Ok, I need to hear what someone else thinks about this...

TouringFan2000

HailHailLeatherman wrote:

That's your opinion, but I understand though that no free thinking is to be had around here since any of it questions you and your allegiance to the almighty 10C. It was actually the responses that flipped the script on the thread and turned this into something else.

Not really bothered (not losing any sleep tonight), just thought it was shady and wanted to see what others thought about it. Kind of funny and ironic that a band and SOME of those who promote and support it have such conservative views on this subject when the bands politcal and social statements tend to lean the other way.

i'm still not following you. and i'm not trying to break your balls, especially since you really do seem to feel strongly and honestly seem to be trying to express something.

i don't understand how the 10C yanking a video from youtube equates to the band or its representatives not supporting your right to free thinking or free speech.

MattyJoe

Well for one thing some anti-bootlegging bands don't even take down crappy fan videos from youtube. They must really not want any bootlegging of any kind for whatever reason.

PilatesBetterman

nowayimfaithfull wrote:

honestly I try to enjoy this place but nowadays the standards are



never break character

we have to be coool at all times

no joking


no talking at shows

no smoking pot

and the ten club has to kiss everyones ass becasue we have been fans of the band for 20 years or whatever the fuck


sorry for the spaces in between but i figured my point may get made easier.

Thanks for the rules, I was wondering why everything seemed weird here:) Everyone should read these new rules lol

bgirl59

cbh1011 wrote:

The band respects us as fans to provide opportunity for great seats, xmas albums, bootlegs and dvd's from all kinds of shows....

and

then makes it clear that on the EV shows, taping, recording, or snapping isn't allowed. Shouldn't we respect EV and 10c and honor their request?

I'm a bit surprised to read posts elsewhere that the band is 'selling out' (are you kidding?) and that times must be a-changin'. Ridiculous.

Dudes... abide.

This is IMO the greatest band and frontman in the history of rock, and they have given more to their fans than any band in history.

Eddie ties the world together.

Respect the man by not pissing on his rug, taping it, and putting it out on the Tube man...

BUMPITY BUMP
Peace

Get_Right

my guess is that they are getting more aggressive about the tube to discourage people from recording in the first place.

If you cant post it, you might not bother recording it

I guess.

Of course, there is always the theory that its being recorded for a DVD and thats when we wil get to see it.

They have always been pretty cool about posting vids, but I guess the phones are now such a nusiance that they have to hit from both ends.

Anon

lbc72 wrote:

I agree with every written word...Nice fucking post. EV/PJ rules and I play by their rules. He and the band owe us nothing. So it's all in bonus round now:D

Thanks, and agreed... after a lot of ins, outs, and what-have-you's... it does feel like a continuous bonus round, doesn't it?

(Let's turn this thread into some fun..... 50 bonus 10C points for first person to come up with the movie I'm referencing in this post and earlier posts on this thread!!)

Anon

MattyJoe wrote:

Yeah man I'm excited. Can't fucking wait,

Plan to hit a pre-party... they are tons of fun prior to the shows.... a group of strangers converge on some unsuspecting bar, take over their sound system, empty them of beer.... and have a awesome time.

Anon

Tone wrote:

I can understand why someone wouldn't want pics taken and being recorded without their consent. Ed's music is his art and his image (self) is his own. Don't you ever try and weasle out of a photo someone's trying to take cause you don't feel like having your pic taken? Imagine that multiplied exponentially. It would drive me absolutely bonkers. ....


With that still in mind, when I kinda met Ed last year outside the Body of War premiere, I didn't take his pic because I didn't get into a position to be able to ask him if he would mind. People were snapping but I just won't take someone's picture unless they've told me I can. Just as when I met Jeff and Mike in '95, there were a bunch of fans and no-one took a pic until they gave their permission. Jeff said yes and Mike said no, everyone respected that. I wouldn't walk up to a random stranger and take their pic without asking, so why would I react differently to PJ?

Great post here. To this point perhaps of respecting the request to not tape/photo.... it seems that whenever you hear of fans encounters with EV after a show (i.e read the fanviews) his walking guards seem to have been fairly consistent about 'no photos'.... and it's great that the fans seem to comply, and EV sits there and signs autos, etc. It keeps the true fans separate and distinct from the pappa-nazi.

JOEJOEJOE

Its not a matter of loyalty to the 10c/PJ. For some reason, they want to protect their copywritten property.

Anyone who has been generous in the past has the full perogative to pull back when they so desire.

Gravy trains dry up all of the time.