How should liberals celebrate the 4th of July

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  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    Blockhead wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    The local 24 hour news station celebrated by asking strangers if they know what the history of July 4th meant, and who the US won freedom from. Turns out that half the people interviewed couldn't answer either question correctly, and yes, it was all on camera. How humiliating. The station went on to say that for the 30 and under crowd, a high percentage couldn't answer the questions at all.
    Not being able to answer those particular questions is pathetic, but maybe these people were not fortunate enough to get an adequate education?...
    I am assuming you live in a house, right? I could interview you and ask you a thousands of questions about the materials of your house, all the MEP's, structural integrity, etc and you probably wouldn't be able to answer 1/4 of them. Does that make you pathetic?
    there is a difference. you get taught about the fourth or july and the american revolution and get tested on it in elementary school history. you have to research and teach yourself about "all the MEP's, structural integrity, etc" unless you are in building design or construction, where it is taught to you...
    Just because your taught and tested /= retained... Expecially at (some)public schools where they pass kids who can't even read so they don't loose funding...
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Blockhead wrote:
    Is there any event/day/minute that you people don't complain about? Do any of you have any fun?
    Why let politics ruin time spent with family/friends.
    I used to think that PJ fans would be cool people to hang out with, but you people sound miserable...
    Why do you spend time listening to an American band, on an American website, if you hate america so much?
    Please explain how any of us are letting politics ruin time spent with families or friends?
    Personally, I just don't partake in any of the flag waving nationalism some consider patriotic.
    I enjoy the holiday just as much as you people who get all puffed up over being born lucky....but apparently not as much as gimme ;)
  • amethgr8amethgr8 Posts: 766
    no one want's to consciously take anything for granted.

    I've never been out of the country (only to carribean) and often wonder of life living somewhere in asia, europe or great britian.

    I see the shows on the documentary chanels and see people literally risking their lives to come here. One show, showed a body of woman laying on the ground, lost from her group and to her end. can you imagine what was going through her mind in those final moments. It's hard to get over sometimes.

    maybe we don't always see it, and a commitment to anything takes growth, and it's not always perfect, but all those people on those shows can't be wrong.

    I'll take it. I'll stay here, try to make my path, change, whatever I can do, but I'm thankful I was born here.

    jus sprayin.,.\
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Nothing says celebrate America like blowing shit up! :lol:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Gob wrote:
    Nothing says celebrate America like blowing shit up! :lol:
    i like how we depend on fireworks made in china to celebrate our independence day.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Blockhead wrote:
    Just because your taught and tested /= retained... Expecially at (some)public schools where they pass kids who can't even read so they don't loose funding...
    really? is it that difficult to retain the most basic of facts about the founding of the country?

    evidently it is....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Gob wrote:
    Nothing says celebrate America like blowing shit up! :lol:
    i like how we depend on fireworks made in china to celebrate our independence day.
    Well, China does own America.. :think:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Blockhead wrote:
    Is there any event/day/minute that you people don't complain about? Do any of you have any fun?
    Why let politics ruin time spent with family/friends.
    I used to think that PJ fans would be cool people to hang out with, but you people sound miserable...
    Why do you spend time listening to an American band, on an American website, if you hate america so much?
    Please explain how any of us are letting politics ruin time spent with families or friends?
    Personally, I just don't partake in any of the flag waving nationalism some consider patriotic.I enjoy the holiday just as much as you people who get all puffed up over being born lucky....but apparently not as much as gimme ;)
    i am the same way. but i did enjoy me a fourth of july party yesterday 8-):lol:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    I did a lot of flag waving this weekend, but mainly from pulling the flag out of the pin at my local golf course. :D

    I hope everyone had a great weekend. Personaly, I did not consume a single thing that was healthy for me over a four day period ... actually kind of glad to get back to work! :oops:
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Gob wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    Nothing says celebrate America like blowing shit up! :lol:
    i like how we depend on fireworks made in china to celebrate our independence day.
    Well, China does own America.. :think:
    you will get no argument from me there, Gob..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    amethgr8 wrote:
    no one want's to consciously take anything for granted.

    I've never been out of the country (only to carribean) and often wonder of life living somewhere in asia, europe or great britian.

    I see the shows on the documentary chanels and see people literally risking their lives to come here. One show, showed a body of woman laying on the ground, lost from her group and to her end. can you imagine what was going through her mind in those final moments. It's hard to get over sometimes.

    maybe we don't always see it, and a commitment to anything takes growth, and it's not always perfect, but all those people on those shows can't be wrong.

    I'll take it. I'll stay here, try to make my path, change, whatever I can do, but I'm thankful I was born here.

    jus sprayin.,.\
    amy
    I think the people who risk their lives to get to the US are exclusively poor.
    I think those same people would likely live a pretty comfortable life in their home country if they were well-off, regardless of what country we're discussing. Also, you can almost be sure that our countries have at LEAST somewhat contributed to the conditions that leave them desparate in the first place.
    Regardless of your opinion on that topic, the underlined words above make all the difference in the world to me. Being THANKFUL and feeling LUCKY to be born in a "first-world" country is totally understandable. Being PROUD to be born here, is not. Taking pride in something you had nothing to do with always seems foolish to me.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    brandon10 wrote:

    And some wonder why Pearl Jam won't play the south?


    cuz theer skeered. panzeez.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Blockhead wrote:
    Is there any event/day/minute that you people don't complain about? Do any of you have any fun?
    Why let politics ruin time spent with family/friends.
    I used to think that PJ fans would be cool people to hang out with, but you people sound miserable...
    Why do you spend time listening to an American band, on an American website, if you hate america so much?
    Please explain how any of us are letting politics ruin time spent with families or friends?
    Personally, I just don't partake in any of the flag waving nationalism some consider patriotic.
    I enjoy the holiday just as much as you people who get all puffed up over being born lucky....but apparently not as much as gimme ;)

    3,101 posts.

    (just breakin' ballz.)
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    brandon10 wrote:

    And some wonder why Pearl Jam won't play the south?

    Because there are no racists in the north right? :lol:
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Parachute wrote:
    Blockhead wrote:
    Is there any event/day/minute that you people don't complain about? Do any of you have any fun?
    Why let politics ruin time spent with family/friends.
    I used to think that PJ fans would be cool people to hang out with, but you people sound miserable...
    Why do you spend time listening to an American band, on an American website, if you hate america so much?
    Please explain how any of us are letting politics ruin time spent with families or friends?
    Personally, I just don't partake in any of the flag waving nationalism some consider patriotic.
    I enjoy the holiday just as much as you people who get all puffed up over being born lucky....but apparently not as much as gimme ;)

    3,101 posts.

    (just breakin' ballz.)
    Geez, you're even wrong when you're kidding around ;)
    My post count would be more indicative of wasting work time than time with family/friends...esp considering I have a friend or two here and this is how I spend time 'with' them....and my 'most active forum' is the AET.
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    Parachute wrote:
    Please explain how any of us are letting politics ruin time spent with families or friends?
    Personally, I just don't partake in any of the flag waving nationalism some consider patriotic.
    I enjoy the holiday just as much as you people who get all puffed up over being born lucky....but apparently not as much as gimme ;)

    3,101 posts.

    (just breakin' ballz.)
    Geez, you're even wrong when you're kidding around ;)
    My post count would be more indicative of wasting work time than time with family/friends...esp considering I have a friend or two here and this is how I spend time 'with' them....and my 'most active forum' is the AET.
    :roll: keep on justifying...
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Blockhead wrote:
    :roll: keep on justifying...
    Hardly justifying anything, just pointing out Parachute's error. Comprende? I even said so. I'll be sure to congratulate you on your upcoming 1000th post Heidi. I guess you're 2/3 better than me.
    Justify this: letting others answer direct questions for you, then popping out from behind their skirt to make a lil troll remark.
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    Blockhead wrote:
    :roll: keep on justifying...
    Hardly justifying anything, just pointing out Parachute's error. Comprende? I even said so. I'll be sure to congratulate you on your upcoming 1000th post Heidi. I guess you're 2/3 better than me.
    Justify this: letting others answer direct questions for you, then popping out from behind their skirt to make a lil troll remark.
    ??? what question was directed towards me?
  • KatKat Posts: 4,908
    Since the holiday is over, so is this thread...and getting along is important....personal comments are not ok.
    Falling down,...not staying down
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