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  • most definitely yes... NIN can release 2 full CDs for free to ANYONE and radiohead did the same with "in rainbows" and we cant get 2 songs for free after paying an annual membership??... i realize that statements gonna come off as greedy or entitled but i dont really get it... PJ usually stays on the cutting edge... the WWS single was free, no? lets not backtrack... all us freaks are obviously gonna buy the whole stone CD and the "all the way" 45 when we get the chance to so theyre still going to get their $
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  • I think it all comes down to that PJ/10C are going to do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of what NIN or Radiohead do. So you either pay for the song or forget about it. You're acting like that one bum uncle everybody has that borrows money and thinks you shouldn't ask him to pay you back just because he's family. PJ doesn't owe you shit.
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  • PJ doesn't owe you shit.Thanks BOE

    Get a grip,,

    entitled to your entitlements are you?
  • piomba
    piomba Posts: 103
    Brain Of E wrote:
    I think it all comes down to that PJ/10C are going to do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of what NIN or Radiohead do. So you either pay for the song or forget about it. You're acting like that one bum uncle everybody has that borrows money and thinks you shouldn't ask him to pay you back just because he's family. PJ doesn't owe you shit.

    Who, Uncle Sam?

    And I do think that PJ does own me some Deep Magazines... It amazing how everything gets totally blown out of proportion here.

    I personally think that the philosophy of giving away free tracks (especially to your fanclub members) is a good one. When all is said and done, the money their going to make off the sale of these songs is just going to pay for the staff that manages the sales of the songs themselves.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    sgossard3 wrote:
    most definitely yes... NIN can release 2 full CDs for free to ANYONE and radiohead did the same with "in rainbows" and we cant get 2 songs for free after paying an annual membership??... i realize that statements gonna come off as greedy or entitled but i dont really get it... PJ usually stays on the cutting edge... the WWS single was free, no? lets not backtrack... all us freaks are obviously gonna buy the whole stone CD and the "all the way" 45 when we get the chance to so theyre still going to get their $

    Every band does things differently.

    NIN had "premium" fan club memberships that cost $75, and Radiohead fans usually have to stay up all night to have even a very miniscule chance to get fan club tickets (since they don't announce the actual sale time).
  • I would say of all the bands, including PJ, NIN has their shit together the most as far as releasing music. They have options available for everyone, depending on what they want...you want it for free, get it for free, you want the cd, buy the cd, you want a limited edition signed copy of the vinyl? here you are. They are, in my opinion, at the forefront of where bands at this level should be. Too bad their music isn't as good as PJ's.

    PJ can certainly charge whatever they like...but it feels like other bands are figuring out new, better ways to tackle the challenges of releasing music in this era. PJ makes me feel a little nickle and dimed. A philosophical debate, more than a monetary one.
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    NIN had "premium" fan club memberships that cost $75.

    That is not quite correct - it WAS $60, and it doesn't exist anymore. Anyone can join what is going on over there now.

    Back to topic - its 99 CENTS. I have more change than that rolling around in a little drawer in my car. Just pay it if you want the song! My only suggestion would be to institute paypal as a payment option so I don't have to get up and go find my credit card.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    JaneNY wrote:
    That is not quite correct - it WAS $60, and it doesn't exist anymore. Anyone can join what is going on over there now.

    Back to topic - its 99 CENTS. I have more change than that rolling around in a little drawer in my car. Just pay it if you want the song! My only suggestion would be to institute paypal as a payment option so I don't have to get up and go find my credit card.

    I stand corrected...it was $60.....did they do anything for those that had unexpired memberships when Trent abolished the "paying" fan club?
  • sgossard3 wrote:
    most definitely yes... NIN can release 2 full CDs for free to ANYONE and radiohead did the same with "in rainbows" and we cant get 2 songs for free after paying an annual membership??... i realize that statements gonna come off as greedy or entitled but i dont really get it... PJ usually stays on the cutting edge... the WWS single was free, no? lets not backtrack... all us freaks are obviously gonna buy the whole stone CD and the "all the way" 45 when we get the chance to so theyre still going to get their $


    Metallica released 3 or 4 tracks off Death Magnetic for free before it came out. You cited NIN and Radiohead. I really don't care about the buck but seriously..Stone and Eddie can't afford to provide the tracks for free? At least to paying 10 club members.

    Again let me restate...I DON'T CARE about the buck and i, nor the original poster, are bitching. It's more about the principle. I completely understand their need for money after raising ticket prices to $77 though.
  • Metallica released 3 or 4 tracks off Death Magnetic for free before it came out. You cited NIN and Radiohead. I really don't care about the buck but seriously..Stone and Eddie can't afford to provide the tracks for free? At least to paying 10 club members.

    Again let me restate...I DON'T CARE about the buck and i, nor the original poster, are bitching. It's more about the principle. I completely understand their need for money after raising ticket prices to $77 though.
    agreed... i paid the fuckin money and got them... im just saying... in both cases its something im gonna pay for again to get the physical copy so it seems a little redundant... and besides, i prefaced my complaint by saying it would sound "entitled" thereby making me immune to any criticism... if you, as a loyal and regular costumer, pay a prostitute for sex and she only gives a you handjob then you have a right to complain... not that im calling 10C a prostitute ;):p
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  • I can afford the .99cents
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  • piomba
    piomba Posts: 103
    Metallica released 3 or 4 tracks off Death Magnetic for free before it came out. You cited NIN and Radiohead. I really don't care about the buck but seriously..Stone and Eddie can't afford to provide the tracks for free? At least to paying 10 club members.

    Again let me restate...I DON'T CARE about the buck and i, nor the original poster, are bitching. It's more about the principle. I completely understand their need for money after raising ticket prices to $77 though.

    indeed.