begs the question - do masturbatory aids count as cheating?

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    RKCNDY wrote:

    well, weiner texted the pic of himself to a girl he did not know or had met before. (customer and stripper)

    He saw her pic and saw what he liked (basically like porn)

    he then texted a pic of himself and thought it was just to her, hoping for (...?)-sorta like a guy would probably make an obscene gesture towards a stripper to get her to come over to give him a lap dance.

    I don't know what pics she posted of herself (on her twitter page), but what if he looked at her pictures in a 'certain' way? (oogling/lusting)

    is that cheating? or is it cheating when she replies? or if he is constantly trying to contact her?

    I just read an article where weiner's wife sees 'nothing wrong' with the entire 'scandal', so she seems to not care.

    (BTW, some of the local media outlets here are reporting that the student was voted 'most likely to be involved in a government scandal' by her peers)
    But that involves two people! You need TWO people to cheat.. When I watch porn I am not communicating with another girl. There is no one else being intimate with me. The only thing that's cheating is my hand! My girlfriend does NOT care and I could care less if my girlfriend did it. There is no other third person involved. You need another person for it to be cheating. Eye candy is not cheating.

    If you feel attraction every time you see a pretty person, is that cheating? No! You need two humans to make a relationship.. I don't care how intuative my Mac is, it does not count as a person. :lol:
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Gob wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:

    well, weiner texted the pic of himself to a girl he did not know or had met before. (customer and stripper)

    He saw her pic and saw what he liked (basically like porn)

    he then texted a pic of himself and thought it was just to her, hoping for (...?)-sorta like a guy would probably make an obscene gesture towards a stripper to get her to come over to give him a lap dance.

    I don't know what pics she posted of herself (on her twitter page), but what if he looked at her pictures in a 'certain' way? (oogling/lusting)

    is that cheating? or is it cheating when she replies? or if he is constantly trying to contact her?

    I just read an article where weiner's wife sees 'nothing wrong' with the entire 'scandal', so she seems to not care.

    (BTW, some of the local media outlets here are reporting that the student was voted 'most likely to be involved in a government scandal' by her peers)
    But that involves two people! You need TWO people to cheat.. When I watch porn I am not communicating with another girl. There is no one else being intimate with me. The only thing that's cheating is my hand! My girlfriend does NOT care and I could care less if my girlfriend did it. There is no other third person involved. You need another person for it to be cheating. Eye candy is not cheating.

    If you feel attraction every time you see a pretty person, is that cheating? No! You need two humans to make a relationship.. I don't care how intuative my Mac is, it does not count as a person. :lol:

    I guess you didn't read my entire post....{sigh}
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    RKCNDY wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:

    well, weiner texted the pic of himself to a girl he did not know or had met before. (customer and stripper)

    He saw her pic and saw what he liked (basically like porn)

    he then texted a pic of himself and thought it was just to her, hoping for (...?)-sorta like a guy would probably make an obscene gesture towards a stripper to get her to come over to give him a lap dance.

    I don't know what pics she posted of herself (on her twitter page), but what if he looked at her pictures in a 'certain' way? (oogling/lusting)

    is that cheating? or is it cheating when she replies? or if he is constantly trying to contact her?

    I just read an article where weiner's wife sees 'nothing wrong' with the entire 'scandal', so she seems to not care.

    (BTW, some of the local media outlets here are reporting that the student was voted 'most likely to be involved in a government scandal' by her peers)
    But that involves two people! You need TWO people to cheat.. When I watch porn I am not communicating with another girl. There is no one else being intimate with me. The only thing that's cheating is my hand! My girlfriend does NOT care and I could care less if my girlfriend did it. There is no other third person involved. You need another person for it to be cheating. Eye candy is not cheating.

    If you feel attraction every time you see a pretty person, is that cheating? No! You need two humans to make a relationship.. I don't care how intuative my Mac is, it does not count as a person. :lol:

    I guess you didn't read my entire post....{sigh}
    I did. And I don't try to communicate with porn stars.


    It's about communication. He was seeking out this girl. Wether she responded or not, it was between two people. Maybe the other doesn't respond, but one has intentions of communication.


    If my girlfriend told me she was masturbating to Brad Pitt all night, I would not care. If she told me she mailed him a letter of affection I would be upset.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    No. No they do not.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    I think the OP's original question is revealing. The original question is casting these other women in the Weiner tale as merely "masturbatory aids." They aren't people to the OP. That's the real problem with this entire situation.

    He is using the excuse that "he was never in the same room with them and never met them in person" to make it seem like they aren't important and they don't exist even though he was having phone sex with a few of them. As if that makes it all okay and not a problem.

    And here on a PJ message board they are being called merely sexual objects (ie masturbatory aids) in a hypothetical question about cheating. How dismissive and disrespectful of another person can everyone be?

    There's something really gross about all of this! :(
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  • pjfan31pjfan31 Posts: 7,331
    I love to masticate...
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  • conmanconman Posts: 7,493
    pjfan31 wrote:
    I love to masticate...
    i believe you're looking for the food thread...








    ibtl
  • pjfan31pjfan31 Posts: 7,331
    conman wrote:
    pjfan31 wrote:
    I love to masticate...
    i believe you're looking for the food thread...








    ibtl

    :? :? How awkward.... and embarrassing.... :oops: :oops:
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  • conmanconman Posts: 7,493
    unless you love to masticate while you masturbate
  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    Gob wrote:


    If my girlfriend told me she was masturbating to Brad Pitt all night, I would not care. If she told me she mailed him a letter of affection I would be upset.

    so basically, if a fan of an actor/actress/band member writes to their idol and says how much they admire them and think they are good looking, you would consider it cheating?
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