Your honest thoughts on E.T.'s and U.F.O's

acoustic guy

I am not looking the (well space is so big, we cant be the ONLY ones out here).
What I mean is, all the sightings year after year. Sure many might be BS, but do think many are real?

I think there are definitely Aliens here and out there. I believe we have things happening right under our noses.

Ever see this movie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso

JTH

My honest thought? 32 years on and Strangers in the Night holds up as one of the best live albums of all time.

DriftingByTheStorm

Anyone here heard the Vrillon, From Ashtar Command, BBC Pirated TV Broadcast From 1977?
Someone \ Something \ Some Intelligence "hacked" a total of (i believe) 7 or 8 transmitter towers across Britain in 1977 and overrode the TV signal, interrupting regular broadcasting, to bring a pirated transmission (audio only) from "Vrillon" of "Ashtar Command". The message was about discontinuing nuclear programs, entering an era of world peace, of being warned, of a New Age, etc.

The message is EERILY repetitive of "New Age" ethos, mentions "New Age" specifically, several times, and anyone who has researched the *modern* representations of "New Age" stuff on the internet will know that "Ashtar Command" along with "The Galactic Federation of Light" are very common across the internet as claimed representatives of Alien civilizations.

Do i believe in it?
I believe the technology, at the time - in 1977, to override 7 or 8 broadcast towers simultaneously, was NOT in the hands of a loan "hacker", and if it was from this earth, it was a deliberate "deceit" by New Age plotters in high positions.

Alice Bailey has said in her works from the 30s and 40s that the message of the New Age would be transmitted first through books, first by Madame Blavatsky in the late 19th to 20th century. Then by her, herself, in the early middle part of the 20th century, THEN BY RADIO AFTER 1975.
??? Makes me really wonder about WHERE this broadcast came from.
Bailey REPEATEDLY mentions SIRIUS as the source of intelligence and energy on earth, and says "the 7th initiation takes place in the Masonic Lodge on Sirius".

???
Go look at the channeled messages from "Salusa from Sirius" (aka Mike Quinsey)

What do YOU guys think?

Vrilon, of Ashtar Command - 1977, BBC - Hacked wrote:

This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth. We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments. Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill. Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution. Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return. Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution. This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit. We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the cosmos.

LikeAnOcean

Other inteligent life in the universe? Well if it's as big as scientists think, I've heard, given chance and probabilty, there are about 10,000 other civilizations out there, so most definitely yes.


As far as E.T. visiting us?... I'm 50/50 on that. I'd like to think they watch over us and have heard some pretty convincing stories, but I'll be 100% when I see it.

DriftingByTheStorm

This is one of the most convincing "cases" I have heard of, bar none.
The Phoenix Lights

TRULY BIZZARE \ Disturbing \ Amazing \ Confusing.

Ashtar Command, Come In, Ashtar Command

But then there is This?
who knows.

whygohome

Just like "God", ghosts, and Bigfoot: I won't believe it until I see it.

whygohome

Gob wrote:

Other inteligent life in the universe? Well if it's as big as scientists think, I've heard, given chance and probabilty, there are about 10,000 other civilizations out there, so most definitely yes.


As far as E.T. visiting us?... I'm 50/50 on that. I'd like to think they watch over us and have heard some pretty convincing stories, but I'll be 100% when I see it.

I hope there is intelligent life somewhere....it sure as hell is not on Earth

Godfather.

JTH wrote:

My honest thought? 32 years on and Strangers in the Night holds up as one of the best live albums of all time.

WAHOOOO!!! man bro you nailed it right there..just freakin WOW !!! great album I have it myself.
have you heard a band called Alcatraz and their album "live sentense" ..in my humble opinion a close runner up.

Godfather.

Godfather.

but I still call bullshit on the UFO's from other planets/galaxy's...sorry I just don't believe it.

Godfather.

he still stands

UFO's; definitely. I've seen them myself... twice. And get this... I was SOBER!

ETs; No. Unless they have figured out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

Jeanwah

We're pretty arrogant to think that we could be the only intelligent life in the universe...

he still stands

Jeanwah wrote:

We're pretty arrogant to think that we could be the only intelligent life in the universe...

for sure, couldn't agree more, and so does almost every cosmologist. But transporting life (physically) from one star system to another is impossible. It would take hundreds of years AT LEAST just to get to the nearest star system, and probably thousands to get to the nearest star system with intelligent life. The only way it could be extraterrestrial is if aliens found a way to defy the laws of the universe as we know them.

I think that it may be possible to contact others by entering altered states of consciousness, but I don't think that would mean weird lights in the sky. Throughout the ages, people have encountered "beings," angels, aliens, elves, and other "entities" by entering these states. I think that what people are seeing is real and is either a being of some sort living in hyperspace - from another corner of the univverse - or people from the past or present. ok, i'll stop being all ethereal and new agey...

whygohome

he still stands wrote:

UFO's; definitely. I've seen them myself... twice. And get this... I was SOBER!

ETs; No. Unless they have figured out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

So who is flying the UFOs?

Jeanwah

he still stands wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

We're pretty arrogant to think that we could be the only intelligent life in the universe...

for sure, couldn't agree more, and so does almost every cosmologist. But transporting life (physically) from one star system to another is impossible. It would take hundreds of years AT LEAST just to get to the nearest star system, and probably thousands to get to the nearest star system with intelligent life. The only way it could be extraterrestrial is if aliens found a way to defy the laws of the universe as we know them.

I understand what you're saying, but who are we to say that it's impossible? That's saying we're the most intelligent being out there. There very may well be beings who are much more intelligent than humans.

JTH

Godfather. wrote:

have you heard a band called Alcatraz and their album "live sentense" ..in my humble opinion a close runner up.

Yeah, Alcatrazz -- with a young Yngwie Malmsteen on guitar...

Apparently a re-formed version of the band has been playing the occasional show for the last few years.

Jason P

I agree with He Still Stands that the odds of an E.T. visiting Earth are extremely low unless a race of E.T.s have found a way to distort physics or find a way to bend space and time. And if there was a race that had the intellectual know-how to do this, then they would have to find Earth (we sit alone in a large quadrant of space. Then they would have to visit us within a several thousand year span of recorded history which further decreases the odds.

The only way I see an E.T. having possibly landed on earth is if it was a bacteria stowed away in an asteroid or comet. I doubt an advanced race would travel 1,000 light years or figure out how to bend space just to do some anal probing and turn a few cows inside out.

Godfather.

Jason P wrote:

I agree with He Still Stands that the odds of an E.T. visiting Earth are extremely low unless a race of E.T.s have found a way to distort physics or find a way to bend space and time. And if there was a race that had the intellectual know-how to do this, then they would have to find Earth (we sit alone in a large quadrant of space. Then they would have to visit us within a several thousand year span of recorded history which further decreases the odds.

The only way I see an E.T. having possibly landed on earth is if it was a bacteria stowed away in an asteroid or comet. I doubt an advanced race would travel 1,000 light years or figure out how to bend space just to do some anal probing and turn a few cows inside out.

AGREED !!!!

Godfather.

Godfather.

whygohome wrote:

he still stands wrote:

UFO's; definitely. I've seen them myself... twice. And get this... I was SOBER!

ETs; No. Unless they have figured out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

So who is flying the UFOs?

a few militarys... all over the world.

Godfather.

LikeAnOcean

he still stands wrote:

out a way to defy Newtonian physics, it is just not possible for anything or anyone to travel between star systems, let alone galaxies.

Worm holes.. different dimensions... There are ideas on different dimensions, bending space, so on...


If they could travel great distances, we wouldn't understand it anyways. We really aren't that smart otherwise we'd be visiting other galaxies. We only understand what our 5 senses allow us to.

LikeAnOcean

Jason P wrote:

I agree with He Still Stands that the odds of an E.T. visiting Earth are extremely low unless a race of E.T.s have found a way to distort physics or find a way to bend space and time. And if there was a race that had the intellectual know-how to do this, then they would have to find Earth (we sit alone in a large quadrant of space. Then they would have to visit us within a several thousand year span of recorded history which further decreases the odds.

The only way I see an E.T. having possibly landed on earth is if it was a bacteria stowed away in an asteroid or comet. I doubt an advanced race would travel 1,000 light years or figure out how to bend space just to do some anal probing and turn a few cows inside out.

Maybe they put us here, and that's how they found us. What if we are an experiment. They found a planet with life, earth, took the most inteligent life at the time and added their genes to it and are monitering how it evolved? Maybe we are half pre-historic hairy man and half alien? Who knows.


Gotta keep an open mind... I don't think they are anally probing us. I think that's a common nightmare people have.

markin ball

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Anyone here heard the Vrillon, From Ashtar Command, BBC Pirated TV Broadcast From 1977?
Someone \ Something \ Some Intelligence "hacked" a total of (i believe) 7 or 8 transmitter towers across Britain in 1977 and overrode the TV signal, interrupting regular broadcasting, to bring a pirated transmission (audio only) from "Vrillon" of "Ashtar Command". The message was about discontinuing nuclear programs, entering an era of world peace, of being warned, of a New Age, etc.

The message is EERILY repetitive of "New Age" ethos, mentions "New Age" specifically, several times, and anyone who has researched the *modern* representations of "New Age" stuff on the internet will know that "Ashtar Command" along with "The Galactic Federation of Light" are very common across the internet as claimed representatives of Alien civilizations.

Do i believe in it?
I believe the technology, at the time - in 1977, to override 7 or 8 broadcast towers simultaneously, was NOT in the hands of a loan "hacker", and if it was from this earth, it was a deliberate "deceit" by New Age plotters in high positions.

Alice Bailey has said in her works from the 30s and 40s that the message of the New Age would be transmitted first through books, first by Madame Blavatsky in the late 19th to 20th century. Then by her, herself, in the early middle part of the 20th century, THEN BY RADIO AFTER 1975.
??? Makes me really wonder about WHERE this broadcast came from.
Bailey REPEATEDLY mentions SIRIUS as the source of intelligence and energy on earth, and says "the 7th initiation takes place in the Masonic Lodge on Sirius".

???
Go look at the channeled messages from "Salusa from Sirius" (aka Mike Quinsey)

What do YOU guys think?

Vrilon, of Ashtar Command - 1977, BBC - Hacked wrote:

This is the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth. We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disaster which threatens your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments. Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. All your weapons of evil must be removed. The time for conflict is now past and the race of which you are a part may proceed to the higher stages of its evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill. Small groups all over the planet are learning this, and exist to pass on the light of the dawning New Age to you all. You are free to accept or reject their teachings, but only those who learn to live in peace will pass to the higher realms of spiritual evolution. Hear now the voice of Vrillon, a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. Be aware also that there are many false prophets and guides operating in your world. They will suck your energy from you - the energy you call money and will put it to evil ends and give you worthless dross in return. Your inner divine self will protect you from this. You must learn to be sensitive to the voice within that can tell you what is truth, and what is confusion, chaos and untruth. Learn to listen to the voice of truth which is within you and you will lead yourselves onto the path of evolution. This is our message to our dear friends. We have watched you growing for many years as you too have watched our lights in your skies. You know now that we are here, and that there are more beings on and around your Earth than your scientists admit. We are deeply concerned about you and your path towards the light and will do all we can to help you. Have no fear, seek only to know yourselves, and live in harmony with the ways of your planet Earth. We of the Ashtar Galactic Command thank you for your attention. We are now leaving the plane of your existence. May you be blessed by the supreme love and truth of the cosmos.

So these dudes are this powerful/wise and they decide to broadcast their over just 7 or 8 BBC towers? I think more rational and reasonable explanations exist for whatever happened that day.