The Tea Party's Libertarian Paradise!!

Prince Of Dorkness

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you... a country with...

- No minimum wage

- No Social programs at all

- No Government interference

- No rules and regulations that stop business from growing at whatever rate it can.


I give you.... Somalia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aWCZVggQAs

mikepegg44

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you... a country with...

- No minimum wage

- No Social programs at all

- No Government interference

- No rules and regulations that stop business from growing at whatever rate it can.


I give you.... Somalia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aWCZVggQAs

that comparison has already been tried here...little government intrusion does not mean no laws...
why does it have to be the most extreme example...obviously no one wants a thunderdome ... well maybe uncle ted does...

Prince Of Dorkness

mikepegg44 wrote:

that comparison has already been tried here...little government intrusion does not mean no laws...
why does it have to be the most extreme example...obviously no one wants a thunderdome ... well maybe uncle ted does...

Well yeah... they do.

But the problem with Tea Party people is that they're extremely selfish. If it doesn't benefit them personally and directly... they're DEAD SET against it. The second that it benefits them... the whole country should pay for it.

If they don't personally gain from it, they're going to stop it at any costs... take gay marriage just as an example... it helps people other than them... has zero impact on them personally.. but most are donating money to stop it. But public roads... oh, they're for that. A library? No... that carries books they don't read.

mikepegg44

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

that comparison has already been tried here...little government intrusion does not mean no laws...
why does it have to be the most extreme example...obviously no one wants a thunderdome ... well maybe uncle ted does...

Well yeah... they do.

But the problem with Tea Party people is that they're extremely selfish. If it doesn't benefit them personally and directly... they're DEAD SET against it. The second that it benefits them... the whole country should pay for it.

If they don't personally gain from it, they're going to stop it at any costs... take gay marriage just as an example... it helps people other than them... has zero impact on them personally.. but most are donating money to stop it. But public roads... oh, they're for that. A library? No... that carries books they don't read.

I love your generalizations, have any more?

So should i think that all liberals want the government to take care of all their needs on the backs of rich people? or should I realize that people think with their own minds and simply portraying them as ignorant assholes and taking it all the way to an extreme doesn't make them ignorant assholes....they just disagree with you...and yes, it sucks that they cannot realize that gay marriage should not even be a concern to them,
I don't know why I bother, I don't want to change your political views, but man you take things to an extreme and throw out any possibility of a middle ground. It is like saying that if you are pro-choice you are anti baby...that isn't true, and neither is saying things like tea partiers don't read books(untrue, actually they are more educated than the average american according to the ny times).

Prince Of Dorkness

mikepegg44 wrote:

I love your generalizations, have any more?

So should i think that all liberals want the government to take care of all their needs on the backs of rich people?

No. That would be socialists. And socialists and liberals and progressives are different things. Which are different from Nazis, fascists and communists. No matter how much people at Tea Party rallies try to tell you otherwise.

but man you take things to an extreme and throw out any possibility of a middle ground.

Well I agree with that. I hope you said the same things to the guy in the other thread who, when we said having no minimum wage would be catastrophic to our way of life in America, fired back at us that we were advocating for a $100 per hour minimum wage.

Parachute

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

that comparison has already been tried here...little government intrusion does not mean no laws...
why does it have to be the most extreme example...obviously no one wants a thunderdome ... well maybe uncle ted does...

Well yeah... they do.

But the problem with Tea Party people is that they're extremely selfish. If it doesn't benefit them personally and directly... they're DEAD SET against it. The second that it benefits them... the whole country should pay for it.

If they don't personally gain from it, they're going to stop it at any costs... take gay marriage just as an example... it helps people other than them... has zero impact on them personally.. but most are donating money to stop it. But public roads... oh, they're for that. A library? No... that carries books they don't read.

Couple days ago The Romney thread got locked b/c someone was making generalizations about an entire group- i.e. Mormons are all ______, or All Muslims are _______, or something like that. Kat posted a message about it.

Calling ALL people, who happen to belong to a larger group, a derogatory word like "selfish" is against one of the millions of rules on the forum.

Oh, wait, you were talking about the Tea Party? Oh, ok, that's allowed. Carry on....

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you... a country with...

- No minimum wage

- No Social programs at all

- No Government interference

- No rules and regulations that stop business from growing at whatever rate it can.


I give you.... Somalia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aWCZVggQAs

I can't watch the vid at work but it sounds like they are trying to tap in the out-sourcing America is looking for
but American business' don't realize that you only get what you pay for....yet.

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness

Godfather. wrote:

I can't watch the vid at work but it sounds like they are trying to tap in the out-sourcing America is looking for
but American business' don't realize that you only get what you pay for....yet.

Godfather.

no, they're poking fun at the Tea Party mantra that "we don't want the government to do anything for us" which is taken to a rather comedic extreme in this video. It starts out with two people saying they don't to be on a "socialist public beach" and then they talk about how there are no socialist things in Somalia and no Government to get in people's way.

Then they joke about how without any public health monitors, the woman in the video gets Cholera.

Of course ALL Tea Parties don't think that. But being a tea party member is a choice... you're not born into it and it's not a religion in which you're raised (you'll note I just walked away from the Mormon thing, by the way... but I didn't take anything back). People who choose to be tea party members tend, in my rather extensive history of getting into cat fights on the internet, a pretty selfish group who don't want to be paying for anything that doesn't directly benefit them but they DO want the whole country to pay for their roads, beaches, parks and infrastructure.

Parachute

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I can't watch the vid at work but it sounds like they are trying to tap in the out-sourcing America is looking for
but American business' don't realize that you only get what you pay for....yet.

Godfather.

no, they're poking fun at the Tea Party mantra that "we don't want the government to do anything for us" which is taken to a rather comedic extreme in this video. It starts out with two people saying they don't to be on a "socialist public beach" and then they talk about how there are no socialist things in Somalia and no Government to get in people's way.

Then they joke about how without any public health monitors, the woman in the video gets Cholera.

Of course ALL Tea Parties don't think that. But being a tea party member is a choice... you're not born into it and it's not a religion in which you're raised (you'll note I just walked away from the Mormon thing, by the way... but I didn't take anything back). People who choose to be tea party members tend, in my rather extensive history of getting into cat fights on the internet, a pretty selfish group who don't want to be paying for anything that doesn't directly benefit them but they DO want the whole country to pay for their roads, beaches, parks and infrastructure.

Dude, those people already payed for the roads, beaches, parks, and infrastructure with their taxes.

they just don't want to be taxed again to pay for healthcare, housing, GM, foreign aid to enemy countries, welfare, bank bailouts, free cell phones for inner-city babies' mommas, "green jobs- whatever the fuck that fairy tale was supposed to be- abortions for teens in Panama, or gov't studies to find out the effects of exercise on sick shrimp, or the effects of cocaine on monkeys w/ hangovers, or a billion other bullshit programs.

check the box on your tax return that says you'd like to pay more. leave my moneyout of it.

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

Dude, those people already payed for the roads, beaches, parks, and infrastructure with their taxes.

And those things need to be maintained. It's not something you buy once.

And paying for things like the high=speed rails would be a brilliant idea.. creates jobs here in America, gets the people moving, makes us a more attractive destination and makes it easier to travel. But the Tea Party people are all totally against it because, I think, it isn't in their own back yard and (let's face it), it would make our current president look good.

Parachute

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Parachute wrote:

Dude, those people already payed for the roads, beaches, parks, and infrastructure with their taxes.

And those things need to be maintained. It's not something you buy once.

And paying for things like the high=speed rails would be a brilliant idea.. creates jobs here in America, gets the people moving, makes us a more attractive destination and makes it easier to travel. But the Tea Party people are all totally against it because, I think, it isn't in their own back yard and (let's face it), it would make our current president look good.

Maybe, except for the part about making Obomber look good. Impossible.

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

Maybe, except for the part about making Obomber look good. Impossible.

YEAH... stuff like that.. PLEASE keep saying stuff like that for the next year or two, OK?

Maybe wear a T-shirt that depicts him as King Kong attacking New York City?

THAT will play well on BET.

brianlux

Too much libertarian magic dust in the tea... so that's why they're so whacky!

Go Beavers

Parachute wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I can't watch the vid at work but it sounds like they are trying to tap in the out-sourcing America is looking for
but American business' don't realize that you only get what you pay for....yet.

Godfather.

no, they're poking fun at the Tea Party mantra that "we don't want the government to do anything for us" which is taken to a rather comedic extreme in this video. It starts out with two people saying they don't to be on a "socialist public beach" and then they talk about how there are no socialist things in Somalia and no Government to get in people's way.

Then they joke about how without any public health monitors, the woman in the video gets Cholera.

Of course ALL Tea Parties don't think that. But being a tea party member is a choice... you're not born into it and it's not a religion in which you're raised (you'll note I just walked away from the Mormon thing, by the way... but I didn't take anything back). People who choose to be tea party members tend, in my rather extensive history of getting into cat fights on the internet, a pretty selfish group who don't want to be paying for anything that doesn't directly benefit them but they DO want the whole country to pay for their roads, beaches, parks and infrastructure.

Dude, those people already payed for the roads, beaches, parks, and infrastructure with their taxes.

they just don't want to be taxed again to pay for healthcare, housing, GM, foreign aid to enemy countries, welfare, bank bailouts, free cell phones for inner-city babies' mommas, "green jobs- whatever the fuck that fairy tale was supposed to be- abortions for teens in Panama, or gov't studies to find out the effects of exercise on sick shrimp, or the effects of cocaine on monkeys w/ hangovers, or a billion other bullshit programs.

check the box on your tax return that says you'd like to pay more. leave my moneyout of it.

If any leader of the tea party has outlined where they'd like to cut the budget (which programs and how much would be saved), where they'd cut taxes, and how that would affect revenue I'd like to see it. Is there a link?

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

they just don't want to be taxed again to pay for healthcare,

Of course they do. Tea Baggers love to go on about how they get "free healthcare" by going to emergency rooms and falling down.

housing,

No, they want their mortgages lowered.

GM,

But they hate foreign cars

foreign aid to enemy countries,

Unless it's a Dick Cheney-owned company "rebuilding" a third-world nation we bombed back to the stone age.

welfare,

Other than tax cuts for billionaires

bank bailouts,

Unless it's their own bank

free cell phones for inner-city babies' mommas,

Since they're all black

"green jobs- whatever the fuck that fairy tale was supposed to be-

Unless they're cleaning up where we want to fish or swim or live

abortions for teens in Panama,

Which is something you just made up

or gov't studies to find out the effects of exercise on sick shrimp, or the effects of cocaine on monkeys w/ hangovers, or a billion other bullshit programs.

Until it helps cure the cancer that I got from eating the shrimp I ate out of the gulf that was poisoned by the oil company that I just gave a mega tax cut to..

check the box on your tax return that says you'd like to pay more. leave my moneyout of it.

No thanks. Tired of being the only one to clean up your mess.

How about you hold a lightbulb over your head and see if the whole world revolves around you?

he still stands

sorry guys, let's try to have an argument that isn't based on 1) hyperbole or 2) analogy 3) hypotheticals. Reality is vexxing enough.

inmytree

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you... a country with...

- No minimum wage

- No Social programs at all

- No Government interference

- No rules and regulations that stop business from growing at whatever rate it can.


I give you.... Somalia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... aWCZVggQAs

great post...

It's funny that those who hate gov't are quick to dismiss this wonderland of freedom...

Parachute

You are a funny dude.

But not much of an intellectual.

Leave my hard earned money alone.

Parachute

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Parachute wrote:

Maybe, except for the part about making Obomber look good. Impossible.

YEAH... stuff like that.. PLEASE keep saying stuff like that for the next year or two, OK?

Maybe wear a T-shirt that depicts him as King Kong attacking New York City?

THAT will play well on BET.

Now THAT is funny!! I like that.

You're alright Dorkness- I don't care what Dick Cheney says about you.

Jason P

I don't believe that Somalia follows these three core mantras of the Tea Party:

Fiscal Responsibility
Constitutionally Limited Government
Free Markets

I know those are some pretty far-right extremist ideas, but take them for what you will.

Electric_Delta

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

that comparison has already been tried here...little government intrusion does not mean no laws...
why does it have to be the most extreme example...obviously no one wants a thunderdome ... well maybe uncle ted does...

Well yeah... they do.

But the problem with Tea Party people is that they're extremely selfish. If it doesn't benefit them personally and directly... they're DEAD SET against it. The second that it benefits them... the whole country should pay for it.

If they don't personally gain from it, they're going to stop it at any costs... take gay marriage just as an example... it helps people other than them... has zero impact on them personally.. but most are donating money to stop it. But public roads... oh, they're for that. A library? No... that carries books they don't read.

Your generalizations are ignorant and you have proven your intolerance.