BIN LADEN IS DEAD
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unsung wrote:Meanwhile Obama is now using this for political gain and is traveling to New York.
Why shouldn't he? Because you don't like him?
People always talk about "political gain", but sometimes it's not political gain it's just a resume builder. You do the same with achievements in your job and you bring them out to show people when you want a better job, more pay, or even just to keep your job from year to year. What's the problem with this?
He got it done. Ultimately it was the military obviously and personally those Navy Seals, but he was the head guy when it got done.hippiemom = goodness0 -
unsung wrote:Meanwhile Obama is now using this for political gain and is traveling to New York.
I am going to have to disagree. I think that this is what the American people, and New Yorkers especially, want right now.
If I remember correctly, you are a fan of Ron Paul. What if, instead of Obama, it was Paul who was making this trip to Ground Zero? Would you have a different opinion?
I am not saying that you are wrong, and it is clear that politicians use situations for political gain, but isn't it possible that Obama is doing what he thinks, and I think, the American people want?0 -
I imagine Obama had several minor heart attacks when he watched that chopper go down on the live feed from the situation room!
What's going on??? Is that normal?? Wait, is it on fire?????? WTF is happening!!!Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
The White House needs to watch some episodes of 24 and build a real situation room! That looks like my conference room at work.whygohome wrote:Jason P wrote:I imagine Obama had several minor heart attacks when he watched that chopper go down on the live feed from the situation room!
What's going on??? Is that normal?? Wait, is it on fire?????? WTF is happening!!!
An interesting photo.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
whygohome wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:wow, with all of the circular arguments this thread has jumped the shark 20 pages ago...
As long as everyone realizes that the views they are presenting are opinions. How much can we really know, while nestled comfortably on our suburban streets, or in our 3rd floor walk-ups? Our firm stances (narrow belief systems) can be imprisoning.
Kudos to those who spend their lives reading, researching, and studying politics and world affairs, but think about it, what do we really know?
Just a thought. My focus lately has been on my own insignificance in the big picture: 100 years from now it will be as if I never existed. This is bigger than me, bigger than all of us, so I am trying to gain some real perspective. When I was a child, I lived in an egocentric universe, and unfortunately that way of thinking continued into my teens and early twenties. Even more unfortunately, I see many people who have not been able to abandon the egocentric (narcissistic) point of view.
Carl Sagan put it best: http://mwangy.wordpress.com/2010/12/05/pale-blue-dot/
Let's all open our minds and have some good, intellectual discussions. Discussions, not arguments. Civil discourse will get us a lot further than foolish diatribe.
you nailed it, XLNT post I don't even need to open your link to understand your point.
Thanx,
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wolfamongwolves wrote:If you want to have even a shred of moral authority in condemning OBL's actions and motivations, then don't suggest that we should sink to his level be denying fair justice. Make damn sure he gets fair justice, a fair trial, and a fair penalty for his crimes. And don't make the mistake in thinking a fair trial means he gets privileges. It's not "happy land bullshit", it's not "screaming and crying", it's not sympathy for Osama bin Laden. It means making sure that cold, hard, rational, civilised and intelligent justice is done - not mindless wild-west vengeance.
This post pretty much parellels my reasons for being opposed to the death penalty.0 -
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whygohome wrote:Jason P wrote:I imagine Obama had several minor heart attacks when he watched that chopper go down on the live feed from the situation room!
What's going on??? Is that normal?? Wait, is it on fire?????? WTF is happening!!!
An interesting photo.
this is a great pic. everyone looks so concerned and unsettled. they know that it is a make or break situation and that they are on the cusp of doing something historic. i'll bet more than a few sphincters are puckered up in that room..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:this is a great pic. everyone looks so concerned and unsettled. they know that it is a make or break situation and that they are on the cusp of doing something historic. i'll bet more than a few sphincters are puckered up in that room...
'cept for joe...he looks like he's just waiting to change the channel to espn0 -
anyone else kinda underwhelmed at the size of that room? ... i always had visions of the room they have in Dr. Strangelove or countless other movies ... they can barely all fit!0
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polaris_x wrote:anyone else kinda underwhelmed at the size of that room? ... i always had visions of the room they have in Dr. Strangelove or countless other movies ... they can barely all fit!
as a devoted watcher of "the west wing" that is no where close to what i thought it was0 -
polaris_x wrote:anyone else kinda underwhelmed at the size of that room? ... i always had visions of the room they have in Dr. Strangelove or countless other movies ... they can barely all fit!
Apparently the larger rooms had a poor WiFi signal for the Live Skype feed they were watching of the execution.
Imagine, just before the kill shot, the feed starts to buffer? Can't have that happening my friend.0 -
seriously,this foto is a part of world history now..."...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
dimitrispearljam wrote:seriously,this foto is a part of world history now...
and you may never see it
In an interview with Steve Kroft for this Sunday's 60 Minutes, President Obama says he won't release post-mortem images of Osama Bin Laden taken to prove his death.
Video of the comments will appear on the CBS "Evening News" on Wednesday.
Republican House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said Wednesday that the Obama administration should not release the gruesome postmortem images, saying it could complicate the job for American troops overseas.
"The risks of release outweigh the benefits," he said. "Conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway, and there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East."
"Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaida killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the internet," he continued. "Osama bin Laden is not a trophy - he is dead and let's now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaida has been eliminated."
Skeptics have called on the United States to release photos of bin Laden, who officials say was shot in the face during a raid on his compound, in order to prove that the al Qaeda leader is really dead.
The White House says it is debating whether to release the photographs, which are believed to be extremely graphic. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that the photos could inflame anti-American sentiment. CIA director Leon Panetta told CBS News Tuesday that he thinks a photo will be released, though he said the White House will make the final decision. He told NBC News that "I don't think there was any question that ultimately a photograph would be presented to the public."
Two Republican senators -- Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Armed Services Committee, and Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-NH, a member of the Armed Services Committee - told CBS News Wednesday they had seen post-mortem photographs of bin Laden.
Photoshopped images purporting to show bin Laden after he was killed have already surfaced on the Internet.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html0 -
norm wrote:dimitrispearljam wrote:seriously,this foto is a part of world history now...
and you may never see it
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just in greek tv they said that obama said will not give in public the foto of the dead ladenPost edited by dimitrispearljam on"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
dimitrispearljam wrote:seriously,this foto is a part of world history now...
Are you talking about this photo?How I choose to feel is how I am0 -
Suzi78 wrote:dimitrispearljam wrote:seriously,this foto is a part of world history now...
Are you talking about this photo?"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
dimitrispearljam wrote:norm wrote:dimitrispearljam wrote:seriously,this foto is a part of world history now...
and you may never see it
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just in greek tv they said that obama said will give in public the foto of the dead laden
oh sorry :oops:
yep that pic is history0
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