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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    RKCNDY wrote:
    weekly...taxes on $1.9m lump sum would only leave me with about $1m, which I could make in about 7.69 years (give or take a few years) with the weekly payments.

    if you are going to tax the 1.9, you might want to think about taxing the 2500 :?


    exactly, but I am thinking that the annual taxes on the $2500 per week might be less than the tax if you took the whole $1.9 million in one year?


    agreed.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    having said that, $2500 a week for life is not bad too. I am 42, so in my other calculation, the lump sum would last 26.25 years. I am 42 years old, so that would get me to about 69. Lets say I live to be 84, then the $2500 per week would add up to be $5,460,000, again forgetting about taxes for the moment. Not a bad deal.

    In that situation I would keep working and use the $2500 per week to pay everything off, then save, probably figure out a target number to hit so that savings plus the $2500/week would make a comfy retirement or be able to change careers.

    Just the flexibility of $2500 a week would be incredible. I'd work, but my wife and I wouldn't work 40+ hrs a week like we are now. You could do whatever job you wanted to do, how much you wanted, and not really worry about what it pays. The difference of what we make now, can quickly pay off debt (school/car), and most of the rest can be invested.
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    Weekly... I'm betting I live longer than 16 more years, and even if I didn't I can up my life insurance a bit to cover that chance for my family.

    The $1.9 upfront would be great, but I think it would be easy to get carried away over time and go through that. With $2500 a week, that is a $130,000 yearly salary for the rest of your life. I'm not a tax expert, but I would think that, you'd pay a lower percentage based on that salary, than $1.9 million in one tax year.


    yep, you are thinking the same things I am. This is why tax accountants get the big bucks, to figure this stuff out.
  • tvismyfriendtvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    We got this up where I live, but it's only $1000 a week for 25 years.
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    We got this up where I live, but it's only $1000 a week for 25 years.


    i've seen that one on tv. if i were to play and win that, i would keep working and use all those dollars for fun
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    The 81 wrote:
    We got this up where I live, but it's only $1000 a week for 25 years.


    i've seen that one on tv. if i were to play and win that, i would keep working and use all those dollars for fun


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    The 81: "Can I have that all in $1 bills please?"
  • GraySaturdayGraySaturday Posts: 2,878
    JTH wrote:
    1.9 buys you a pretty nice single family house here in the city.
    Ummm... Pretty nice? I live in a "pretty nice" single-family house (4BR/3BA) in the city and it isn't worth ANYWHERE NEAR 2 million dollars.


    It was more like "preeeeeety nice" I know there are awesome houses for well under that. Well under 1 million even. Just thinking of some that I've seen for 1.9, those were pretty sweet.
  • conmanconman Posts: 7,493
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    We got this up where I live, but it's only $1000 a week for 25 years.


    i've seen that one on tv. if i were to play and win that, i would keep working and use all those dollars for fun


    Lottery Official: "Congratulations to The 81 on winning the $1,000 a week for life lottery"

    The 81: "Can I have that all in $1 bills please?"
    :lol:
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    We got this up where I live, but it's only $1000 a week for 25 years.


    i've seen that one on tv. if i were to play and win that, i would keep working and use all those dollars for fun


    Lottery Official: "Congratulations to The 81 on winning the $1,000 a week for life lottery"

    The 81: "Can I have that all in $1 bills please?"

    well played. :lol:
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  • JTHJTH Posts: 3,238
    JTH wrote:
    1.9 buys you a pretty nice single family house here in the city.
    Ummm... Pretty nice? I live in a "pretty nice" single-family house (4BR/3BA) in the city and it isn't worth ANYWHERE NEAR 2 million dollars.


    It was more like "preeeeeety nice" I know there are awesome houses for well under that. Well under 1 million even. Just thinking of some that I've seen for 1.9, those were pretty sweet.
    Heh. Gotcha. It's all about the inflection.
  • dr0ptheleashdr0ptheleash Posts: 1,264
    I'd choose the 2500 weekly.

    According to the ever-reliable wiki site that charts the average American woman's life expectancy, I'm due to live almost 60 more years, and 60 years x 52 weeks per year = 3120 weeks, x $2,500 = $7,800,000 not including taxes.

    7.8 > 1.9

    But who knows, may get squished by a bus later today or tomorrow. I'd still take the weekly. :lol:
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    Lottery Official: "Congratulations to The 81 on winning the $1,000 a week for life lottery"

    The 81: "Can I have that all in $1 bills please?"

    well played. :lol:

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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    edited June 2011
    I'd choose the 2500 weekly.

    According to the ever-reliable wiki site that charts the average American woman's life expectancy, I'm due to live almost 60 more years, and 60 years x 52 weeks per year = 3120 weeks, x $2,500 = $7,800,000 not including taxes.

    7.8 > 1.9

    But who knows, may get squished by a bus later today or tomorrow. I'd still take the weekly. :lol:


    yeah, but 1.9 over 60 years @ 5% is 35.5M

    if you assume taxes of 50% on that 1.9, your investment is 950K, which over 60 years at 5% is 17.8M. at 10% it becomes 289M.





    now if we assume taxes at 30% tax on each years increase.

    950,000 * 10% = 95,000.

    tax of 95,000 * 30% = 28,500

    net income = 95,000 - 28,500 = 66,500

    ending balance after one year is 950,000 + 66,500 = 1,016,500

    at the end of 60 years you would have 55M. this all assuems you don't spend any money

    if you start withdrawing 100K after year 10 you end with 14.3M

    now if you use the same rules on the 2500 per week, aka 130K per year and save everything for the first 10 years and than start spending 100K per year in year 10, you end up with 33.3M

    this all assumes my math is right.....
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    The 81 wrote:
    I'd choose the 2500 weekly.

    According to the ever-reliable wiki site that charts the average American woman's life expectancy, I'm due to live almost 60 more years, and 60 years x 52 weeks per year = 3120 weeks, x $2,500 = $7,800,000 not including taxes.

    7.8 > 1.9

    But who knows, may get squished by a bus later today or tomorrow. I'd still take the weekly. :lol:


    yeah, but 1.9 over 60 years @ 5% is 35.5M

    if you assume taxes of 50% on that 1.9, your investment is 950K, which over 60 years at 5% is 17.8M. at 10% it becomes 289M.



    now if we assume taxes at 30% tax on each years increase.

    950,000 * 10% = 95,000.

    tax of 95,000 * 30% = 28,500

    net income = 95,000 - 28,500 = 66,500

    ending balance after one year is 950,000 + 66,500 = 1,016,500

    at the end of 60 years you would have 55M. this all assuems you don't spend any money


    pretty fast calculations there when it involves a potential sugar momma, huh?
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    pretty fast calculations there when it involves a potential sugar momma, huh?

    excel rules
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    The 81 wrote:
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    pretty fast calculations there when it involves a potential sugar momma, huh?

    excel rules

    totally.

    Word sucks bad, hate when I have to use that
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    pretty fast calculations there when it involves a potential sugar momma, huh?

    excel rules

    totally.

    Word sucks bad, hate when I have to use that

    Hey now, Word can do some nifty things if you know where to find them.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    dcfaithful wrote:
    Hey now, Word can do some nifty things if you know where to find them.


    it can write letters...whoooo
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,151
    Weekly $2500. I'm only 25- I better be able to collect more than 1.9 mil in the long run.
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    Hey now, Word can do some nifty things if you know where to find them.


    it can write letters...whoooo

    ...and help you write correctly. Take note, 81. :twisted:

    Plus, for idiots who suck with numbers like me, it beats the shit out of Excel. :lol:
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    dcfaithful wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    Hey now, Word can do some nifty things if you know where to find them.


    it can write letters...whoooo

    ...and help you write correctly. Take note, 81. :twisted:

    Plus, for idiots who suck with numbers like me, it beats the shit out of Excel. :lol:

    :lol: trust me, i have F7 anything important....forum...not so much

    how can word beat the shit out of excel for numbers? excel was built for numbers.
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    :lol: trust me, i have F7 anything important....forum...not so much

    how can word beat the shit out of excel for numbers? excel was built for numbers.

    I should've clarified... I meant for me it is a better program, because it does not use numbers nearly as much as Excel does. I've always been stronger at writing and such as opposed to mathematics.

    I can use Excel, but I'm a failure at formulas.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    dcfaithful wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    :lol: trust me, i have F7 anything important....forum...not so much

    how can word beat the shit out of excel for numbers? excel was built for numbers.

    I should've clarified... I meant for me it is a better program, because it does not use numbers nearly as much as Excel does. I've always been stronger at writing and such as opposed to mathematics.

    I can use Excel, but I'm a failure at formulas.


    =if(problem=number,excel,word) :P
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    The 81 wrote:
    :lol: trust me, i have F7 anything important....forum...not so much

    how can word beat the shit out of excel for numbers? excel was built for numbers.

    I should've clarified... I meant for me it is a better program, because it does not use numbers nearly as much as Excel does. I've always been stronger at writing and such as opposed to mathematics.

    I can use Excel, but I'm a failure at formulas.


    =if(problem=number,excel,word) :P

    See... I'm too stumped to even laugh. :cry:
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    edited June 2011
    =if(problem=65000+rowsofdata,access,if(problem=presentation,powerpoint,if(problem=number,excel,word)))

    :P
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    lump sum...i'll invest it better than any govt entity
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    =if(problem=65000+rowsofdata,access,if(problem=presentation,powerpoint,if(problem=number,excel,word)))

    :P

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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    =if(user=dc,fail,success)
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    The 81 wrote:
    =if(user=dc,fail,success)

    :lol:

    Good work.
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 Posts: 12,632
    The 81 wrote:
    =if(problem=65000+rowsofdata,access,if(problem=presentation,powerpoint,if(problem=number,excel,word)))

    :P


    that's classic. that I understand. My girlfriend is a lawyer, so she lives in Word, I live in Excel and Access
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