John McCain doesn't like Ledbetter...here's why...

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McCain opposes equal pay bill in Senate
By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 23, 7:40 PM ET
NEW ORLEANS - Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits.
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Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had delayed the vote to give McCain's Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, time to return to Washington to support the measure, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination.
McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans.
"I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems," the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. "This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system."
The bill sought to counteract a Supreme Court decision limiting how long workers can wait before suing for pay discrimination.
It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more.
The Supreme Court voted 5-4 last year to throw out her complaint, saying she had waited too long to sue.
Democrats criticized McCain for opposing the bill.
"Senator McCain has yet again fallen in line with President Bush while middle-class families are falling by the wayside," Clinton said in a statement following the vote. "Women are earning less, but Senator McCain is offering more of the same."
Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney said: "At a time when American families are struggling to keep their homes and jobs while paying more for everything from gasoline to groceries, how on Earth would anyone who thinks they can lead our country also think it's acceptable to oppose equal pay for America's mothers, wives and daughters?"
McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.
"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.
"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.
McCain chose to visit the tiny hamlet of Inez, Ky., because it is where President Lyndon B. Johnson declared war on poverty. But McCain said Johnson's poverty programs had failed.
"I wouldn't be back here today if government had fulfilled the promise that Lyndon Johnson made 44 years ago," he said.
In recent weeks, McCain has proposed a series of tax breaks for corporations, government-backed refinancing for struggling homeowners and a summer holiday from gas taxes. He proposed another new program Wednesday: a tax write-off for companies that provide high-speed Internet access for underserved, low-income communities.
McCain opposes equal pay bill in Senate
By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 23, 7:40 PM ET
NEW ORLEANS - Republican Sen. John McCain, campaigning through poverty-stricken cities and towns, said Wednesday he opposes a Senate bill that seeks equal pay for women because it would lead to more lawsuits.
ADVERTISEMENT
Senate Republicans killed the bill Wednesday night on a 56-42 vote that denied the measure the 60 votes needed to advance it to full debate and a vote. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had delayed the vote to give McCain's Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, time to return to Washington to support the measure, which would make it easier for women to sue their employers for pay discrimination.
McCain skipped the vote to campaign in New Orleans.
"I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what's being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems," the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. "This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system."
The bill sought to counteract a Supreme Court decision limiting how long workers can wait before suing for pay discrimination.
It is named for Lilly Ledbetter, a supervisor at the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.'s plant in Gadsden, Ala., who sued for pay discrimination just before retiring after a 19-year career there. By the time she retired, Ledbetter made $6,500 less than the lowest-paid male supervisor and claimed earlier decisions by supervisors kept her from making more.
The Supreme Court voted 5-4 last year to throw out her complaint, saying she had waited too long to sue.
Democrats criticized McCain for opposing the bill.
"Senator McCain has yet again fallen in line with President Bush while middle-class families are falling by the wayside," Clinton said in a statement following the vote. "Women are earning less, but Senator McCain is offering more of the same."
Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney said: "At a time when American families are struggling to keep their homes and jobs while paying more for everything from gasoline to groceries, how on Earth would anyone who thinks they can lead our country also think it's acceptable to oppose equal pay for America's mothers, wives and daughters?"
McCain stated his opposition to the bill as he campaigned in rural eastern Kentucky, where poverty is worse among women than men. The Arizona senator said he was familiar with the disparity but that there are better ways to help women find better paying jobs.
"They need the education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else," McCain said. "And it's hard for them to leave their families when they don't have somebody to take care of them.
"It's a vicious cycle that's affecting women, particularly in a part of the country like this, where mining is the mainstay; traditionally, women have not gone into that line of work, to say the least," he said.
McCain chose to visit the tiny hamlet of Inez, Ky., because it is where President Lyndon B. Johnson declared war on poverty. But McCain said Johnson's poverty programs had failed.
"I wouldn't be back here today if government had fulfilled the promise that Lyndon Johnson made 44 years ago," he said.
In recent weeks, McCain has proposed a series of tax breaks for corporations, government-backed refinancing for struggling homeowners and a summer holiday from gas taxes. He proposed another new program Wednesday: a tax write-off for companies that provide high-speed Internet access for underserved, low-income communities.
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that's ok, cause i'm not too keen on mccain either0
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why would anybody want 4 more years of these kind of excuses??the Minions0
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war hero.
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4Powers20 wrote:war hero.
absolutely!! but too much of a bush puppet the last 8 years.Raleigh '03; Hartford '08; Mansfield II '08; Buffalo '10; Hartford '10;East Troy I '11; East Troy II '11; DeLuna Fest '12; Wrigley '13; Buffalo '13;Toronto II '16; Wrigley I '16; Wrigley II '16; Wrigley I '18; Wrigley II '18;
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NeverbeenLedbetter wrote:absolutely!! but too much of a bush puppet the last 8 years.
not really.
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Yes vote for McCain. Another guy who will try to scare everyone and forget whats going on, here on American Soil.The sad part is people think Bush/McCain are elevating this country, they will bankrupt us, and blame everything on the Clinton years.Dare I say McCain is better than Bush, but we still need to overhaul this situation.Our military is worn thin,economy is in ruin,gas is through the roof. I'm not confident in the Dems
but this time around I would absolutly take the lesser of 2 evils0 -
I will vote for the guy with military expeirence since we are in a war (regardless if you like it or not, we are in a war) and not Hilary or Obama who do not have a military background.
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NeverbeenLedbetter wrote:absolutely!! but too much of a bush puppet the last 8 years.
lol..Republicans think he's a closet Dem and Dems thinks he's W 2.
Yet Obama is friends with an American Hating Racist, a mob criminal, a terrorist, and one more controversial pal to be named soon. Yeah..he's got a prayer...0 -
Drew263 wrote:lol..Republicans think he's a closet Dem and Dems thinks he's W 2.
Yet Obama is friends with an American Hating Racist, a mob criminal, a terrorist, and one more controversial pal to be named soon. Yeah..he's got a prayer...
Bush/Cheney seem reallll close to the Saudis
The same Saudis that gave us highjackers,who hold us hostage at gas pumps,and who treat woman like shit.Yet they still love high end American shit
Doesn't McCain follow a preacher who hates Catholics? I myself am Catholc and that is kinda offensive0 -
Why is this thread in this forum?
This is a stupid fucking bill that deserved to be voted down. Why would anyone want the government running businesses and deciding who should get paid who much. They can't even manage themselves. Keep the government out of my life and my business."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
CROJAM95 wrote:Bush/Cheney seem reallll close to the Saudis
The same Saudis that gave us highjackers,who hold us hostage at gas pumps,and who treat woman like shit.Yet they still love high end American shit
Doesn't McCain follow a preacher who hates Catholics? I myself am Catholc and that is kinda offensive
The Saudi's are holding us hostage at gas pumps? Every gas company had record high profits last year. The oil execs are holding us hostage more than the producers.
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jeffbr wrote:Why is this thread in this forum?
This is a stupid fucking bill that deserved to be voted down. Why would anyone want the government running businesses and deciding who should get paid who much. They can't even manage themselves. Keep the government out of my life and my business.
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I agree wholeheartedly with McCain's decision. This is just another piece of legislation crafted by lawyers to make even more money than they already steal from us. The less lawsuits and government the better.SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
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4Powers20 wrote:The Saudi's are holding us hostage at gas pumps? Every gas company had record high profits last year. The oil execs are holding us hostage more than the producers.
There are many to blame, also taxes. Saudis are known for fuckin with production.Cheney was there last month asking for lower crude oil prices, not to help Americans but to warn Saudis we might get wise and move one day in a new renewable energy direction.
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NeverbeenLedbetter wrote:absolutely!! but too much of a bush puppet the last 8 years.
With everything going on in the world...and the 3 options our government is giving us for president....McCain is the best option....in my opinion. I'm not "whoooo-Hooo McCain!" I don't agree with some of his plans but to me, Obama and Hillary are so goddamn phony I can't stand it. Plus they are beating eachother up so much with this process it is hurting either of their chances.Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste0 -
faithful2you wrote:You obviously do not follow politics at all. That statement came right out of your uneducated ass.
With everything going on in the world...and the 3 options our government is giving us for president....McCain is the best option....in my opinion. I'm not "whoooo-Hooo McCain!" I don't agree with some of his plans but to me, Obama and Hillary are so goddamn phony I can't stand it. Plus they are beating eachother up so much with this process it is hurting either of their chances.
I think Obama is falling fast. Its a shame. McCain will be the next president.The best presidents we've had have all been great speakers.I think Obama would bring a positive vibe to Washington.0 -
faithful2you wrote:You obviously do not follow politics at all. That statement came right out of your uneducated ass.
With everything going on in the world...and the 3 options our government is giving us for president....McCain is the best option....in my opinion. I'm not "whoooo-Hooo McCain!" I don't agree with some of his plans but to me, Obama and Hillary are so goddamn phony I can't stand it. Plus they are beating eachother up so much with this process it is hurting either of their chances.
Thanks for the insult and your opinion...hey I like the guy as a man and as a war hero, but I've want to see more of the guy that ran against bush in 2000, than the guy I've seen at bush's side at times on certain issues (obviously not interrogation tactics). I'm not a bush follower so obviously I like someone who is as far away from him as possible and that's my opinion. I am also far from uneducated.Raleigh '03; Hartford '08; Mansfield II '08; Buffalo '10; Hartford '10;East Troy I '11; East Troy II '11; DeLuna Fest '12; Wrigley '13; Buffalo '13;Toronto II '16; Wrigley I '16; Wrigley II '16; Wrigley I '18; Wrigley II '18;
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CROJAM95 wrote:I think Obama is falling fast. Its a shame. McCain will be the next president.The best presidents we've had have all been great speakers.I think Obama would bring a positive vibe to Washington.
I don't think Obama is falling at all. In spite of the many things Clinton/McCain have thrown at him, he has continued to ring up endorsements by others Dems, win over superdelegates, and gain the support of American voters. Hell, he just cut a 25% Clinton lead in Pennsylvania to only 10%. That's a huge leap in a matter of weeks.
Obama WILL be the Democratic nominee. Clinton would have to win almost 70% of the popular vote in the remaining primaries, and that just isn't going to happen. She has pretty much conceded North Carolina to Obama, and she has failed to win more than 65% of the vote in any state except Arkansas (where her husband used to be governer).
I like Clinton, but I wish she would drop out of the race and start repairing some of the damage that has been done to the Democrats with her sparring with Obama. I still think Obama can and will win the presidency, but that won't be made clear until he officially wins the Democratic nomination and begins a full-fledged campaign for president.
When that does happen, and people begin to realize the breath of fresh air he will bring to the White House, and begin to learn how his policies/ideas would differ from McCain's, I truly believe he will win over enough voters to be our next president.Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
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walkunafraid wrote:I don't think Obama is falling at all. In spite of the many things Clinton/McCain have thrown at him, he has continued to ring up endorsements by others Dems, win over superdelegates, and gain the support of American voters. Hell, he just cut a 25% Clinton lead in Pennsylvania to only 10%. That's a huge leap in a matter of weeks.
Obama WILL be the Democratic nominee. Clinton would have to win almost 70% of the popular vote in the remaining primaries, and that just isn't going to happen. She has pretty much conceded North Carolina to Obama, and she has failed to win more than 65% of the vote in any state except Arkansas (where her husband used to be governer).
I like Clinton, but I wish she would drop out of the race and start repairing some of the damage that has been done to the Democrats with her sparring with Obama. I still think Obama can and will win the presidency, but that won't be made clear until he officially wins the Democratic nomination and begins a full-fledged campaign for president.
When that does happen, and people begin to realize the breath of fresh air he will bring to the White House, and begin to learn how his policies/ideas would differ from McCain's, I truly believe he will win over enough voters to be our next president.
Wait til November. If you think Kerry got it bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.Kerry was a bonified WAR HERO, like our friend McCain,and they ripped him up. I just feel their are powers in this country that will never let a black guy win, no matter what.0 -
CROJAM95 wrote:Wait til November. If you think Kerry got it bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.Kerry was a bonified WAR HERO, like our friend McCain,and they ripped him up. I just feel their are powers in this country that will never let a black guy win, no matter what.
Kerry was not a war hero. His "tour" was a summer camp compared to what McCain went through.Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste0
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