I must admit that I am pretty ignorant on this topic. But I do believe Obama to be a liar and a crook. So it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it is a fake. But I think there are much more important issues than where he was born for which he should be held accountable.
I kind of agree with Lizard, but I do think the timing with Osama was a bit odd...but, at this point, who cares?? He's almost served his term...'they''re always going to debate this.. he's already been president..they can't rescind that. Can't negate the past few years. He did his 'job', I guess. As has been previously stated, it doesn't seem as though he could have even been nominated for the presidency were he not a US citizen. But, again, the timing is weird (Osama, re-election campaign)...although I don't doubt his citizenry, the timing seems a bit of some type of ploy..and Donald Trump comes to mind, also.. it's just like the 'powers that be' waited until the sh*t was almost hitting the fan.
p.s...EDIT: Admittedly, I hadn't even read this article before I made this post, and I just retroactively clicked on the link and saw Donald Trump's name in the first paragraph....had no idea. :?
EDIT continued...furthermore, if the FBI has irrefutable 'proof' as is stated in this article, how in the world did he ever become president, regardless of his 'camp'??!?! I can only hope this is not true...hype...otherwise, it is a very sad state of affairs for this country...I can't imagine how or WHY the accomplishment of his presidency would trump such an issue.
aside from all the rude comments.. has anybody heard of the web site that this story came from ?
Embleve, the timing was a bit odd for the release of his birth cert but as you said it really don't matter,can you imagine the historical scandal that it would cause if it was a fake ?
I just thought the story was funny.
ya know just about this whole board was all up in obamas ass saying what a great guy he was and come to find out he's just another President with as many secretes and lies as the last one and probably the next also.
sometimes ya just gotta laugh and move on to see what the next election will bring.
ya know just about this whole board was all up in obamas ass saying what a great guy he was and come to find out he's just another President with as many secretes and lies as the last one and probably the next also. sometimes ya just gotta laugh and move on to see what the next election will bring.
Godfather.
Says the guy who again brought of the birth certificate issue about 2 years after the majority of the country quit caring about it.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
ya know just about this whole board was all up in obamas ass saying what a great guy he was and come to find out he's just another President with as many secretes and lies as the last one and probably the next also. sometimes ya just gotta laugh and move on to see what the next election will bring.
Godfather.
Says the guy who again brought of the birth certificate issue about 2 years after the majority of the country quit caring about it.
is that guy beating that horse from the grassy knoll?
seriously...who CARES? is this the real concern...this is exactly why they didn't release a picture of bin laden...because the fringe couldn't handle it and would be screaming fake forever
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- Joe Rogan
aside from all the rude comments.. has anybody heard of the web site that this story came from ?
Embleve, the timing was a bit odd for the release of his birth cert but as you said it really don't matter,can you imagine the historical scandal that it would cause if it was a fake ?
I just thought the story was funny.
Godfather.
nope, never heard of the site. And yes, it would be a huge historical scandal if it was a fake. (but I don't think it is).
Barry da Bombers the shit and is a ok in my books. Its not a fake.
I only wish Schwarzeneggar was born in the states so that big burly bastard could run....you'd all vote him in too then act all surprised when his 5o love children came out of the woodwork.
>>>>
>
...a lover and a fighter.
"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
the question people should ask is: if this was a white president from the republican party would i believe this same shit?
race card ? same as a birth cert ? come on man even the some of the obama fans on here are pissed at em and I don't think his race has anything to do with it, thats like saying all the bush bashers hate him cause he's white and from texas.
the question people should ask is: if this was a white president from the republican party would i believe this same shit?
The parameters of this theoretical question would have to include a white presidential canidate that was born in the U.S. and then spent his childhood growing up in a foreign country. Let's use the Governator as an example.
If Schwarzenegger was theoretically born in Alaska and then spent his childhood in Austria, I believe that their would be the same percentage minority of conspiracy theorists on the Dem's side that wouldn't let the issue drop if he was in the presidential race ... especially if his handlers pussy-footed around the issue for nearly three years and wouldn't allow Arnie to directly address the issue himself.
Obama's handlers are the ones that should be blamed for allowing this issue to percolate to the point that Donald Trump had to flush Obama from the bushes. They should have followed Deputy Barney Fife's advice .... You've got to nip it in the bud!
the question people should ask is: if this was a white president from the republican party would i believe this same shit?
race card ? same as a birth cert ? come on man even the some of the obama fans on here are pissed at em and I don't think his race has anything to do with it, thats like saying all the bush bashers hate him cause he's white and from texas.
Godfather.
uhhhh ... there are a lot of people who are upset at his presidency but the majority still understand he was born in the US ...
why, despite ALL the FACTS, do you persist with this? ... now ask yourself if he was white and a republican whether you would believe this garbage??
The parameters of this theoretical question would have to include a white presidential canidate that was born in the U.S. and then spent his childhood growing up in a foreign country. Let's use the Governator as an example.
If Schwarzenegger was theoretically born in Alaska and then spent his childhood in Austria, I believe that their would be the same percentage minority of conspiracy theorists on the Dem's side that wouldn't let the issue drop if he was in the presidential race ... especially if his handlers pussy-footed around the issue for nearly three years and wouldn't allow Arnie to directly address the issue himself.
Obama's handlers are the ones that should be blamed for allowing this issue to percolate to the point that Donald Trump had to flush Obama from the bushes. They should have followed Deputy Barney Fife's advice .... You've got to nip it in the bud!
dude ... if i just randomnly said you were a kkk member ... would you dignify that with a response!?? ... he didn't "nip this in the bu" because he shouldn't have had to ... if every time somebody wants to say he is this or isn't this - he's got to respond, it just gives these people way too much air time ...
this whole thing is a sad reflection on a percentage of the population ...
dude ... if i just randomnly said you were a kkk member ... would you dignify that with a response!?? .
I'm not a kkk member ... my application was rejected when they found out I was Catholic. :(
If Obama didn't spend his childhood living in a foreign country, this wouldn't be an issue. It's not a race issue, it's a childhood-spent-in-a-foreign-country issue that wasn't directly addressed by Obama until a month ago. If his name was Fred Jones and he grew up in Michigan, no one would question it. But having a foreign name and spending your childhood growing up in a foreign country and then not directly addressing the issue leads to conspiracy (and much more believable then the whole 9/11 government conspiracy, I might add). Arnie would have the same problems in my theoretical post.
I've thought the whole conspiracy was B.S. since the very beginning, but I can easily see how it continued to be an issue. Partly the fault of both Team Beck and Team Obama.
the question people should ask is: if this was a white president from the republican party would i believe this same shit?
race card ? same as a birth cert ? come on man even the some of the obama fans on here are pissed at em and I don't think his race has anything to do with it, thats like saying all the bush bashers hate him cause he's white and from texas.
Godfather.
uhhhh ... there are a lot of people who are upset at his presidency but the majority still understand he was born in the US ...
why, despite ALL the FACTS, do you persist with this? ... now ask yourself if he was white and a republican whether you would believe this garbage??
why do you think I believe this at all anyway ? I don't remember saying anything like that, you think because I posted it that I believe it ?
I posted it because it was funny to me, could you imagine the whoopla if the FBI really had solid proof that the doc was a computer fake and even if it was I don't think the FBI would kick down that info at this point in the game,we would be looking at possible deportation, impeachment and fraud, ya know back in hoovers day he would have sat on that info and used it for leverage just like he did with every president during his rule as director of the FBI...Kennedy hated his ass but couldn't get rid of him..ever wonder why ?
so who really knows ?
dude ... if i just randomnly said you were a kkk member ... would you dignify that with a response!?? .
I'm not a kkk member ... my application was rejected when they found out I was Catholic. :(
If Obama didn't spend his childhood living in a foreign country, this wouldn't be an issue. It's not a race issue, it's a childhood-spent-in-a-foreign-country issue that wasn't directly addressed by Obama until a month ago. If his name was Fred Jones and he grew up in Michigan, no one would question it. But having a foreign name and spending your childhood growing up in a foreign country and then not directly addressing the issue leads to conspiracy (and much more believable then the whole 9/11 government conspiracy, I might add). Arnie would have the same problems in my theoretical post.
I've thought the whole conspiracy was B.S. since the very beginning, but I can easily see how it continued to be an issue. Partly the fault of both Team Beck and Team Obama.
why do you think I believe this at all anyway ? I don't remember saying anything like that, you think because I posted it that I believe it ?
I posted it because it was funny to me, could you imagine the whoopla if the FBI really had solid proof that the doc was a computer fake and even if it was I don't think the FBI would kick down that info at this point in the game,we would be looking at possible deportation, impeachment and fraud, ya know back in hoovers day he would have sat on that info and used it for leverage just like he did with every president during his rule as director of the FBI...Kennedy hated his ass but couldn't get rid of him..ever wonder why ?
so who really knows ?
Godfather.
uhhh ... maybe because you keep posting this stuff and you took offense to the people who made fun of this post!??
also ... your initial post doesn't have a smiley or a lol ... nothing ... so, if you thought this was funny - it's definitely news to me ... and on top of that ... only people who are searching for links like that find it ...
why do you think I believe this at all anyway ? I don't remember saying anything like that, you think because I posted it that I believe it ?
I posted it because it was funny to me, could you imagine the whoopla if the FBI really had solid proof that the doc was a computer fake and even if it was I don't think the FBI would kick down that info at this point in the game,we would be looking at possible deportation, impeachment and fraud, ya know back in hoovers day he would have sat on that info and used it for leverage just like he did with every president during his rule as director of the FBI...Kennedy hated his ass but couldn't get rid of him..ever wonder why ?
so who really knows ?
Godfather.
uhhh ... maybe because you keep posting this stuff and you took offense to the people who made fun of this post!??
also ... your initial post doesn't have a smiley or a lol ... nothing ... so, if you thought this was funny - it's definitely news to me ... and on top of that ... only people who are searching for links like that find it ...
:lolno: :shifty: :think: and I found it on facebook :shock: `and tell me you wouldn't laugh yer azz off if the whole world found out it was fake and made every loyal follower look kind "FUNNY"
I don't know about you but I would laugh till I cried...honest.
:lolno: :shifty: :think: and I found it on facebook :shock: `and tell me you wouldn't laugh yer azz off if the whole world found out it was fake and made every loyal follower look kind "FUNNY"
I don't know about you but I would laugh till I cried...honest.
Godfather.
Godfather
of course that's where you found it! ... facebook is a way to connect like-minded individuals!
soo ... if it was found out that the president of the US forged his birth certificate - your primary reaction would be laughter!?
in any case - you pretty much just said above that you are a "birther" ... because you would laugh at the "loyal followers" ...
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It only took the guy six paragraphs until he referenced the Nazis. I guess he'll be the one laughing when this scandal surpasses Watergate.
p.s...EDIT: Admittedly, I hadn't even read this article before I made this post, and I just retroactively clicked on the link and saw Donald Trump's name in the first paragraph....had no idea. :?
EDIT continued...furthermore, if the FBI has irrefutable 'proof' as is stated in this article, how in the world did he ever become president, regardless of his 'camp'??!?! I can only hope this is not true...hype...otherwise, it is a very sad state of affairs for this country...I can't imagine how or WHY the accomplishment of his presidency would trump such an issue.
No really... please continue.
nice... I'l bet this picture is one that causes excitement for a guy like you.
Godfather.
Embleve, the timing was a bit odd for the release of his birth cert but as you said it really don't matter,can you imagine the historical scandal that it would cause if it was a fake ?
I just thought the story was funny.
Godfather.
ya know just about this whole board was all up in obamas ass saying what a great guy he was and come to find out he's just another President with as many secretes and lies as the last one and probably the next also.
sometimes ya just gotta laugh and move on to see what the next election will bring.
Godfather.
Says the guy who again brought of the birth certificate issue about 2 years after the majority of the country quit caring about it.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
and maybe that's the problem....nobody cares.
Godfather.
A guy like me?
Not quite sure what you mean by that. Would you like to clarify?
is that guy beating that horse from the grassy knoll?
seriously...who CARES? is this the real concern...this is exactly why they didn't release a picture of bin laden...because the fringe couldn't handle it and would be screaming fake forever
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I only wish Schwarzeneggar was born in the states so that big burly bastard could run....you'd all vote him in too then act all surprised when his 5o love children came out of the woodwork.
>
...a lover and a fighter.
"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
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race card ? same as a birth cert ? come on man even the some of the obama fans on here are pissed at em and I don't think his race has anything to do with it, thats like saying all the bush bashers hate him cause he's white and from texas.
Godfather.
If Schwarzenegger was theoretically born in Alaska and then spent his childhood in Austria, I believe that their would be the same percentage minority of conspiracy theorists on the Dem's side that wouldn't let the issue drop if he was in the presidential race ... especially if his handlers pussy-footed around the issue for nearly three years and wouldn't allow Arnie to directly address the issue himself.
Obama's handlers are the ones that should be blamed for allowing this issue to percolate to the point that Donald Trump had to flush Obama from the bushes. They should have followed Deputy Barney Fife's advice .... You've got to nip it in the bud!
uhhhh ... there are a lot of people who are upset at his presidency but the majority still understand he was born in the US ...
why, despite ALL the FACTS, do you persist with this? ... now ask yourself if he was white and a republican whether you would believe this garbage??
dude ... if i just randomnly said you were a kkk member ... would you dignify that with a response!?? ... he didn't "nip this in the bu" because he shouldn't have had to ... if every time somebody wants to say he is this or isn't this - he's got to respond, it just gives these people way too much air time ...
this whole thing is a sad reflection on a percentage of the population ...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
If Obama didn't spend his childhood living in a foreign country, this wouldn't be an issue. It's not a race issue, it's a childhood-spent-in-a-foreign-country issue that wasn't directly addressed by Obama until a month ago. If his name was Fred Jones and he grew up in Michigan, no one would question it. But having a foreign name and spending your childhood growing up in a foreign country and then not directly addressing the issue leads to conspiracy (and much more believable then the whole 9/11 government conspiracy, I might add). Arnie would have the same problems in my theoretical post.
I've thought the whole conspiracy was B.S. since the very beginning, but I can easily see how it continued to be an issue. Partly the fault of both Team Beck and Team Obama.
why do you think I believe this at all anyway ? I don't remember saying anything like that, you think because I posted it that I believe it ?
I posted it because it was funny to me, could you imagine the whoopla if the FBI really had solid proof that the doc was a computer fake and even if it was I don't think the FBI would kick down that info at this point in the game,we would be looking at possible deportation, impeachment and fraud, ya know back in hoovers day he would have sat on that info and used it for leverage just like he did with every president during his rule as director of the FBI...Kennedy hated his ass but couldn't get rid of him..ever wonder why ?
so who really knows ?
Godfather.
:?
i got no further comment for you
uhhh ... maybe because you keep posting this stuff and you took offense to the people who made fun of this post!??
also ... your initial post doesn't have a smiley or a lol ... nothing ... so, if you thought this was funny - it's definitely news to me ... and on top of that ... only people who are searching for links like that find it ...
:lolno: :shifty: :think: and I found it on facebook :shock: `and tell me you wouldn't laugh yer azz off if the whole world found out it was fake and made every loyal follower look kind "FUNNY"
I don't know about you but I would laugh till I cried...honest.
Godfather.
Godfather
no ... it's a matter of perspective ... i chose the no further comment route because it was the most diplomatic one ...
of course that's where you found it! ... facebook is a way to connect like-minded individuals!
soo ... if it was found out that the president of the US forged his birth certificate - your primary reaction would be laughter!?
in any case - you pretty much just said above that you are a "birther" ... because you would laugh at the "loyal followers" ...