More evidence that record profits are not yielding US jobs..

inmytree

mikepegg44 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

we keep going in circles...

I agree, spending should be cut...I also think revenues should be raised...you don't and that's fine...if you think cutting program for the poors and disabled and elderly is the only way to go...so be it...I happen disagree...

and you mention the concept risk...yup, that's real...I guess it's risk to do business in this country were political leaders change from time to time, thus expectations on taxes change too....we'll that's the risk one takes I guess....I would hope they would understand that and factor that into there plans...to assume nothing will ever change with tax rates is kinda stupid if you ask me...

anyhoo, carry on...it looks like you'll get your spending cuts and no new revenues...happy times here we come...

What I said that raising revenue doesn't necessarily have to be tax increases. That is where we are really going in the biggest circles... getting the economy going can and will raise revenues much more than any tax increase will. And getting the economy going doesn't mean that the government has to spend in something like a stimulus.

and wanting to change social security to make it more economically viable does NOT mean cutting benefits for the disabled, elderly, or anyone else. Means testing and a raise in the retirement age would do a lot. Doesn't anyone think it is funny that the social security trust fund supposedly has trillions but yet if the government doesn't raise the debt limit they will not be able to cut the checks? Doesn't anyone find that strange? How is that possible?

"getting the economy going"...sounds great...let's do that...sound super easy, too...

and raising the retirement ageis cutting benefits...

anyway, you're going to get your wish...cuts without revenues...I'm sure the economy improve, you know, since social programs are cut...balanced budget and golden times ahead for all....

as for you query about SS...yeah, it's funny...

mikepegg44

inmytree wrote:

as for you query about SS...yeah, it's funny...

I am interested in what you find funny? It seems like something people should be mad about, but I cannot figure why no one is. I am actually surprised it hasn't been brought up in any national debate and I am confused as to why...I MUST be missing something...please someone, anyone tell me I am completely wrong about it and show me how...
and changing the retirement age is a necessity. as we have live longer and longer it is going to become more and more necessary to raise it. That isn't a cut...that isn't putting less money in the system...it shouldn't be called a cut. when I think cut I think slashed budget....I think less benefits is a cut and i don't think that is going to be the case.
I am not saying it is easy to get the economy going, but I don't think more taxes are going to do it...but I could be wrong...If they were solely going to use the new "revenue" to pay down the debt I would love it, but I have a hard time thinking it will be...

anyway, we could do this dance for days I think...

gimmesometruth27

how about we do away with the tax exempt status of churches then?

somebody is going to have to buck up to increase revenue.

tax the churches and then let them talk politics in the church.

Jason P

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

how about we do away with the tax exempt status of churches then?

somebody is going to have to buck up to increase revenue.

tax the churches and then let them talk politics in the church.

If you are willing to add the Breast Cancer Research Foundation, ACLU, Ducks Unlimited, and every other charitable organization that enjoys tax-exempt status, I'll have an honest discussion about it.

We all have to make sacrifices, right?