The thinking atheist

pandora

Seeing death as the end of life is like seeing the horizon as the end of the ocean."
— David Searls

Live and let live and love

Parachute

pandora wrote:

Seeing death as the end of life is like seeing the horizon as the end of the ocean."
— David Searls

Live and let live and love

I like this saying a lot. thanks for sharing.

arq

Parachute wrote:

He gave you free will. It's up to you. If you don't believe, that's fine, but then why take the time to post- other than to put down someone's religion. You should go to Iran and try that. You'd get stoned. And not in a good way!

Well religious people need to read their sacred text more often, and you should go with me to Iran, xtians are not too appreciated over there either

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

He gave you free will. It's up to you. If you don't believe, that's fine, but then why take the time to post- other than to put down someone's religion. You should go to Iran and try that. You'd get stoned. And not in a good way!

Hm... you don't actually see the Irony in this sentence at ALL, do you?

You just put down the beliefs of me and an entire country.

(and for the record, you'd probably get stoned. I'm gay. I'd get beheaded or hanged.)

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

I agree w/ the rational part, not the weird part- (I'm a chick, not an old man w/ a beard).

I'm talking about the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. I'm talking about how God looks like we feel comfortable with him looking.. white skin, dressed like they dressed back then.. facial hair how old men wore it back then. Just like how we made Jesus white with medium brown hair and blue eyes. Which is absurd.

I do believe in evolution, I just think it's devine.

And I think Divine is a fat drag queen from the John Waters movies.

What an amazing, intricate plan!

God rocks!

Um. Ugh, Alright. Believe what you want. Just don't teach it in my kid's schools or I'll make sure they also teach my Neo-Paganism and the naked Spring Solstice dance is a night you're NOT going to enjoy.

mysticweed

what i used to call God (raised southern baptist), i now call the universe
the scope of our very lives goes back 13.5+ billion years
the probability that there are hundreds of billions of other universes each in various stages of their own evolution blows even my universe is god notion
this makes the whole space/time continuum of our own universe a blip in the whole multiverse scheme

who/what/where would be the deity of all this

not yahweh
not god the father
not allah

such a deity would have reign over far more souls that we could ever imagine

but then, at what point of our physical evolution was the soul developed?
i believe we evolved our own souls and created the deities that we seek to keep these souls

in the end should it not be the same for every soul that ever existed
or nothing
at all
?

LikeAnOcean

My problem with religion is it distracts people from focusing on the now.

Most humans feel empty with out a belief, I get that. I understand the need for religion, but it often makes irrelevant issues an issue, like focusing on gay people vs. figuring out how to fix this countries educational system and save our economy.

I have an idea. Either we make it legal for anyone to get married or erase marriage all together. I'm tired of getting fucked over with taxes and insurance rates because I'm not married anyhow.

Let's all agree that nobody really knows the explanation for life and our consiousness. Can't we?


For the record, I'm agnostic. I don't believe, but would like to believe in something. Whatever happens, happens. Just go with the flow of life and deal the cards that are dealt to you.

brianlux

God said to Abrahm, "Kill me a son".
Abe said, "Man, you must be puttin' me on."

That's my religion... for today.

catefrances

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

i've become increasingly convinced, as i get older, that Atheism is just as dumb, if not dumber, than most other "religions".

I don't believe in a "personal" god, dressed in a white robe, with a resplendent flowing mane, and a wooden staff in his hand ... but i'm not prepared to throw the baby jesus out with the holy water yet, either.

There are lots of reasons to think and suspect that there is cosmic intelligence at play in the universe, and I'm keen on the notion that "consciousness" is something that "lives" outside of the human form, just as much as in it. That deity is something that is present at all levels of creation as a form of consciousness, and that it exists in the macrocosm as an overriding force that "guides" all.

Yeah. I know there is no proof.

yeah thats me... Getting dumber every year.

kenny olav

I don't just believe in the divine, I feel its presence everywhere. I don't get much of that feeling from the Bible.

kenny olav

Perhaps I sound like one of those wild-eyed raving mystics, but I'm fine with that. In every religion I see a yearning for contact with the divine, but trying to explain it and claiming to receive dogma from it, clouds that connection, and at worst, misuses it. I don't think it's something that we can explain. I don't bother trying to explain, I just welcome it, and I get peace from that.

pandora

^^^^^ I love both your posts ^^^^^

Thinking too much, trying to explain, takes away from the feel
and it's this feel that brings me peace also.

I trust the feel, it is my faith

catefrances

but for some, disconnecting the thinking part of the brain is not possible... for any reason.

kenny olav

Ludwig Wittgenstein is one of the philosophers I studied in college and trust me, I am nowhere close to understanding the entirety of his thoughts, but there are a few thoughts of his, which are found in his most celebrated book Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, that speak to me loud and clear:

"There are, indeed, things that cannot be put into words. They make themselves manifest. They are what is mystical."

"What we cannot speak about, we must forever pass over in silence."

And silence is golden.