Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure
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this will stirr up the Fl. drug addicts.
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this will stirr up the Fl. drug addicts.
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About time...
how about we just eliminate those things?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with this:
"One of the more popular services at Solantic, the urgent care chain co-founded by Florida Gov. Rick Scott, is drug testing, according to Solantic CEO Karen Bowling.
Given Solantic's role in that marketplace, critics are again asking whether Scott's policy initiatives - this time, requiring drug testing of state employees and welfare recipients - are designed to benefit Scott's bottom line.
The Palm Beach Post reported in an exclusive story two weeks ago that while Scott divested his interest in Solantic in January, the controlling shares went to a trust in his wife's name."
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/money/gov- ... 50922.html
you can slap people in the face with it and they still won't get it ... :(
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We do not want to legalize hard drugs...
we do not want to give up on our young people and say drugs are ok.
We do want to drug test all welfare recipients.
Good job Florida but I see the point Johnny made :(
the greed in this world drives most everyone it seems, most especially those in power.
seriously, if people could just see this one very critical point ... we'd be so much better off ... things like left/right rep/dem conservative/liberal would be seen for what they truly are ... labels to distract us from the things that really matter ...
OOHHH SNAP ! great call Blockhead.
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no offense man but that's just not true, anybody with a drug problem can get help with out any fear of legal reprocussions in the US, all they have to do is ask where to go and be willing to accept it,I did and nobody tryed to arrest me....
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it isn't up to you if someone wants to do drugs though...that is their choice...and if you can walk to the gas station and buy it doesn't that remove some of the inherent trouble with drugs? it would also mean that drug treatment for people would be easier to come by and more accessible...
but who on earth would go out right now and start smoking crack if it were legal? seriously...
there are those that are going to do it anyway, and quite frankly as long as they aren't harming others what is the problem? the property crimes that MAY occur and other worries will actually be more easily handled and investigated by the police no longer overwhelmed with a "war on drugs"
READ THIS
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
I reckon a lot less people will have their heads cut off by drug cartels...a lot less people will die unnecessarily from drug overdoses because of poor quality control...make the shit legal and continue to educate on the dangers of overuse...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Nope, they don't pay taxes on drugs.
it is saying they're ok to use
they are not ... what they do to a body and mind is heartbreaking
the user is not the same person they once were.
You are one that was responsible or was able to say no or had no desire in the first place
but there are many who are less inhibited...
much more curious, and perhaps had some very strong 'party genes' to contend with
or parents who set terrible examples with drug use of their own.
Without a doubt pot should be legalized but never these life destroying drugs.
not sure if you saw this link...http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html
i will post some highlights for those not interested in reading it..
this is all after the decriminalization of possession of drugs
"Compared to the European Union and the U.S., Portugal's drug use numbers are impressive. Following decriminalization, Portugal had the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the E.U.: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%. Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana."
In addition, the number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and money saved on enforcement allowed for increased funding of drug-free treatment as well.
At the Cato Institute in early April, Greenwald contended that a major problem with most American drug policy debate is that it's based on "speculation and fear mongering," rather than empirical evidence on the effects of more lenient drug policies. In Portugal, the effect was to neutralize what had become the country's number one public health problem, he says.
"The impact in the life of families and our society is much lower than it was before decriminalization," says Joao Castel-Branco Goulao, Portugual's "drug czar" and president of the Institute on Drugs and Drug Addiction
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Every time they buy something they do, don't they?[/quote]
Yes they are paying taxes with other peoples tax money... (my income tax)[/quote]
subsides also come from your tax money too.
If the definition of crazy is to continue the same patterns over and over while expecting different results, we’re fuckin fruit loops….Our corporations and their politician whores are ADDICTED to the war on drugs.
What message does it send an addict for our drug policy to be, “this isn’t working…in fact, it’s killing us… but we’re gonna keep doing it”…?
Do you know of anyone with "a very strong party gene" who decides to fight that gene solely based on the fact that drugs are illegal? I don’t. EVERYONE who wants to try drugs, can, despite their legality. Prohibition does very little to combat availability…it does, however, leave distribution/sales completely unregulated.
That's the problem...I hate to play this card, but...people are just plain brainwashed...we've had 3 decades of intense programming, convincing us that fighting drugs with the law is our only option...very hard to overcome that :(
Using the "it's my taxes" argument, I'd like to propose that we drug test everyone who drives a car. It's a heavily subsidized form of transportation, people don't have to do it, and it make things safer.
Hardly worth mentioning....f'd.
Some people actually are deterred by the law. They may try it but then because it is illegal with jail time repercussions (felony) may not pursue trying again and using and getting hooked.
Nothing good will ever come with those drugs around... this I know first hand.
On the study about Poland I am seeing increasingly that Americans are not the same as Europeans.
We are different animals... our society is like a 2 year old compared to them with about as much common sense... no offense to US
But I think we got away from the OP's topic :?
What most people are saying is if you have to be on welfare, how can you afford drugs?
I work in a grocery store and the stories the cashiers tell would blow your mind.
A Mexican family shopping on July 4th. Buy over a thousand dollars worth of groceries that consist of mostly seafood (king crab legs, lobster, you get the picture?). They pay with food stamps. Woman that have there hair and nails done on a regular basis paying with food stamps.
I am upset that the law did not cover government employees like he said when he first announced the idea.
agreed :ugeek:
It's unfortunate, we don't seem to learn from our mistakes, then times passes and the next thing we know, that law/or way of doing something becomes part of our culture, in the blood stream (so to speak)
It comes across as almost insane to even think about legalizing all drugs. But in reality, it may just be the only thing that works.
It's sad, we are living in a fear based world. You do something 'wrong', you get punished. We have become a people will little compassion. Little understanding.
The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.
Whether you believe drugs should be legal or illegal, you cannot discount the fact that they slow you down and decrease your motivation. If your last resort for food/money is government handouts, the last thing you should be doing is drugs.