Loved it!!!! Some awesome fight & battle scenes. Some genuinely funny moments as well. Thought there may have been a few more lingering questions answered is my only (very minor gripe) Will definitely be seeing it at the cinemas again...
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Well, fuck, man. So far, the consensus from this group is meh.
If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
Well, fuck, man. So far, the consensus from this group is meh.
If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
MIght as well start looking for takers for your tickets. Rogue One was far superior to this film......
Well, fuck, man. So far, the consensus from this group is meh.
If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
MIght as well start looking for takers for your tickets. Rogue One was far superior to this film......
That makes me a little sad. I had been looking forward to it for a while now.
Well, fuck, man. So far, the consensus from this group is meh.
If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
MIght as well start looking for takers for your tickets. Rogue One was far superior to this film......
That makes me a little sad. I had been looking forward to it for a while now.
There are amazing parts, and its a Star Wars film so it's really not THAT bad. Luke Skywalker is and will always be awesome. It's a strange ride. Some points I said to myself, this is the dumbest movie I've ever watched and at other times I said to myself, this is the best Star Wars scene ever! Go figure.
Well, fuck, man. So far, the consensus from this group is meh.
If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
MIght as well start looking for takers for your tickets. Rogue One was far superior to this film......
That makes me a little sad. I had been looking forward to it for a while now.
There are amazing parts, and its a Star Wars film so it's really not THAT bad. Luke Skywalker is and will always be awesome. It's a strange ride. Some points I said to myself, this is the dumbest movie I've ever watched and at other times I said to myself, this is the best Star Wars scene ever! Go figure.
Episodes I, II, VI and Rogue One were all pretty horrible. And I'm being lenient with Episode III. I must be in a charitable mood or something.
I have read great things. Kinda surprised by all this.
I think there is initial hype and excitement of a new installment. But overall, in the grand scheme of the series, IMO this one will fall toward the bottom of the barrel for rewatchability and its kind of forgettable.. IMO it was a regression from TFA and Rogue One.
I'm struggling with this one. There was a lot I liked. Adam Driver's performance as Kylo blew me away. The fight scene in Snoke's throne room was awesome. I really like the dynamic between Kylo and Rey and am excited to see where it goes. Chewbacca busting through Luke's door and (IMO) basically telling him to stop acting like a little bitch was great. Yoda looked a little weird at first but I enjoyed seeing the character and hearing Frank Oz. I'm glad we got one last Luke Skywalker as hero moment, even though his "death" was a little strange given how he had just "survived" the battle that he actually wasn't even really in. It's probably a fitting end to the character and he was true to his word. He went to that island to die. It was just jarring to lose him and to know we've actually already lost Carrie Fisher too.
There is a lot that I didn't like and I worry that on repeat viewings I will like parts of the film even less. The opening space fight was great - even though Poe's humor at first felt like a reach - and I enjoyed the Battlestar Galactica-esque tracking through light speed bit. But the long, slow speed chase that followed really bothered me. Snoke's kickass ship couldn't catch up to or shoot down a handful of slow moving rebel ships? It was like OJ in the white Bronco only in space. That felt so forced and was a HUGE plot element in the film. I liked Fin and Rose, but there entire mission to the casino just felt shoehorned in.
So...Rey's parents don't matter and neither does Snoke's origin? C'mon.
When the two tie fighters fired on the bridge and Leia was sucked out into space I was SHOCKED. Bolted upright in my seat. I very much thought she might die in this one, but not that early and not like that. Then...weirdness. To go from seeing her only feel the force a few times to flying through space like a superhero was a WTF moment.
There's more obviously but these are the moments that stood out. I'm sure I'll see it again in theaters but probably not until after Christmas. Overall I guess I am disappointed even though there were parts of the film I enjoyed very much.
I have read great things. Kinda surprised by all this.
I think there is initial hype and excitement of a new installment. But overall, in the grand scheme of the series, IMO this one will fall toward the bottom of the barrel for rewatchability and its kind of forgettable.. IMO it was a regression from TFA and Rogue One.
The story was such a cluster-f*ck of nonsense, there were inane cameos and completely incoherent plot devices. It was a cinematic train-wreck. I actually wondered if I had eaten something hallucinogenic accidentally or had had an elaborate dream.
I'm struggling with this one. There was a lot I liked. Adam Driver's performance as Kylo blew me away. The fight scene in Snoke's throne room was awesome. I really like the dynamic between Kylo and Rey and am excited to see where it goes. Chewbacca busting through Luke's door and (IMO) basically telling him to stop acting like a little bitch was great. Yoda looked a little weird at first but I enjoyed seeing the character and hearing Frank Oz. I'm glad we got one last Luke Skywalker as hero moment, even though his "death" was a little strange given how he had just "survived" the battle that he actually wasn't even really in. It's probably a fitting end to the character and he was true to his word. He went to that island to die. It was just jarring to lose him and to know we've actually already lost Carrie Fisher too.
There is a lot that I didn't like and I worry that on repeat viewings I will like parts of the film even less. The opening space fight was great - even though Poe's humor at first felt like a reach - and I enjoyed the Battlestar Galactica-esque tracking through light speed bit. But the long, slow speed chase that followed really bothered me. Snoke's kickass ship couldn't catch up to or shoot down a handful of slow moving rebel ships? It was like OJ in the white Bronco only in space. That felt so forced and was a HUGE plot element in the film. I liked Fin and Rose, but there entire mission to the casino just felt shoehorned in.
So...Rey's parents don't matter and neither does Snoke's origin? C'mon.
When the two tie fighters fired on the bridge and Leia was sucked out into space I was SHOCKED. Bolted upright in my seat. I very much thought she might die in this one, but not that early and not like that. Then...weirdness. To go from seeing her only feel the force a few times to flying through space like a superhero was a WTF moment.
There's more obviously but these are the moments that stood out. I'm sure I'll see it again in theaters but probably not until after Christmas. Overall I guess I am disappointed even though there were parts of the film I enjoyed very much.
I agree with most of your points. I loved seeing Luke Skywalker again, and his grumpy old man self. The scene with Leia flying through space was absolutely the dumbest Star Wars moment ever. It made Jar Jar Binks seem not so bad. Seriously, my son and I looked at eachother and just bust out laughing. So dumb!
One more thing. Maybe this is just a nerd overthinking things but I don't think it is. In The Force Awakens, after Starkiller Base is destroyed, Poe finds the Millennium Falcon as it escapes the explosion and he along with the remaining X-Wings escort the ship back to the rebel base. But in The Last Jedi, Poe and Rey introduce themselves like they have never met. So at no time after the battle and before Rey departed with Chewie to find Luke did these two introduce themselves? They never crossed paths? They never congratulated one another on the victory? They were never commended by Leia as heroes of the battle? That doesn't make sense. Of course they would have met. Instead we get this awkward introduction between the two that feels more than a little like it's foreshadowing a romance. That annoyed me.
With lowered expectations you might enjoy it more. There is some really good to great stuff here. My theater cheered out loud when a certain something happened about halfway through the film and I did too.
I'm struggling with this one. There was a lot I liked. Adam Driver's performance as Kylo blew me away. The fight scene in Snoke's throne room was awesome. I really like the dynamic between Kylo and Rey and am excited to see where it goes. Chewbacca busting through Luke's door and (IMO) basically telling him to stop acting like a little bitch was great. Yoda looked a little weird at first but I enjoyed seeing the character and hearing Frank Oz. I'm glad we got one last Luke Skywalker as hero moment, even though his "death" was a little strange given how he had just "survived" the battle that he actually wasn't even really in. It's probably a fitting end to the character and he was true to his word. He went to that island to die. It was just jarring to lose him and to know we've actually already lost Carrie Fisher too.
There is a lot that I didn't like and I worry that on repeat viewings I will like parts of the film even less. The opening space fight was great - even though Poe's humor at first felt like a reach - and I enjoyed the Battlestar Galactica-esque tracking through light speed bit. But the long, slow speed chase that followed really bothered me. Snoke's kickass ship couldn't catch up to or shoot down a handful of slow moving rebel ships? It was like OJ in the white Bronco only in space. That felt so forced and was a HUGE plot element in the film. I liked Fin and Rose, but there entire mission to the casino just felt shoehorned in.
So...Rey's parents don't matter and neither does Snoke's origin? C'mon.
When the two tie fighters fired on the bridge and Leia was sucked out into space I was SHOCKED. Bolted upright in my seat. I very much thought she might die in this one, but not that early and not like that. Then...weirdness. To go from seeing her only feel the force a few times to flying through space like a superhero was a WTF moment.
There's more obviously but these are the moments that stood out. I'm sure I'll see it again in theaters but probably not until after Christmas. Overall I guess I am disappointed even though there were parts of the film I enjoyed very much.
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The humor at times I thought was over the top. Star Wars, by definition requires some relief, as originally brought by Han... but there were actual comedy bits that lasted long. Also, some poorly times ones. Luke picking the spec of dust off his robe at the end, after getting shot by 20 imperial walkers for 5 minutes was unnecessary and brought unnecessary mood-killing levity into the climax of the movie.
I agree that the snoke chamber was a high-point... although I thought Snoke was eliminated rather easily and too neatly. He was a real badass and I was interested in learning some of his backstory and also see a bit more of what he was capable of power-wise. They might as well had him slip on a banana peel and die.
Kylo and Rey was overdone a bit and I got bored with it after the first "force" interaction.
Carrie Fisher was just awful and her screen presence makes every scene uncomfortable. She was such a major character and it degraded the movie. I didnt know she was alive so late into the creation. I thought she was going to die early on. I was actually surprised when she floated back (horribly cheezy) and again when she woke up.
The Luke scene at the end was awesome, although I thought that focusing on his shoe not removing the salt was too obvious of a tell. It brought everything a sky high money shot.... but then he died. Just kind of evaporated? WTH? The main protagonist for the galaxy/series. The guy that everyone in the galaxy was hunting for, sacrificed himself so that he can delay an attack on a rebel base for 5 minutes? I get the whole 'inspiring the resistance' thing.... but IMO, they could have/should have back-shelved him on the Island-Planet. alive. If they needed him to communicate with Ray in IX, they could have utilized that new Force travel-telepathy trick. Being a ghost jedi is a waste... so now out of the original cast, the only one 'living' is the one who is dead in real life and is a scene-killer on screen.
And the fact that the movie centered around this low-speed chase is an extremely tiny scope. Not much happened at all in this movie really.
Benicio Del Toro and his character was a bright spot.
Finn and that Asian girl were insufferable. I was actually disappointed when she saved him. He is such a nothing character. It was also lazy when they were getting executed and a hangar full of storm troopers was eviscerated and they were unarmored and unscathed. I hate it when people nitpick movies for this sort of thing, but this was exceptionally unbelievable.
And Poe is just so one-dimensional for me, and it was magnified in this movie to the point of eye-rolling. I liked him in TFA, but at this point I am fatigued.
Rey also didnt get any real development in this movie. I really am kind of left out there not looking that forward to IX. Kylo Ren is great, but he is the bad guy/New Republic. I actually also like General Hux too. The protagonists punched themselves out with me in this movie and I dont have strong positive feelings about any of them.
I am actually relieved Rey's parents were nobodies. I thought any route they went with an existing character being a parent would be forced/cheesy.... and probably not make much sense chronologically.
Oh yeah, and if they can just take a ship, turn it toward the fleet and destroy it by shifting into hyperspace, why wouldnt they have just weaponized that earlier in the movie?
The speed/glossing over of Rey's training required too much suspension of belief as well. That bothered me too. It was like one or 2 lessons that she failed with flying colors, nearly falling into the dark side, then "all set.... Master!".
And I get the appetite to cast a woman in a lead/powerful role(s). But jesus christ. So many women in top/authority roles providing common sense, while the male cast are bumbling 2-dimensional apes. Just seems transparent and forced
The film to me was a bit disjointed but overall I really liked it. I do think this film is not going to appeal to the masses. I, personally, enjoy fils that have subthemes related to class, the military industrial complex and the concept of democracy. I also think the construct of "ego" was also front and centre in this film. If you're looking for a hollywood film that doesn't touch upon current social-political issues and would just prefer fantastic effects and fantasy - you will be disappointed.
The film to me was a bit disjointed but overall I really liked it. I do think this film is not going to appeal to the masses. I, personally, enjoy fils that have subthemes related to class, the military industrial complex and the concept of democracy. I also think the construct of "ego" was also front and centre in this film. If you're looking for a hollywood film that doesn't touch upon current social-political issues and would just prefer fantastic effects and fantasy - you will be disappointed.
Wait a minute. This sounds more up this Trekkie's alley now.
The film to me was a bit disjointed but overall I really liked it. I do think this film is not going to appeal to the masses. I, personally, enjoy fils that have subthemes related to class, the military industrial complex and the concept of democracy. I also think the construct of "ego" was also front and centre in this film. If you're looking for a hollywood film that doesn't touch upon current social-political issues and would just prefer fantastic effects and fantasy - you will be disappointed.
Wait a minute. This sounds more up this Trekkie's alley now.
Maybe, but The Last Jedi is more Star Trek into Darkness than it is Wrath of Khan. I enjoyed both Trek films but also fully understand why one is beloved and one is not. Admittedly, that's not a perfect analogy. Still, my problems with TLJ aren't about its themes or any of the risks it takes. It's how it goes about tackling those themes and taking those chances that was hit or miss for me. Maybe a better analogy is a power hitter who strikes out a lot. When he makes contact, awesome. When he swings and misses, ugh.
The film to me was a bit disjointed but overall I really liked it. I do think this film is not going to appeal to the masses. I, personally, enjoy fils that have subthemes related to class, the military industrial complex and the concept of democracy. I also think the construct of "ego" was also front and centre in this film. If you're looking for a hollywood film that doesn't touch upon current social-political issues and would just prefer fantastic effects and fantasy - you will be disappointed.
Wait a minute. This sounds more up this Trekkie's alley now.
Maybe, but The Last Jedi is more Star Trek into Darkness than it is Wrath of Khan. I enjoyed both Trek films but also fully understand why one is beloved and one is not. Admittedly, that's not a perfect analogy. Still, my problems with TLJ aren't about its themes or any of the risks it takes. It's how it goes about tackling those themes and taking those chances that was hit or miss for me. Maybe a better analogy is a power hitter who strikes out a lot. When he makes contact, awesome. When he swings and misses, ugh.
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Some awesome fight & battle scenes.
Some genuinely funny moments as well.
Thought there may have been a few more lingering questions answered is my only (very minor gripe)
Will definitely be seeing it at the cinemas again...
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If it's really worse than Rogue One, I might give my tickets away and get a nice dinner instead. I can't imagine anything being worse than Rogue One.
For the record, there has only been exactly one bad Star Trek film (although I have yet to see the last one, which seemed like it might make that number two).
There is a lot that I didn't like and I worry that on repeat viewings I will like parts of the film even less. The opening space fight was great - even though Poe's humor at first felt like a reach - and I enjoyed the Battlestar Galactica-esque tracking through light speed bit. But the long, slow speed chase that followed really bothered me. Snoke's kickass ship couldn't catch up to or shoot down a handful of slow moving rebel ships? It was like OJ in the white Bronco only in space. That felt so forced and was a HUGE plot element in the film. I liked Fin and Rose, but there entire mission to the casino just felt shoehorned in.
So...Rey's parents don't matter and neither does Snoke's origin? C'mon.
When the two tie fighters fired on the bridge and Leia was sucked out into space I was SHOCKED. Bolted upright in my seat. I very much thought she might die in this one, but not that early and not like that. Then...weirdness. To go from seeing her only feel the force a few times to flying through space like a superhero was a WTF moment.
There's more obviously but these are the moments that stood out. I'm sure I'll see it again in theaters but probably not until after Christmas. Overall I guess I am disappointed even though there were parts of the film I enjoyed very much.
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imdb has it 86/100 crititcs
8.1/10 from the fans
but click on the actual fan reviews and they are all 1’s to 3’s with a few 6’s mixed in
then listening to you guys.... sounds like Disney bought some Critics
im going tomorrow in IMAX.... I didn’t have high expectations to begin with, at least my vape pen will make it watchable, I hope
hopefuly JJ can save the final installment
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The humor at times I thought was over the top. Star Wars, by definition requires some relief, as originally brought by Han... but there were actual comedy bits that lasted long. Also, some poorly times ones. Luke picking the spec of dust off his robe at the end, after getting shot by 20 imperial walkers for 5 minutes was unnecessary and brought unnecessary mood-killing levity into the climax of the movie.
I agree that the snoke chamber was a high-point... although I thought Snoke was eliminated rather easily and too neatly. He was a real badass and I was interested in learning some of his backstory and also see a bit more of what he was capable of power-wise. They might as well had him slip on a banana peel and die.
Kylo and Rey was overdone a bit and I got bored with it after the first "force" interaction.
Carrie Fisher was just awful and her screen presence makes every scene uncomfortable. She was such a major character and it degraded the movie. I didnt know she was alive so late into the creation. I thought she was going to die early on. I was actually surprised when she floated back (horribly cheezy) and again when she woke up.
The Luke scene at the end was awesome, although I thought that focusing on his shoe not removing the salt was too obvious of a tell. It brought everything a sky high money shot.... but then he died. Just kind of evaporated? WTH? The main protagonist for the galaxy/series. The guy that everyone in the galaxy was hunting for, sacrificed himself so that he can delay an attack on a rebel base for 5 minutes? I get the whole 'inspiring the resistance' thing.... but IMO, they could have/should have back-shelved him on the Island-Planet. alive. If they needed him to communicate with Ray in IX, they could have utilized that new Force travel-telepathy trick. Being a ghost jedi is a waste... so now out of the original cast, the only one 'living' is the one who is dead in real life and is a scene-killer on screen.
And the fact that the movie centered around this low-speed chase is an extremely tiny scope. Not much happened at all in this movie really.
Benicio Del Toro and his character was a bright spot.
Finn and that Asian girl were insufferable. I was actually disappointed when she saved him. He is such a nothing character. It was also lazy when they were getting executed and a hangar full of storm troopers was eviscerated and they were unarmored and unscathed. I hate it when people nitpick movies for this sort of thing, but this was exceptionally unbelievable.
And Poe is just so one-dimensional for me, and it was magnified in this movie to the point of eye-rolling. I liked him in TFA, but at this point I am fatigued.
Rey also didnt get any real development in this movie. I really am kind of left out there not looking that forward to IX. Kylo Ren is great, but he is the bad guy/New Republic. I actually also like General Hux too. The protagonists punched themselves out with me in this movie and I dont have strong positive feelings about any of them.
I am actually relieved Rey's parents were nobodies. I thought any route they went with an existing character being a parent would be forced/cheesy.... and probably not make much sense chronologically.
Oh yeah, and if they can just take a ship, turn it toward the fleet and destroy it by shifting into hyperspace, why wouldnt they have just weaponized that earlier in the movie?
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