Your honest thoughts on E.T.'s and U.F.O's

whygohome

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Anyone here heard the Vrillon, From Ashtar Command, BBC Pirated TV Broadcast From 1977?
Someone \ Something \ Some Intelligence "hacked" a total of (i believe) 7 or 8 transmitter towers across Britain in 1977 and overrode the TV signal, interrupting regular broadcasting, to bring a pirated transmission (audio only) from "Vrillon" of "Ashtar Command". The message was about discontinuing nuclear programs, entering an era of world peace, of being warned, of a New Age, etc.

The message is EERILY repetitive of "New Age" ethos, mentions "New Age" specifically, several times, and anyone who has researched the *modern* representations of "New Age" stuff on the internet will know that "Ashtar Command" along with "The Galactic Federation of Light" are very common across the internet as claimed representatives of Alien civilizations.

Do i believe in it?
I believe the technology, at the time - in 1977, to override 7 or 8 broadcast towers simultaneously, was NOT in the hands of a loan "hacker", and if it was from this earth, it was a deliberate "deceit" by New Age plotters in high positions.

Alice Bailey has said in her works from the 30s and 40s that the message of the New Age would be transmitted first through books, first by Madame Blavatsky in the late 19th to 20th century. Then by her, herself, in the early middle part of the 20th century, THEN BY RADIO AFTER 1975.
??? Makes me really wonder about WHERE this broadcast came from.
Bailey REPEATEDLY mentions SIRIUS as the source of intelligence and energy on earth, and says "the 7th initiation takes place in the Masonic Lodge on Sirius".

???
Go look at the channeled messages from "Salusa from Sirius" (aka Mike Quinsey)

What do YOU guys think?

Vrilon, of Ashtar Command - 1977, BBC - Hacked wrote:

This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth. We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments. Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill. Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution. Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return. Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution. This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit. We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the cosmos.

I have never been so scared in my life! An eerie read!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

whygohome wrote:

he still stands wrote:

UFO's; definitely. I've seen them myself... twice. And get this... I was SOBER!

ETs; No. Unless they have figured out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

So who is flying the UFOs?

a UFO can be anything. people just relate it to aliens. a UFO can be anything in the air that can't be identified. like the taco I ate a few hours ago.........in gas form.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

he still stands wrote:

ETs; No. Unless they have figured out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

science is man's way of explaining the world around him. just like religion from eons ago. and really, science, from not too long ago. it's not that much of a stretch to think that we have no fucking clue how the universe operates.

I think if aliens, how we visualize them, had actualy visited us, if they were that highly intelligent, they wouldn't need to hide it. we'd know it. they wouldn't be crashing their spaceship and being operated on by ignorant military doctors.

for all we know god is alien (as opposed to santa's dad). ever see the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror mini-episode The Genesis Tub? It sounds stupid, but it made me think about shit.

DriftingByTheStorm

whygohome wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Anyone here heard the Vrillon, From Ashtar Command, BBC Pirated TV Broadcast From 1977?
Someone \ Something \ Some Intelligence "hacked" a total of (i believe) 7 or 8 transmitter towers across Britain in 1977 and overrode the TV signal, interrupting regular broadcasting, to bring a pirated transmission (audio only) from "Vrillon" of "Ashtar Command". The message was about discontinuing nuclear programs, entering an era of world peace, of being warned, of a New Age, etc.

The message is EERILY repetitive of "New Age" ethos, mentions "New Age" specifically, several times, and anyone who has researched the *modern* representations of "New Age" stuff on the internet will know that "Ashtar Command" along with "The Galactic Federation of Light" are very common across the internet as claimed representatives of Alien civilizations.

Do i believe in it?
I believe the technology, at the time - in 1977, to override 7 or 8 broadcast towers simultaneously, was NOT in the hands of a loan "hacker", and if it was from this earth, it was a deliberate "deceit" by New Age plotters in high positions.

Alice Bailey has said in her works from the 30s and 40s that the message of the New Age would be transmitted first through books, first by Madame Blavatsky in the late 19th to 20th century. Then by her, herself, in the early middle part of the 20th century, THEN BY RADIO AFTER 1975.
??? Makes me really wonder about WHERE this broadcast came from.
Bailey REPEATEDLY mentions SIRIUS as the source of intelligence and energy on earth, and says "the 7th initiation takes place in the Masonic Lodge on Sirius".

???
Go look at the channeled messages from "Salusa from Sirius" (aka Mike Quinsey)

What do YOU guys think?

Vrilon, of Ashtar Command - 1977, BBC - Hacked wrote:

This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth. We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments. Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill. Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution. Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return. Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution. This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit. We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the cosmos.

I have never been so scared in my life! An eerie read!

Seriously, or are you poking fun?
To be honest, i'm not sure WHAT i find more disturbing as a fact for consideration:
a. aliens broadcast this
b. a group of New Age conspirators broadcast this

if actual aliens broadcast this message, it would seem, to me, LESS threatening, because the message would then read as a LEGITIMATE message of peace.

if human New Age conspirators worked, through god knows what insider (inside to the BBC) means to take over 7 or 8 distinct (and separated by many many miles) broadcast towers to broadcast this message, then the implications become altogether different, and throw in to question (even more question than before) the entirety of "new age" thought\authorship as nothing more than a mega-scam for world control, etc. The implication then becomes -- and can very easily be carried forward to current for some even more disturbing inferences -- that the New Age movement is a group of extremely powerful men & women (these are the people that coined the term "New World Order", and own the Eye & Pyramid logos, folks, and claim the Masons as just one of many subgroups of their Over-Arching order) who are working to bring about some HOAXED ALIEN VISITATION (ever heard of the "alleged" "Project Bluebeam"?) \ INVASION as a pretext for a new world order.

As I said previously, the transcript of the Vrilon broadcast reads STRAIGHT from a new age source text.
"The LIGHT of the dawning of the NEW AGE", "spiritual evolution", "peace and GOODWILL" (Bailey REPEATEDLY refers to "the men and women of goodwill" and the Lucis Trust sits on the United Nations Council for World Goodwill), "the higher stages of evolution", "the great awakening", "the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius", "the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments" (a not so indirect reference to the Dark Brotherhood which allegedly possesses men and women in positions of power, primarily), "small groups all over the planet" (could easily be Bailey's "New Group of World Servers" or any number of esoteric groups), "the energy you call money" (Bailey repeatedly refers to money as but a source of "concretized" energy, you can listen to several radio shows about the energy of money directly on the Lucis Trust website), "inner divine self", "the voice of truth within you" ... all of these terms and phrases come, most of them VERBATIM, from Bailey or Blavatsky. It is really a bizarre connection of dots.

markin ball wrote:

So these dudes are this powerful/wise and they decide to broadcast their over just 7 or 8 BBC towers? I think more rational and reasonable explanations exist for whatever happened that day.

Yeah. Like i just said. It may be more rational. But to me it is NO less disturbing. In fact, as mentioned, I think it is MORE disturbing if it did NOT come from ET sources, because it is a direct demonstration of HUMAN intent to deceive fellow human beings with some sort of ET visitation. This is actually a not so uncommon MODERN conspiracy theory (Project Bluebeam) and if this Vrilon broadcast WAS hoaxed by New Age folks, it ads more credence to the Bluebeam conspiracy idea. If you string together these two and then add to it HG Wells War of the Worlds broadcast, it gets even more creepy, as Wells was both a Fabian Socialist (widely regarded as a NWO front organization) and a Freemason. I once did a piece on here about War of the Worlds and the connections between Wells, the Rockefellers, the Masons, the use of the media for psychological conditioning, propaganda experimentation, etc is really rather disturbing. Hell, Wells wrote an entire book, entitled "The New World Order", in which he professed "Countless people will hate the New World Order and will die protesting against it." Throw on top of this, old nutzoid president Reagan's announcement to the UN that what the world really needs to be united is an alien threat and it gets over the top weird.

Call me a manipulator of facts, and say i am writing a farce of reality, but there are a lot of distantly related things that, pooled together, seem to hint at some not so savory plans.

Here's one more to throw on top of it all, go look at the photos of Nazi "UFOs" ... that should make you do a double take. Were they mere secret weapons of the Luftwaffe, or were the Nazis helping to build some hoaxed alien threat invasion force for someone?

I dunno.
Just saying.

markin ball

DBTS,

Have you seen that new Area 51 book? The author says she has a source at area 51 that claims Joseph Mengele, under Stalin's direction "bred" small, alien-look-a-like humans to fly saucer shaped craft into the U.S. to create panic and havoc like inspired by "The War of the Worlds" and that is what actually crashed in Roswell.

Kel Varnsen

Gob wrote:

Other inteligent life in the universe? Well if it's as big as scientists think, I've heard, given chance and probabilty, there are about 10,000 other civilizations out there, so most definitely yes.


As far as E.T. visiting us?... I'm 50/50 on that. I'd like to think they watch over us and have heard some pretty convincing stories, but I'll be 100% when I see it.

Based on probability with the billions of planets out there of course it is hard to say there is no life on other planets. But of course based on the same logic, being that there are billions of planets out there the odds of another alien race right now being advanced enough in their evolution to master space travel (ie not still being fish or apes or even extinct) and then actually finding us out of the billions of plantes out there are pretty slim. Especially when you consider that we have only been using radio transmissions (which have been going out into space) for around 150 years. That means those earliest transmissions are only 150 light years away.

Blockhead

markin ball wrote:

DBTS,

Have you seen that new Area 51 book? The author says she has a source at area 51 that claims Joseph Mengele, under Stalin's direction "bred" small, alien-look-a-like humans to fly saucer shaped craft into the U.S. to create panic and havoc like inspired by "The War of the Worlds" and that is what actually crashed in Roswell.

Markin - I have read the new Area 51 book and it is very good, but I have also read "Paranoia VOL #1 book" there was an article in there about a mans father who was clean-up (1st responder) at the roswell incident and about how the kids father brought home pieces of the craft and layed them out on the kitchen table, It was a fascinating read, i recommend any who wants to learn about the roswell indicent to read that, as it is probably the most accurate. But we will never know...

My thouhgts on E.T.'s and UFO's is that, its a mathamatic fact that there are other life forms. But I always though of aliens/E.T.'s are just in another dimension living at the same "time" we are. We can only see in 3D and so far with string theory we have come up with 10 Dimensions (maybe 11 now), So I think when people see E.T.'s /UFO's it may be just a slip/tear in time and for whatever reason we are allowed to see those extra dimensions (time being one of them). I mean we all listen to radio, but has anybody seen radio waves, Ultra-violet, X-rays, Gamma waves? Our human vision can only detect a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, maybe other life forms are only able to be viewed in those waves/spectrum. It is thought that in principle the spectrum is infinite. There is so much out there that we can't see/detect it makes me wonder what reality really is. Is reality something our mind has just constructed...
I do think that "most" UFO's today are Military test craft though...
Quoting my favorite show "I want to belive"

Kel Varnsen

Blockhead wrote:

I do think that "most" UFO's today are Military test craft though...

Not just military. My boss works for another company that does development of basically blimps that go high into the atsmophere and rotate to generate electricity. He been involved in a bunch of testing of these things, and according to him a bunch of their test blimps have ended up on youtube as UFO's.

Blockhead

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

I do think that "most" UFO's today are Military test craft though...

Not just military. My boss works for another company that does development of basically blimps that go high into the atsmophere and rotate to generate electricity. He been involved in a bunch of testing of these things, and according to him a bunch of their test blimps have ended up on youtube as UFO's.

haha thats awesome...We are always going to see what we want to see...