Machina 1 and Zeitgeist are two of my favourite albums of all time, not just SP.
dude, you totally get the idea!!
i think he is one of the best musicians ever!! did you read "blinking with fists"? it's AWESOME!!
his writing power and skill is something incredible, when he played "a song for a son" here in Argentina i can't help it and i almost cried, really something extraordinary.
did you have the chance to see them live?
the last time they were around here was in summer of 2000 at Summersault, when everyone knew they were splitting.
I'd love to see them live now, because Billy keeps playing obscure tracks and unreleased songs. I'd love to go to a show like that.
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But as I've learned more about him, he just likes to rile up audiences, it's his type of humour.
I've never really understood why he likes to do that. I appreciate his gift as a songwriter, but I don't understand his relationship with the audience.
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"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Siamese Dream is one of my all time favorite albums. I also like a lot of Pisces iscariot and Mellon collie but they really fell off after that in my opinion. I havent really listened to any of their newer stuff at all so maybe I'm missing out.
I actually enjoy Adore and Machina more than Mellon Collie. MC should have been pared down to one disc, with similar production to SD. A lot of those songs would've benefited from that huge sound. But as it stands I find it hard to get through 2 hours of music with so many iffy songs thrown in.
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I actually enjoy Adore and Machina more than Mellon Collie. MC should have been pared down to one disc, with similar production to SD. A lot of those songs would've benefited from that huge sound. But as it stands I find it hard to get through 2 hours of music with so many iffy songs thrown in.
As a teen in the 90's I was way more into SP than PJ but as I've gotten older it has switched. I still appreciate their music but don't like anything bought out since Melon Collie.
If you want an older fan's perspective...
Siamese Dream came out, and all I had heard was 'Today' on the TV in Australia. I didn't dig it. This would be late 1993, and I was however old (I was born in 1975). I was already fanatical about Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Mother Love Bone, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, and Ozzy, so I knew what I liked. The 1994 travelling Australian music festival, the Big Day Out, rolled through Adelaide, and my mates and I HAD to go and see Soundgarden and The Ramones. There was nothing else my friend J wanted to see when the Pumpkins were on, and he convinced me to go and see them. They did something that day that rarely happens to me: they turned me into an INSTANT FAN. I couldn't believe it. They had no onstage props, no magic lights...nothing. It was just aggressive, big-sounding, dynamic music. The setlist for most of those BDO shows have been lost in time, so I don't really know what they even played. Soundgarden were a disappointment. Not in comparison to anyone else, they were just a disappointment.
The next day, we went to town, and the stores were selling Gish and Siamese Dream separately. But you could buy both for the price of one. So I did. I never did dig Gish much. It kind of sounds the same-a very flat production (and years later, when the remaster came out, it sounded no different).
From that February 1994 performance, I was a huge fan. I got Mellon Collie the day it came out, and all the singles (they were all two part singles, with about 3 different b-sides on each one), and then I bought them all again in a boxed set called "The Aeroplane Flies High". My local indie record store, Bank Street records, whom I had a relationship with from collecting PJ, contacted me when the numbered, limited Mellon Collie triple 12" was released, which I promptly bought. What us collectors didn't know was that the 'limited to 5000' Mellon Collie vinyl was eventually re-released without a number on the cover. Fuckers. The Mellon Collie tour rolled through Australia, and the Adelaide performance was mind-blowing. I took my girlfriend (now my wife)-it was her first show-and her nickname from then on has been Darcy.
Cut to 1998, and the release of Adore. Under any other circumstances, it would have been a scratch-the-head moment for a Pumpkins fan, so different was the record. Pumpkins fans who kept an eye on the press, however, had a pretty good idea it was gonna be an oddball release-Billy had stated numerous times in the run up to its release the band were a bit lost without Jimmy. The vinyl of that, which came out pretty promptly as I recall, was magic for me: it was a double album, mixed in mono, and side 4 was blank. I'd never seen that before! The Adore tour rolled through Australia, but didn't come to Adelaide. The missus, myself, and J got tickets on the phone to the Melbourne show (remember buying tickets on the PHONE!?). It was a pretty different show, and one of the first shows I ever taped. (I think my recording is the only one in circulation. I taped with a Sony analogue tape recorder). In hindsight, the guts of Adore (the middle section) I think still stands up. The start and the end are a bit subpar.
Machina eventually was released, and I remember being really, really pissed off: the band didn't come to Australia for it. They did go to Japan though. I made some calls to some airlines: it was basically the same price to fly to Europe as it was to Japan, and Japan is a helluva lot closer to Oz than Europe is. That put the kabosh on that. I liked Machina, even if they released 2 videos at the same time for it. The vinyl release was beautiful, too, kinda silk-like tracing paper...a real work of art.
The Internet starting becoming bigger, mp3's were becoming more accessible, Billy got the shits up with his label, Virgin, for not letting him release his second double album, Machina 2: The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music, and it magically appeared one day on the Internet. With downloadable artwork! You can read the history of that elsewhere. Man, us Pumpkins fans were delighted. And it was free.
...and then. No more Pumpkins. It should have been left that way. I wanted to like Zeitgeist. Really, I did. I rang J when Billy said he was reviving the name, and J said: "it ain't gonna be the same. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. You can't recapture what we had in the early to late '90's". I didn't believe him. I should have. He was right.
My teenage years were spent obsessed with PJ, the Pumpkins, Soundgarden and all. The Pumpkins made great records, for a time: big, expansive, ambitious, huge, far-reaching records. Life changing records. Sure, some of them had some filler tracks, but so what? When you put out a record, and you put out more B-SIDES for said record, when you're that prolific, and you want people to hear as much as you've got, there's going to be some subpar tracks there. But, the Pumpkins upped the ante: they proved 'alternative' bands could much more than just '70's-sounding classic rock, or Punk/Indie inspired rock. They proved that ambition and the potential for failure, and setting yourself up for a potential fall (Billy was promoting Siamese Dream in interviews and was ALREADY talking about making the next record a double album) was OK. And they proved that being tied to an ascetic was bullshit. And they made some wonderful songs. Go and listen to an old b-side called 'Cherry' from one of the 1979 singles: they made b-sides that put some album tracks to shame. There's not a whole lot of bands that can say that.
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this board is full of SP/BC haters. To the point of ridiculousness. To hate a band because of the supposed personality of the main member is stupidity. I think a large part of Billy's public persona is a joke being played on the general public by him. Not to mention, the public perception of ANYONE in the public eye is only a small percentage of who that person actually is. Take Ed for example: he was pigeon holed into being an angry left-wing whiner. Was he? Maybe a bit. But do you think that's who he was 24/7? Absolutely not. Do you think all Angelina does is adopt African kids? Obviously not.
However, yes, he knows he's a good songwriter, and so what? Do you hate Kobe for knowing he's a good b-ball player? NO. Same thing.
Bottom line is Billy is a fantastic songwriter and a music industry visionary (whether you like the songs on Teargarden so far is irrelevant, the platform is new and exciting).
I thought he was a dick for quitting the music industry because of Britney and the Boy Bands, but then I figured out it wasn't them as competition, it was that the general music public didn't appreciate anything but hit singles. No one gave a shit about track 11 anymore. And that's what frustrated him, and I can relate. And that's why he's doing what he's doing. Love the songs or hate them, you HAVE LISTENED TO THEM. that's all he wants.
I actually enjoy Adore and Machina more than Mellon Collie. MC should have been pared down to one disc, with similar production to SD. A lot of those songs would've benefited from that huge sound. But as it stands I find it hard to get through 2 hours of music with so many iffy songs thrown in.
I agree with you, if MC would have been one disc it would have been amazing. There are some iffy songs but I think it's a fun album to listen to overall. Nothing of theirs compares to Siamese Dream, it's one of my top 5 favorite albums ever.
I actually enjoy Adore and Machina more than Mellon Collie. MC should have been pared down to one disc, with similar production to SD. A lot of those songs would've benefited from that huge sound. But as it stands I find it hard to get through 2 hours of music with so many iffy songs thrown in.
I agree with you, if MC would have been one disc it would have been amazing. There are some iffy songs but I think it's a fun album to listen to overall. Nothing of theirs compares to Siamese Dream, it's one of my top 5 favorite albums ever.
Nearly every band that has put out a double album has had the same accusation levelled at them: too much filler, your double record would be better as a single. BUT, in the case of Mellon Collie... those people are missing the point. Billy was saying in 1993 that his next album was going to be a double album. He set himself a challenge. In public. And he achieved it. For those of us old enough and who were interested enough back in the day, the point was this: as soon as Billy said that, the general opinion was this: double albums don't sell; they're throw-backs to '70's pretentiousness, and most bands who were big in what we called the 'alternative rock' world, were proving how punk and 'indie' they could be. Billy wanted to prove a point to himself: he wanted to prove that he could make an album that went against the grain of what was then current commercial thinking, and have it sell. And he did it. When assessing the relative merits or otherwise of Melon Collie..., you can base your thinking on purely the music as you feel it to be now, or you can place the record in the context of what its creator set out to do (as stated in interviews) and the time and cultural backdrop in which it was conceptualised, created, recorded and released. I think the record has more to offer when considered in relation to the latter.
On a more pragmatic level, for those who say it would be better as single record: which songs would you drop? And would they be the same as someone else's? I think a lot of people who say it would be a better single album would drop the songs at the end of disc 2 (say, tracks 10-14), but if you drop track 14, how do you end the album? Farewell and Goodnight, while not a cracking track on its own, is a beautiful way to end this particular record. We Only Come Out at Night, probably no-one's favourite, also makes a point on the album: that Billy can write and record some more left-of-centre oddball tracks. It skews disc 2 hard to the left, especially coming after a classic metal type track like X.Y.U. It all adds to the light and shade of the record, in a similar way to what Sweet Sweet and Luna did on Siamese Dream.
Each to their own, I guess. And I think if I hadn't followed the band so closely as events actually unfolded back in the '90's, I think I would agree with some of you here.
I guess it comes back to the same ol' question: should art be judged just as it is, or judged in the context of the time and place it was originally set in? The more closely you look, the bigger the questions become.
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Can't wait to see these guys again they killed it at terminal 5 last time
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The Smashing Pumpkins -- 2011 Tour Dates
10/05 - Los Angeles, CA @ Wiltern
10/07 - Oakland, CA @ Fox Theatre
10/08 - Las Vegas, NV @ Cosmopolitan
10/10 - Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre
10/13 - Milwaukee, WI @ Riverside Theatre
10/14 - Chicago, IL @ TBA
10/15 - Detroit, MI @ The Fillmore
10/17 - Washington, DC @ 9:30 Club
10/18 - New York, NY @ Terminal 5
10/19 - Providence, RI @ Lupo's
10/21 - Boston, MA @ Orpheum Theatre
10/22 - Philadelphia, PA @ Tower Theatre
Here's my Smashing Pumpkins story, when Siamese Dream came out I lived in Houston, I remember that the vinyl came out about 2 weeks before the CD, just like Vs. did also, we LOVED it, listened to it every day for weeks. Then they announce a show in Houston, GREAT, we buy tickets. The day of the show FINALLY comes, they play a pretty small venue, they come out and play Geek U.S.A. to start the show, they are just blowing the roof off of the place about 7 songs into the show in between songs Billy C asks people to please stop throwing things at and onto the stage or they will stop the show and not continue.
They play about 2 more songs and some A-Hole throws a shoe directly towards Billy C and hits him right in his face, we saw it happen and it was like in slow motion. Billy C stops the rest of the band in mid song, steps up to the mic and says, SORRY GUYS the show is over, I warned you and you didn't listen, he then points right at the guy (I told you it was a small venue) who threw the shoe and says, "you can thank that m-fer right there" he's the one that ruined it for everyone. So they played 9 or 10 AWESOME songs and left the stage, as the house lights came on an ANGRY mob of people started moving in on the guy who threw the shoe and we left before it got ugly.
That's the one and only time I saw one of my favorite bands, the person I went with was a HUGE Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam fan, he passed away in the winter of 1994 from a brain aneurysm, he was only about 32 at the time. Whenever I hear the Pumpkins I think of him, he was also a big Deadhead, I still see Pearl Jam quite a bit and think of him after GREAT shows like Cleveland 2010 and always think, man he would have LOVED that show.
you should stay and kill that fuc**r that ruinned the concert.. i would probably do that without even think about it and i'll be proud about doing it, at least a couple of punchs in his face until someone stops me..
Sorry to hear that from your friend, but it's beautifull how you remind him..
I got my hands on a radio broadcast of the 8/14/1993 Show from the Metro, Chicago a few days ago. Fucking incredible.
Sound is A+, and it's like Siamese Dream live. DEFINITELY worth having.
The Smashing Pumpkins-August 14, 1993 (also known as A La Mode Vol. 2)
Tracks: CD1: 1. Intro 2. Rocket 3. Quiet 4. Today 5. Rhinoceros 6. Geek USA 7. Soma 8. I Am One 9. Disarm 10. Spaceboy 11. Starla 12. Cherub Rock 13. Bury Me
CD2: 1. Hummer 2. Siva 3. Mayonaise 4. Drown 5. Silverfuck 6. Bye June
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I would like to say that the Pumpkins have some excellent B sides. How those didn't make album cuts, I don't know.
Yup, 2 songs in particular come to mind: "Ugly" and "Cherry", especially the latter. Billy eventually agreed in public, and said "Cherry" would have made it onto 'Melon Collie...' if the mix had been more to his satisfaction.
My Pearl Jam shows: 1 in 1995, 2 in 1998, 20 in 2003, 13 in 2006, 3 in 2007, 8 in 2008, 5 in 2009, 4 in 2010, 5 in 2012. EV: 8 in 2011, 1 in 2012. Brad: 1 in 1998, 1 in 2002.
I got my hands on a radio broadcast of the 8/14/1993 Show from the Metro, Chicago a few days ago. Fucking incredible.
Sound is A+, and it's like Siamese Dream live. DEFINITELY worth having.
The Smashing Pumpkins-August 14, 1993 (also known as A La Mode Vol. 2)
Tracks: CD1: 1. Intro 2. Rocket 3. Quiet 4. Today 5. Rhinoceros 6. Geek USA 7. Soma 8. I Am One 9. Disarm 10. Spaceboy 11. Starla 12. Cherub Rock 13. Bury Me
CD2: 1. Hummer 2. Siva 3. Mayonaise 4. Drown 5. Silverfuck 6. Bye June
Anyone else going to the show Tuesday at terminal 5. I'll be grabbing beers at the bar around the corner beforehand, can't remember the name but it's the closet bar to the venue.
Anyone else going to the show Tuesday at terminal 5. I'll be grabbing beers at the bar around the corner beforehand, can't remember the name but it's the closet bar to the venue.
I loved them back in the day,even although I always thought B.C was a tool.But when Mellon Collie was released I thought it was a pile of overblown guitar wankfest,hated it,still do,thought I was finished with them for good,but bought Adore and love that album.
They were a great band with Gish and Siamese Dream,both still stunning albums,I gave Mellon Collie away and never bought anything after Adore.
Shame that B.C's ego swept away a great band,who were fantastic live.
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The pumpkins are still great live, saw them play terminal 5 last time they're in town and the new band members are really good especially the kid on the drums.
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the last time they were around here was in summer of 2000 at Summersault, when everyone knew they were splitting.
I'd love to see them live now, because Billy keeps playing obscure tracks and unreleased songs. I'd love to go to a show like that.
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I've never really understood why he likes to do that. I appreciate his gift as a songwriter, but I don't understand his relationship with the audience.
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too bad you can't see him. but i'm sure you will and it's gonna be awesome!
cheer up!!
better songwritter than billy??
mmm.. would like to see that..
"Vinyl or not, you will need to pay someone to take RA of your hands" - Smile05
424, xxx
i think MCIS in 2cd's is great!!
Siamese Dream came out, and all I had heard was 'Today' on the TV in Australia. I didn't dig it. This would be late 1993, and I was however old (I was born in 1975). I was already fanatical about Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Mother Love Bone, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, and Ozzy, so I knew what I liked. The 1994 travelling Australian music festival, the Big Day Out, rolled through Adelaide, and my mates and I HAD to go and see Soundgarden and The Ramones. There was nothing else my friend J wanted to see when the Pumpkins were on, and he convinced me to go and see them. They did something that day that rarely happens to me: they turned me into an INSTANT FAN. I couldn't believe it. They had no onstage props, no magic lights...nothing. It was just aggressive, big-sounding, dynamic music. The setlist for most of those BDO shows have been lost in time, so I don't really know what they even played. Soundgarden were a disappointment. Not in comparison to anyone else, they were just a disappointment.
The next day, we went to town, and the stores were selling Gish and Siamese Dream separately. But you could buy both for the price of one. So I did. I never did dig Gish much. It kind of sounds the same-a very flat production (and years later, when the remaster came out, it sounded no different).
From that February 1994 performance, I was a huge fan. I got Mellon Collie the day it came out, and all the singles (they were all two part singles, with about 3 different b-sides on each one), and then I bought them all again in a boxed set called "The Aeroplane Flies High". My local indie record store, Bank Street records, whom I had a relationship with from collecting PJ, contacted me when the numbered, limited Mellon Collie triple 12" was released, which I promptly bought. What us collectors didn't know was that the 'limited to 5000' Mellon Collie vinyl was eventually re-released without a number on the cover. Fuckers. The Mellon Collie tour rolled through Australia, and the Adelaide performance was mind-blowing. I took my girlfriend (now my wife)-it was her first show-and her nickname from then on has been Darcy.
Cut to 1998, and the release of Adore. Under any other circumstances, it would have been a scratch-the-head moment for a Pumpkins fan, so different was the record. Pumpkins fans who kept an eye on the press, however, had a pretty good idea it was gonna be an oddball release-Billy had stated numerous times in the run up to its release the band were a bit lost without Jimmy. The vinyl of that, which came out pretty promptly as I recall, was magic for me: it was a double album, mixed in mono, and side 4 was blank. I'd never seen that before! The Adore tour rolled through Australia, but didn't come to Adelaide. The missus, myself, and J got tickets on the phone to the Melbourne show (remember buying tickets on the PHONE!?). It was a pretty different show, and one of the first shows I ever taped. (I think my recording is the only one in circulation. I taped with a Sony analogue tape recorder). In hindsight, the guts of Adore (the middle section) I think still stands up. The start and the end are a bit subpar.
Machina eventually was released, and I remember being really, really pissed off: the band didn't come to Australia for it. They did go to Japan though. I made some calls to some airlines: it was basically the same price to fly to Europe as it was to Japan, and Japan is a helluva lot closer to Oz than Europe is. That put the kabosh on that. I liked Machina, even if they released 2 videos at the same time for it. The vinyl release was beautiful, too, kinda silk-like tracing paper...a real work of art.
The Internet starting becoming bigger, mp3's were becoming more accessible, Billy got the shits up with his label, Virgin, for not letting him release his second double album, Machina 2: The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music, and it magically appeared one day on the Internet. With downloadable artwork! You can read the history of that elsewhere. Man, us Pumpkins fans were delighted. And it was free.
...and then. No more Pumpkins. It should have been left that way. I wanted to like Zeitgeist. Really, I did. I rang J when Billy said he was reviving the name, and J said: "it ain't gonna be the same. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. You can't recapture what we had in the early to late '90's". I didn't believe him. I should have. He was right.
My teenage years were spent obsessed with PJ, the Pumpkins, Soundgarden and all. The Pumpkins made great records, for a time: big, expansive, ambitious, huge, far-reaching records. Life changing records. Sure, some of them had some filler tracks, but so what? When you put out a record, and you put out more B-SIDES for said record, when you're that prolific, and you want people to hear as much as you've got, there's going to be some subpar tracks there. But, the Pumpkins upped the ante: they proved 'alternative' bands could much more than just '70's-sounding classic rock, or Punk/Indie inspired rock. They proved that ambition and the potential for failure, and setting yourself up for a potential fall (Billy was promoting Siamese Dream in interviews and was ALREADY talking about making the next record a double album) was OK. And they proved that being tied to an ascetic was bullshit. And they made some wonderful songs. Go and listen to an old b-side called 'Cherry' from one of the 1979 singles: they made b-sides that put some album tracks to shame. There's not a whole lot of bands that can say that.
couldn't have said it better myself
I agree with you, if MC would have been one disc it would have been amazing. There are some iffy songs but I think it's a fun album to listen to overall. Nothing of theirs compares to Siamese Dream, it's one of my top 5 favorite albums ever.
On a more pragmatic level, for those who say it would be better as single record: which songs would you drop? And would they be the same as someone else's? I think a lot of people who say it would be a better single album would drop the songs at the end of disc 2 (say, tracks 10-14), but if you drop track 14, how do you end the album? Farewell and Goodnight, while not a cracking track on its own, is a beautiful way to end this particular record. We Only Come Out at Night, probably no-one's favourite, also makes a point on the album: that Billy can write and record some more left-of-centre oddball tracks. It skews disc 2 hard to the left, especially coming after a classic metal type track like X.Y.U. It all adds to the light and shade of the record, in a similar way to what Sweet Sweet and Luna did on Siamese Dream.
Each to their own, I guess. And I think if I hadn't followed the band so closely as events actually unfolded back in the '90's, I think I would agree with some of you here.
I guess it comes back to the same ol' question: should art be judged just as it is, or judged in the context of the time and place it was originally set in? The more closely you look, the bigger the questions become.
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The Smashing Pumpkins -- 2011 Tour Dates
10/05 - Los Angeles, CA @ Wiltern
10/07 - Oakland, CA @ Fox Theatre
10/08 - Las Vegas, NV @ Cosmopolitan
10/10 - Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre
10/13 - Milwaukee, WI @ Riverside Theatre
10/14 - Chicago, IL @ TBA
10/15 - Detroit, MI @ The Fillmore
10/17 - Washington, DC @ 9:30 Club
10/18 - New York, NY @ Terminal 5
10/19 - Providence, RI @ Lupo's
10/21 - Boston, MA @ Orpheum Theatre
10/22 - Philadelphia, PA @ Tower Theatre
They play about 2 more songs and some A-Hole throws a shoe directly towards Billy C and hits him right in his face, we saw it happen and it was like in slow motion. Billy C stops the rest of the band in mid song, steps up to the mic and says, SORRY GUYS the show is over, I warned you and you didn't listen, he then points right at the guy (I told you it was a small venue) who threw the shoe and says, "you can thank that m-fer right there" he's the one that ruined it for everyone. So they played 9 or 10 AWESOME songs and left the stage, as the house lights came on an ANGRY mob of people started moving in on the guy who threw the shoe and we left before it got ugly.
That's the one and only time I saw one of my favorite bands, the person I went with was a HUGE Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam fan, he passed away in the winter of 1994 from a brain aneurysm, he was only about 32 at the time. Whenever I hear the Pumpkins I think of him, he was also a big Deadhead, I still see Pearl Jam quite a bit and think of him after GREAT shows like Cleveland 2010 and always think, man he would have LOVED that show.
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you should stay and kill that fuc**r that ruinned the concert.. i would probably do that without even think about it and i'll be proud about doing it, at least a couple of punchs in his face until someone stops me..
Sorry to hear that from your friend, but it's beautifull how you remind him..
Sound is A+, and it's like Siamese Dream live. DEFINITELY worth having.
The Smashing Pumpkins-August 14, 1993 (also known as A La Mode Vol. 2)
Tracks: CD1: 1. Intro 2. Rocket 3. Quiet 4. Today 5. Rhinoceros 6. Geek USA 7. Soma 8. I Am One 9. Disarm 10. Spaceboy 11. Starla 12. Cherub Rock 13. Bury Me
CD2: 1. Hummer 2. Siva 3. Mayonaise 4. Drown 5. Silverfuck 6. Bye June
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can you send a copy?
i'll pay for it obviously
enjoy and have one for me!! :thumbup:
They were a great band with Gish and Siamese Dream,both still stunning albums,I gave Mellon Collie away and never bought anything after Adore.
Shame that B.C's ego swept away a great band,who were fantastic live.
You going to the show tonight at riv? Im debaiting.