Poster Pre-Sales...?

LukinFan

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

yeap, a few weeks ago

Swordo

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

Bullshit! Did they say why not?

RedMosquito22

demetrios wrote:

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

D'oh! :(

I guess because it makes sense.

Sidnum

RedMosquito22 wrote:

demetrios wrote:

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

D'oh! :(

I guess because it makes sense.

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You could make the case that the poster pre-sale was the best idea this fanclub has had in the last ten years. There was literally no downside, at least none that I can think of. It virtually eliminated a big, big problem for members. We didn't have to either worry about getting one nor did we have to worry about keeping it safe, plus I would think it helped them to determine demand.

And they abandoned it after 1 tour?

PurduePete55

I'm pretty sure that Alpine Valley has one large merchandise stand that is accessible from inside the facility but also from outside the facility. There are other merch stands as well, but I am almost positive that one of the stands allows you to purchase items while still standing in the parking lot. Lord knows our luck would have them close off that side for PJ20, but I know they have done this at other Alpine Valley shows. It isn't as good as a presale shipped to your house, but it would certainly help everyone out to buy their stuff then walk it back to their cars. Something to look for come Labor Day.

Nami

demetrios wrote:

ItIsEvolutionBaby wrote:

madtowndave wrote:

Doing this in 2009 was awesome. I hate carrying around a poster for a regular show, but keeping up with one for an entire day (especially if it rains) would be a major pain in the ass.

I concur.

Same here! I really loved what they did for the '09 tour. I hope they bring that back this time around this September for Canada!

Agreed walking around with a poster at any concert sucks ass.

Im thinking of getting a PJ countdown going at work. This should make for some great arts and crafts for this afternoon! Down with work!

Cheers
Nam

guitar59

Swordo wrote:

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

Bullshit! Did they say why not?

Might have something to do with the fact that they still have many of the posters still in stock 2 years later...I don't mind getting to the venue early...but who wants to carry a poster around.
We preordered in 2009...loved it! Wish I could do it again...please...

shadowcast

RedMosquito22 wrote:

It doesn't even have to be a pre-sale, just give us the opportunity to get one later. It saves us from wasting an hour of our time standing in line only to see the last poster be bought in front of you buy a guy who was allowed to buy 4 for some reason.

What he said.

RedMosquito22

guitar59 wrote:

Swordo wrote:

choop wrote:

santos advised on AET that they would not be doing this again.

Bullshit! Did they say why not?

Might have something to do with the fact that they still have many of the posters still in stock 2 years later...I don't mind getting to the venue early...but who wants to carry a poster around.
We preordered in 2009...loved it! Wish I could do it again...please...

I didn't get to preorder the spectrum posters. The online sale for them was after. It's not my fault they made a million copies of terrible posters for the spectrum.

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How could a pre-sale lead to them printing too many posters, thus being left with a lot after the shows? If every member who bought a 10club ticket has the chance to buy a poster that should help minimize the amount of leftovers. If I had a lemonade stand, and I knew 200 people were coming and I called fifty people and asked if they wanted one, and had them pay for it ahead of time, and I knew that the last time I sold lemonade in this exact location I sold 100 cups, I think I would do a pretty good job of minimizing overage. And if I wanted to make sure I had no overage (if that's their big concern) I would be very conservative with how much lemonade I made. And if I was worried about not maximizing profits I would say to the people who pre-ordered my delicious fucking lemonade, the people who don't want to wait on line and don't want to worry about spilling their lemonade when someone bangs into them, I tell them in order to get this convenience I need to charge them 25% more.

It's not rocket science.

indifferentman

I also recall in '03 that Alpine Valley had a merch stand that is accessible from the OUTSIDE. So I'm hoping that this is still the case and we can pick up or tickets and then trek back to the car and put our posters away safe and sound. I couldn't imagine trying to carry it around for the entire day at AV otherwise.

One thing I noticed about the 09 pre-sale is that there was A LOT of posters left over afterward. I would imagine that there was complaints from the artists and collectors about there being "too many" posters on the market then. Frankly I think that's a GREAT thing. My goal is always to get the poster for the show I went to. If I happen to see leftover posters afterward and I like the artwork, then I'll buy those, but I don't get off on getting posters for EVERY show. Make them a little bit less valuable by having a greater supply and more of us can actually own them!

moonsteps

I desparately want this option back for all future shows. I know that Tim said on AET that they likely won't be doing this again. I got the impression that the band feels that we are not only negatively impacting the poster market but robbing the fan of that nostalgic experience of getting unique merch at your show. OK, I get that.

However, I personnally don't buy posters because they become valuable art. I want my ONE poster for each show I attend...and I can't very well stop now after all this time!! Also, that nostalgic feeling was gone after the first poster MANY years ago, now it is replaced by anger, anxiety, fear due to the following:

- having to leave the preparty early
- standing in line
- wrestling your neighbors, most of whom are supposed to be 10C friends
- losing out on the last poster right before you get to the front of the line (maybe cause they didn't exactly follow the 1 per customer rule)
- if you are lucky to snag one, you have to guard the thing like the HOPE DIAMOND from theft, beer or a simple crease (god forbid they let you bring poster tubes in)
- guarding the poster usually results in a certain level of distraction during the show
- packing the poster up for travel to the next city or show
- working to trade or pay for an overpriced ebay version after the show is over

Because of the poster presale in 2009, I enjoyed the entire concert experience much more (the pre-party, getting to the gate when I wanted to, rocking out uninhibited during the show, etc)! I don't even mind paying the extra shipping...in fact I would pay even more for the presale option if needed.

Please 10C...hear our plea. Let's just call it a thank you gift for having to endure F5-fest!!!!

Swordo

Yes, love to see the support. I hope we can get 10C to re-consider. **Email sent.

PJ-Cubs

I really hope that they bring back the poster pre-sales for at least PJ20.

Having to get to Alpine extremely early each day to get a poster and then have to carry it around (and protect it from damage/theft) for an entire day in the lawn does not sound like fun. i would much rather focus on my energy on enjoying the music and the time with friends.

Also, if the 10C takes pre-sale orders early enough, they can adjust the number of posters that are made to ensure that they do not have too many left after the show.

maverick

I would love to pre-order the posters for the PJ20 weekend. I hope this becomes an option.

PJ-Cubs

Bump

Let's convince the 10C to make this happen!

mfc2006

maverick wrote:

I would love to pre-order the posters for the PJ20 weekend. I hope this becomes an option.

that would be awesome.

derbydave

maverick wrote:

I would love to pre-order the posters for the PJ20 weekend. I hope this becomes an option.

+1
Please consider this 10Club!!! :ugeek:

CranMalReign

Let's do this!

I can't even sleep at night when thinking of the nightmare it would be to fight for and protect a poster for over 12 hours!!! And being PJ20, the demand for these babies is going to be huge. Huge demand means the potential for more craziness at the merch stands, not to mention epic paranoia during the entire concert. I'm going to PJ20 to enjoy some fucking awesome gigs, not practice for a Secret Service job. Let's go, 10c! Make this happen!

The downside is the potential to reduce the value of the prints after the gig. Oh boo hoo! Is this for the fans or for the flippers and dealers? Do this right, guys!

Now that I think about it... the "diluting the value" argument makes no sense... Pearl Jam blew up the PJ bootleg market 10 years ago and haven't stopped since!

And the "robbing the fan of nostalgia" bit... I can fully understand the nostalgia bit. I respect it, and I even may prefer it in many cases... but the "robbing" part is bull... unless the posters are not for sale at the show, you can get it any way you want!