US teen found guilty of killing 4-year-old boy

Thoughts_Arrive

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/us-tee ... 6043628220

Sick of criminals using 'mental illness' as an excuse! :x

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/us-teen-found-guilty-of-killing-four-year-old-boy/story-e6frf7jo-1226043628220

Sick of criminals using 'mental illness' as an excuse! :x

Of criminals using 'mental illness' as an excuse ? You consider this 14 year old boy to be a criminal who is using mental illness as an excuse ? That means you're stating this 14 year boy knows he can get away with jail time for this murder if he uses mental illness as an excuse. Really ? You believe that a 14 year old boy went through the thought process of tricking the judicial system into finding him not criminally responsible which re-assured himself that he could get away with a murder and so he murdered.

C'mon man ...

No offense but you may want to change your screen name.

Here is the real problem like it or not.
"The doctor testified that Castro has a history of depression, suicidal behaviour, hallucinations, bipolar disorder and anxiety. He also said the teen had suffered physical abuse as a toddler by his mother's boyfriend"

Sure, this kid needs help but are the authorities looking for the abusers of this child and going to go lock them up ?

Thoughts_Arrive

zarocat wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/us-teen-found-guilty-of-killing-four-year-old-boy/story-e6frf7jo-1226043628220

Sick of criminals using 'mental illness' as an excuse! :x

No offense but you may want to change your screen name.

How about shut the f*** up and stop being a smart ass?
If you don't like my THOUGHT that is not my problem.
As is the case with many child killers they and their lawyers always use mental illness as an excuse for their evil crime.

EmBleve

Obviously this kid has some mental illness, but it doesn't sound to me, just from this article, that he qualifies for an insanity defense by any means. This is a heinous crime, and at his young age at that..he needs to be confined for a very, very long time (if not forever) in a prison or a mental institution because if he isn't, he will definitely do something like this again in the future. One of the things that bother me about things like this is whether they try him as an adult or a juvenile. With a crime like this, I think he should be tried as an adult for sentencing purposes. This is a very dangerous individual.

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

zarocat wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/us-teen-found-guilty-of-killing-four-year-old-boy/story-e6frf7jo-1226043628220

Sick of criminals using 'mental illness' as an excuse! :x

No offense but you may want to change your screen name.

How about shut the f*** up and stop being a smart ass?
If you don't like my THOUGHT that is not my problem.
As is the case with many child killers they and their lawyers always use mental illness as an excuse for their evil crime.

For their 'evil' crime ? Some crimes that are not evil ?
They & their lawyers ? Right. Because the 14 year old boy is saying to his lawyer, "Right on. I can use mental illness as an excuse ? Fuck, I'm glad you're my lawyer. What should I say to the shrink ? Out of body experience ? Oh, ok, I've read about that somewhere."

Absurd.

Thoughts_Arrive

Whatever dude, whatever.
If you don't like my take on the matter no need to resort to being a smart ass.

EmBleve

not necessarily like that, but I am sure his lawyers jumped all over that bandwagon.

zarocat

EmBleve wrote:

Obviously this kid has some mental illness, but it doesn't sound to me, just from this article, that he qualifies for an insanity defense by any means. This is a heinous crime, and at his young age at that..he needs to be confined for a very, very long time (if not forever) in a prison or a mental institution because if he isn't, he will definitely do something like this again in the future. One of the things that bother me about things like this is whether they try him as an adult or a juvenile. With a crime like this, I think he should be tried as an adult for sentencing purposes. This is a very dangerous individual.

I agree. I also think the sentencing should be THIS KID WAS ABUSED AND SO HE IS FUCKED BY NO CHOICE OF HIS OWN AND IN ALL PROBABILITY WILL BE BECOME EVEN MORE DISTURBED AS TIME GOES ON ... GET A DOCTOR AND A COUNSELLOR

Thoughts_Arrive

send him to the chair

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

Whatever dude, whatever.
If you don't like my take on the matter no need to resort to being a smart ass.

I'm not being a smart ass man. Sure, it comes across like that but I'm serious dude. Your take on the matter gives this kid no chance that's what I don't like. The kid is not at fault here. The abuser of that kid is. To think differently & to say it's the kid & his lawyers using mental illness as an excuse is backwards.

EmBleve

zarocat wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

Obviously this kid has some mental illness, but it doesn't sound to me, just from this article, that he qualifies for an insanity defense by any means. This is a heinous crime, and at his young age at that..he needs to be confined for a very, very long time (if not forever) in a prison or a mental institution because if he isn't, he will definitely do something like this again in the future. One of the things that bother me about things like this is whether they try him as an adult or a juvenile. With a crime like this, I think he should be tried as an adult for sentencing purposes. This is a very dangerous individual.

I agree. I also think the sentencing should be THIS KID WAS ABUSED AND SO HE IS FUCKED BY NO CHOICE OF HIS OWN AND IN ALL PROBABILITY WILL BE BECOME EVEN MORE DISTURBED AS TIME GOES ON ... GET A DOCTOR AND A COUNSELLOR

I would think that he had already had a doctor and a counselor if those diagnoses they listed were already made prior to him doing this. For some things all the doctors or counselors in the world cannot effectively rewire brain circuitry.

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

send him to the chair

You seriously made me laugh out loud.

zarocat

EmBleve wrote:

zarocat wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

Obviously this kid has some mental illness, but it doesn't sound to me, just from this article, that he qualifies for an insanity defense by any means. This is a heinous crime, and at his young age at that..he needs to be confined for a very, very long time (if not forever) in a prison or a mental institution because if he isn't, he will definitely do something like this again in the future. One of the things that bother me about things like this is whether they try him as an adult or a juvenile. With a crime like this, I think he should be tried as an adult for sentencing purposes. This is a very dangerous individual.

I agree. I also think the sentencing should be THIS KID WAS ABUSED AND SO HE IS FUCKED BY NO CHOICE OF HIS OWN AND IN ALL PROBABILITY WILL BE BECOME EVEN MORE DISTURBED AS TIME GOES ON ... GET A DOCTOR AND A COUNSELLOR

I would think that he had already had a doctor and a counselor if those diagnoses they listed were already made prior to him doing this. For some things all the doctors or counselors in the world cannot effectively rewire brain circuitry.

Ok. Stick him in a cell then ... with Bubba.

zarocat

That was a fun 5 minutes as far as boards go.

EmBleve

^^no, or a mental institution. Rehabilitation for this person is probably highly unlikely.

Thoughts_Arrive

zarocat wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

send him to the chair

You seriously made me laugh out loud.

:roll:

dimitrispearljam

Eye for an Eye isnt a solution to a crime...everyone ,even the worst criminal must have the right to defent himself,its called Democracy,Justice
i think this is a more general issue..society and families need to work more hard for not let 14years old boys become murderers

EmBleve

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

Thoughts_Arrive

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

He didn't get the right to defend himself.
Therefore this evil asshole shouldn't have that right!

EmBleve

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

He didn't get the right to defend himself.
!

yes, exactly my point.

Thoughts_Arrive

EmBleve wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

He didn't get the right to defend himself.
!

yes, exactly my point.

Try getting that point across to the other two.
They prefer the sympathy for the monster approach.

dimitrispearljam

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

a merderer must take what he deserve..what is the penalty for that?20-30 years?to a mental facility?to a prison?dont know..but not to shoot him in the head as well

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

He didn't get the right to defend himself.
Therefore this evil asshole shouldn't have that right!

Neither did the 14 year old boy at the hand of his abuser. It's a vicious circle indeed. The only difference between the 4 year old & the 14 year old is that one of them is alive. That is all. In all likely hood, the 4 year old would have grown up and did the same thing to another child.

zarocat

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

They prefer the sympathy for the monster approach.

I give no one sympathy or pity. What I do do is use my brain to understand a situation.

EmBleve

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

a merderer must take what he deserve..what is the penalty for that?20-30 years?to a mental facility?to a prison?dont know..but not to shoot him in the head as well

I wouldn't quite go that far.

Thoughts_Arrive

There are many people in this sick world that are victims of sexual abuse that do not go on and commit such crimes.
That is the worst fkn excuse in the book, I got abused so I will do it to someone else, come on get real.
People should know it is not right.

Thoughts_Arrive

zarocat wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

They prefer the sympathy for the monster approach.

I give no one sympathy or pity. What I do do is use my brain to understand a situation.

So did I.

EmBleve

zarocat wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

He didn't get the right to defend himself.
Therefore this evil asshole shouldn't have that right!

Neither did the 14 year old boy at the hand of his abuser. It's a vicious circle indeed. The only difference between the 4 year old & the 14 year old is that one of them is alive. That is all. In all likely hood, the 4 year old would have grown up and did the same thing to another child.

well, I wouldn't say 'in all likelihood' that's what would have happened to the 4 year old. Sexual abuse is a terrible thing, no doubt!, but the majority of people who are sexually abused as children do not go on to sodomize and murder younger children when they are 14. There was more going on with this kid than just that. I am sure that whatever he endured as a child contributed to his present make-up, but that isn't an 'excuse' per se.

dimitrispearljam

EmBleve wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

EmBleve wrote:

I can understand what you're saying dimitris, and yet on the other hand, where is the justice for the 4 year old boy?

a merderer must take what he deserve..what is the penalty for that?20-30 years?to a mental facility?to a prison?dont know..but not to shoot him in the head as well

I wouldn't quite go that far.

exactly..revenge isnt a solution,,this 14 years old boy act like animal..the society must not act like animal..
nothing will bring the 4 years old back,nothing make it parents feel better.
for me 14 years old is still a child..for me not only hom but his parents as well must face justice for create him like that...

EmBleve

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

There are many people in this sick world that are victims of sexual abuse that do not go on and commit such crimes.
That is the worst fkn excuse in the book, I got abused so I will do it to someone else, come on get real.
People should know it is not right.

yes, that is basically what I just said in the post I just put up in the meantime, and of course he knew it wasn't right, that's why he killed him because he said he was going to tell on him for doing it. That fact alone should disqualify him from a legal insanity defense.

Thoughts_Arrive

EmBleve wrote:

Thoughts_Arrive wrote:

There are many people in this sick world that are victims of sexual abuse that do not go on and commit such crimes.
That is the worst fkn excuse in the book, I got abused so I will do it to someone else, come on get real.
People should know it is not right.

yes, that is basically what I just said in the post I just put up in the meantime, and of course he knew it wasn't right, that's why he killed him because he said he was going to tell on him for doing it. That fact alone should disqualify him from a legal insanity defense.

Spot on!