The thinking atheist

Digital Twilight
Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
edited June 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4ZuHEY ... r_embedded

I'm not interested in 'bible bashing' I just thought this was good video that makes some decent points. It must be difficult for people who grew up in a devout religious household when you yourself don't believe.
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  • territamu
    territamu Posts: 194
    That is a good video. Thanks for posting it. I have a few friends who could benefit from seeing that video.
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  • Akshardham
    Akshardham Posts: 49
    atheism... just another ism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions

    don't throw out so much wisdom from old ages based on bad experience with one. just explore and see where life leads you. follow your own convictions and keep an open mind and heart in this life.








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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    i've become increasingly convinced, as i get older, that Atheism is just as dumb, if not dumber, than most other "religions".

    I don't believe in a "personal" god, dressed in a white robe, with a resplendent flowing mane, and a wooden staff in his hand ... but i'm not prepared to throw the baby jesus out with the holy water yet, either.

    There are lots of reasons to think and suspect that there is cosmic intelligence at play in the universe, and I'm keen on the notion that "consciousness" is something that "lives" outside of the human form, just as much as in it. That deity is something that is present at all levels of creation as a form of consciousness, and that it exists in the macrocosm as an overriding force that "guides" all.

    Yeah. I know there is no proof.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think athiest = large ego.
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    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    know1 wrote:
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think athiest = large ego.

    How so?
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    know1 wrote:
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think Christian = large ego.

    FTFY
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Interesting that this was posted on Sunday!

    Personally, I'm not big on religion. Belief in mystery makes more sense to me. My own faith is based on the idea that there is something mysterious about life and the universe and everything but as soon as you try to define God, your god is too small (there is actually a book about that called Your God is Too Small by J B Phillips). Religions have been responsible for too many wars, too much suffering. Simple faith kept humble and personal is much more sensible.

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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    know1 wrote:
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think athiest = large ego.


    Odd. I've always felt that anyone who believes in any religion must have a huge ego to think they're so special that God created them and this world for them and that they're not just some biological accident that put us here via evolution.

    To me, an atheist would be more of a humble person.

    And it always seems to be the ones who bash people over the heads with their bibles who think a bit too much of themselves.
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  • Parachute
    Parachute Posts: 409
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think athiest = large ego.


    Odd. I've always felt that anyone who believes in any religion must have a huge ego to think they're so special that God created them and this world for them and that they're not just some biological accident that put us here via evolution.

    To me, an atheist would be more of a humble person.

    And it always seems to be the ones who bash people over the heads with their bibles who think a bit too much of themselves.

    God made me in His image, just like you. In that sense you and I are special.

    He knew you would deny Him, but He loves you anyway, and will forgive you... All you have to do is ask.

    No matter what happens to me in this life- its gonna be all good in the end... and the end comes to us all.

    Peace, friend.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Parachute wrote:
    God made me in His image, just like you. In that sense you and I are special.

    He knew you would deny Him, but He loves you anyway, and will forgive you... All you have to do is ask.

    No matter what happens to me in this life- its gonna be all good in the end... and the end comes to us all.

    Peace, friend.

    That is a awful god you're talking about, if him/her/it can see the future and knows my answer even before I make it and still choose to create me to go to a place of eternal suffering is nothing less than a monster.

    Christian = large ego
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Parachute wrote:
    God made me in His image,


    No. Biology made you in your present image via evolution. You share about 99% of the same genes with other primates. We're all from that same line.

    We made God in OUR image. Mind you, we did that way back when we wore white robes and long beards.

    But you know... styles change.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    We made God in OUR image.


    And is quite awful! :twisted:
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    arq wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    We made God in OUR image.


    And is quite awful! :twisted:

    Religion is just pure fail, especially christianity and islam.

    Richard Dawkins is the man!!

    Charles Darwin had the balls to ask!
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Brisk. wrote:
    Richard Dawkins is the man!!
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    arq wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    God made me in His image, just like you. In that sense you and I are special.

    He knew you would deny Him, but He loves you anyway, and will forgive you... All you have to do is ask.

    No matter what happens to me in this life- its gonna be all good in the end... and the end comes to us all.

    Peace, friend.

    That is a awful god you're talking about, if him/her/it can see the future and knows my answer even before I make it and still choose to create me to go to a place of eternal suffering is nothing less than a monster.

    Christian = large ego


    God gave us free will. So it would be your choice were you want to go.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    aerial wrote:
    God gave us free will. So it would be your choice were you want to go.

    There's no free will in god's logic if he knows past present and future.
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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  • Parachute
    Parachute Posts: 409
    arq wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    God made me in His image, just like you. In that sense you and I are special.

    He knew you would deny Him, but He loves you anyway, and will forgive you... All you have to do is ask.

    No matter what happens to me in this life- its gonna be all good in the end... and the end comes to us all.

    Peace, friend.

    That is a awful god you're talking about, if him/her/it can see the future and knows my answer even before I make it and still choose to create me to go to a place of eternal suffering is nothing less than a monster.

    Christian = large ego

    He gave you free will. It's up to you. If you don't believe, that's fine, but then why take the time to post- other than to put down someone's religion. You should go to Iran and try that. You'd get stoned. And not in a good way! :mrgreen:
  • Parachute
    Parachute Posts: 409
    edited June 2011
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    God made me in His image,


    No. Biology made you in your present image via evolution. You share about 99% of the same genes with other primates. We're all from that same line.

    We made God in OUR image. Mind you, we did that way back when we wore white robes and long beards.

    But you know... styles change.


    I agree w/ the rational part, not the weird part- (I'm a chick, not an old man w/ a beard).
    I do believe in evolution, I just think it's devine.

    What an amazing, intricate plan!

    God rocks!
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  • Brisk.
    Brisk. Posts: 11,581
    By the way, there isn't such thing as total freewill as Sam Harris explains...

    "The physiologist Benjamin Libet famously demonstrated that activity in the brain's motor regions can be detected some 300 milliseconds before a person feels that he has decided to move. Another lab recently used fMRI data to show that some "conscious" decisions can be predicted up to 10 seconds before they enter awareness (long before the preparatory motor activity detected by Libet). Clearly, findings of this kind are difficult to reconcile with the sense that one is the conscious source of one's actions. "

    Article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harri ... 69726.html
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Parachute wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    Thread title is an oxymoron.

    I think athiest = large ego.


    Odd. I've always felt that anyone who believes in any religion must have a huge ego to think they're so special that God created them and this world for them and that they're not just some biological accident that put us here via evolution.

    To me, an atheist would be more of a humble person.

    And it always seems to be the ones who bash people over the heads with their bibles who think a bit too much of themselves.

    God made me in His image, just like you. In that sense you and I are special.

    He knew you would deny Him, but He loves you anyway, and will forgive you... All you have to do is ask.

    No matter what happens to me in this life- its gonna be all good in the end... and the end comes to us all.

    Peace, friend.

    :thumbup: :clap::clap:

    Godfather.

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