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i think i'm an idiot!!!! Seriously..

PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
edited July 2008 in The Porch
I have been a fan of Pearl Jam since 1992, but tonight was the first time I saw the original "Jeremy" video. I never even knew it existed. I hate to even admit it :) but I had to. How pathetic? :D 16 yrs. later. I still can't believe it. I think I'm about to hear some s**t.
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  • alexersalexers Posts: 492
    I've never seen it either. Of course, I was 2 years old when Jeremy came out but I mean... still. :)
  • mnicole22mnicole22 Posts: 417
    I've never seen it either. I was a country girl up until 1998, which meant no TV only radio....and thank god for that.
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Only if MTV/Vh1 still plays music video, eh? ;)

    Alternative Nation was the last good music show, I think it ended like '96 I was about 14.
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  • jdub3001jdub3001 Posts: 194
    I never understood why that video was so 'great' to begin with. It was good, but nothing earth shattering. I guess at the time the video market was probably flooded with much crappier vids, so in comparison, it was really ground-breaking.

    I always liked the DTE video best. Now that's a kick ass piece of art!
  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    No I mean I didn't know there was a "Jeremy" video that was done before the Mtv Jeremy video that was never released.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,933
    jdub3001 wrote:
    I never understood why that video was so 'great' to begin with. It was good, but nothing earth shattering. I guess at the time the video market was probably flooded with much crappier vids, so in comparison, it was really ground-breaking.

    I always liked the DTE video best. Now that's a kick ass piece of art!

    I prefer Do the Evolution to it as well but dude.....Jeremy is awesome.


    the unreleased video that the original poster is talking about:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNO6pAJBCs4

    the uncensored version of the real video (Jeremy puts the gun in his mouth)

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCS_-DshXek
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    The problem with this video is it just shows everything described in the lyrics... I like videos that expand on the idea.

    Actually, I hate videos in general, but I tend to like the latter more than the former.

    But the Do The Evolution video is awesome.
  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    It is amazing though that you have been a fan since 92 and never knew it existed. Its kind of funny. Sorry.

    Ya, it is pretty funny and I guess that's why I had to fess up :)
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    gotcha


    Sorry that earlier post was meant for LongRd. not sure if they knew what i was talkin' about.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,933
    _outlaw wrote:
    The problem with this video is it just shows everything described in the lyrics... I like videos that expand on the idea.


    I disagree. From the lyrics, you can tell that Jeremy is picked on. But without the video, the line "Jeremy spoke in class today" is pretty vague. You could interpret that Jeremy "speaking in class" is him fighting back...rather than killing himself. Nothing else in the lyrics reference suicide.
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  • PJBuckeyePJBuckeye Posts: 1,102
    jdub3001 wrote:
    I never understood why that video was so 'great' to begin with. It was good, but nothing earth shattering. I guess at the time the video market was probably flooded with much crappier vids, so in comparison, it was really ground-breaking.

    I always liked the DTE video best. Now that's a kick ass piece of art!

    Watch VH1 Classic, then you will see why it is so great. Also, DTE is PJ's best video by far.

    BTW, does nybody find the Oceans video kinda homosexual? Of course, "not that there is anything wrong with that"
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  • PJBuckeyePJBuckeye Posts: 1,102
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    Agreed. The DTE vid kicks ass! Todd McFarlane is amazing. Did you ever see the animation series of Spawn that used to be on HBO. He created that as well. Always enjoyed it.

    Wouldn't some PJ McFarlane figures kick ass.
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  • Left PorchLeft Porch Posts: 846
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I disagree. From the lyrics, you can tell that Jeremy is picked on. But without the video, the line "Jeremy spoke in class today" is pretty vague. You could interpret that Jeremy "speaking in class" is him fighting back...rather than killing himself. Nothing else in the lyrics reference suicide.


    I'm with you, the video tells the whole story of what the song is about. It's very dark, very powerful and fits the mood of the song perfectly.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,933
    PJBuckeye wrote:
    BTW, does nybody find the Oceans video kinda homosexual? Of course, "not that there is anything wrong with that"

    totally
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I prefer Do the Evolution to it as well but dude.....Jeremy is awesome.


    the unreleased video that the original poster is talking about:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNO6pAJBCs4

    the uncensored version of the real video (Jeremy puts the gun in his mouth)

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCS_-DshXek


    Thanx for posting them.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,933
    PearlJen401 wrote:
    Thanx for posting them.

    you're welcome. I assumed that maybe not everyone has seen them.
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    it's ok. you're still a pj fan......and that roxxxxxxx!

    took guts to post that. found it interesting. so thanks.
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  • Left PorchLeft Porch Posts: 846
    PJBuckeye wrote:

    BTW, does nybody find the Oceans video kinda homosexual? Of course, "not that there is anything wrong with that"


    Yes. Looks like a commercial for a gay cruise, like you said though nothing wrong with that.
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    it's ok. you're still a pj fan......and that roxxxxxxx!

    took guts to post that. found it interesting. so thanks.


    I was hesitant to tell on myself. But I'm just in shock that I didn't know about this. I expected to hear some crap about it. Well deserved crap in my opinion :D I stumbled upon it trying to explain the original video and the message of the song to my 2 young sons.
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,902
    never knew nor saw it before this post. Looks like all the other ten videos, the pellington version is wayyyy better. The strobe with Ed wailing is the best!


    Can I also add Jeremy is still a kickass studio song!

    thanks for the post, never knew in my 15 plus years either

    that uncut version is unreal never saw it either the gun part made me cry.

    so we go from wife beater wearing naked PJ to a pellington masterpeice!

    the magenta wolf
    the kid throwing the apple to the teacher
    Ed's brown Corduroy
    The still kids pointing at him
    Standing wrapped in the flag
    the class all doing the nazi salute!
    the kid screaming with the light in his face
    Ed pointing to his head with gun fingers

    this video was unreal with all the subtleties

    thank you never saw EITHER version Ed was so riveting with his expression in this video
  • jdub3001jdub3001 Posts: 194
    PearlJen401 wrote:
    No I mean I didn't know there was a "Jeremy" video that was done before the Mtv Jeremy video that was never released.

    Ahh, I had neither seen nor heard of that one. And here I thought I was a hard core PJ fan...
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    PearlJen401 wrote:
    Sorry that earlier post was meant for LongRd. not sure if they knew what i was talkin' about.
    oh, you meant the banned version or the band version.

    there was three versinos of Jeremy but only one was official.

    banned version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gskAeWgEExk

    band version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNO6pAJBCs4

    official version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMRTOZExfJA


    EDIT: oops I see someone already posted the different versions. :p
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  • Daisy_BuchananDaisy_Buchanan Posts: 162
    jdub3001 wrote:
    Ahh, I had neither seen nor heard of that one. And here I thought I was a hard core PJ fan...

    Uhhh...I don't remember the 'heil Hitler' thing (I remember this video from alternative nation! Wut, you're ancient!) and was unaware I'd never seen an uncut version of Jeremy...thanks for posting!!
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    PearlJen401 wrote:
    I was hesitant to tell on myself. But I'm just in shock that I didn't know about this. I expected to hear some crap about it. Well deserved crap in my opinion :D I stumbled upon it trying to explain the original video and the message of the song to my 2 young sons.

    well, you're just lucky the 'meanies' aren't online now. because they can be harsh.
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    blondieblue227 wrote:
    well, you're just lucky the 'meanies' aren't online now. because they can be harsh.


    Ya, SO FAR, I haven't caught as much shit as I'd expected to. I have a bad habit of telling on myself.

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    LongRd. wrote:
    oh, you meant the banned version or the band version.

    there was three versinos of Jeremy but only one was official.

    banned version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gskAeWgEExk

    band version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNO6pAJBCs4

    official version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMRTOZExfJA


    EDIT: oops I see someone already posted the different versions. :p


    I meant the band version.
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    PearlJen401 wrote:
    Ya, SO FAR, I haven't caught as much shit as I'd expected to. I have a bad habit of telling on myself.

    I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
    WTF!? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THAT VERSION?! what kind of fan are you! youre nothing! youre pathetic! go back to creed and etcetera....

    is that good? sorry, i don't like to be mean so i dunno if i'm doing it as well as some of the other people on this board..

    i've actually never seen the banned version before today, i've heard of it before but whenever i tried to find it i'd always get the regular version everyone has seen.
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  • PearlJen401PearlJen401 Posts: 233
    washedinblack91 wrote:
    WTF!? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THAT VERSION?! what kind of fan are you! youre nothing! youre pathetic! go back to creed and etcetera....

    is that good? sorry, i don't like to be mean so i dunno if i'm doing it as well as some of the other people on this board..

    i've actually never seen the banned version before today, i've heard of it before but whenever i tried to find it i'd always get the regular version everyone has seen.[/quote

    LMAO!!!! Thank you, I needed that.

    But Creed---blah, I feel nauseous now
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  • jaboodeyjaboodey Rochester, NH Posts: 90
    I get so dizzy watching the original, I have to stop jumping on my bed.
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  • Ghost Of K.Ghost Of K. Posts: 170
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I disagree. From the lyrics, you can tell that Jeremy is picked on. But without the video, the line "Jeremy spoke in class today" is pretty vague. You could interpret that Jeremy "speaking in class" is him fighting back...rather than killing himself. Nothing else in the lyrics reference suicide.
    I understand certain members of the band did not want to do the video. What would your interpretation be if you had no visuals to call upon? I've got mine. I think of Stephen King's story Rage.
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