, i know how we feel about sex, so if there was two of us maybe it would be more defining to male gay couples than to female gay couples, But that's just one of my theory's.
this is my husband.
And this is me and my brother. For the record, we do not have sex.