NHL 2011 PLAYOFFS

Fifthelement

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Pats54

jimed14 wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

I also think that Bruins fans must have short memories if they think they are the only ones who are victims of unfortunate plays.

I agree with you totally...I know several Bruins fans and they all were gloating over that Chara hit and not one felt much sympathy for the Hab player...but today they were they hot.

This is my direct quote after the Chara hit ... it was in a thread where Canadien fans were talking about press charges on Chara ... that's right, Canadien fans wanted to press charges.

But more importantly, you will find zero duplicity on my part about hits like this.

jimed14 wrote:

People need to chill out. There is nothing you can do to control this ... unless you want to stop watching, stop going to games, etc ... which you're not going to do.
Imagine the outcry if this had been reversed and Boychuck had laid out one of the Sedin's. Canada would be going crazy. To prevent the Chara play just remove the turnbuckle at center ice.

The league is fucking daft for not suspending Chara for a few games ... yes, I'm a Bruins fan and I'm saying that. Almost feel it's being done to get their league talked about. Any publicity is good publicity, right?

This all said, criminal charges? C'mon, ridiculous.

Pats54

If it had been one of the Sedin's who had been hit like that by Jonhny Boychuck. I am sure Canucks fans and most of Canada would be in an uproar. Probably launching a criminal investigation . To prevent hits like the Chara hit remove the turnbuckle at center ice and that never happens. In this instance the league probably felt like they had to get control of the series. Especially after blowing the Burrows non suspension which really escalated mostly due to the Canucks. Game 4 is going to be fun but every game is different.

I don't repect the way the Canucks play the game. The flyers are an intense team with players I hate but I have much more respect for the way they play. None of the diving and flailing around like you just got shot to try to draw penalties.

polaris_x

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree with you 100% on both sports...

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

the hit was late ... this isn't roller derby ... a guy has to have a chance to protect himself or avoid the hit ... no one wants to take out the physicality of the game but hits like that don't make the game any better all they will do is put more guys on the IR for a lot longer ...

horton was NOT admiring a pass ... he was following the play ... like ... what the cuss is there to admire in the first place ... what was remotely special about the pass that warrants admiration?? ...

did rome intend to injure? ... i doubt it but he did lift into horton (in order to gain added leverage) ...

4 games is definitely inconsistent and i think a bit harsh ... maybe the league was making up for not suspending burrows ... i dunno ...

at the end of the day tho - he could be suspended 1 or 2 games and it wouldn't ultimately matter to the bruins ... they lost arguably their best player in the playoffs ... rome is replaceable ... horton not so much ...

Pats54

polaris_x wrote:

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree with you 100% on both sports...

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

the hit was late ... this isn't roller derby ... a guy has to have a chance to protect himself or avoid the hit ... no one wants to take out the physicality of the game but hits like that don't make the game any better all they will do is put more guys on the IR for a lot longer ...

horton was NOT admiring a pass ... he was following the play ... like ... what the cuss is there to admire in the first place ... what was remotely special about the pass that warrants admiration?? ...

did rome intend to injure? ... i doubt it but he did lift into horton (in order to gain added leverage) ...

4 games is definitely inconsistent and i think a bit harsh ... maybe the league was making up for not suspending burrows ... i dunno ...

at the end of the day tho - he could be suspended 1 or 2 games and it wouldn't ultimately matter to the bruins ... they lost arguably their best player in the playoffs ... rome is replaceable ... horton not so much ...

Agree 100%

blackredyellow

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree with you 100% on both sports...

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

They might be becoming pussified, but it's hard to ignore all of the tramatic brain injuries and the serious consequences that happen to players in both sports. Just read about NFL hall of famer Mike Webster's life and death... head injuries are a scary scary thing.

lukin2006

blackredyellow wrote:

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree with you 100% on both sports...

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

They might be becoming pussified, but it's hard to ignore all of the tramatic brain injuries and the serious consequences that happen to players in both sports. Just read about NFL hall of famer Mike Webster's life and death... head injuries are a scary scary thing.

It is hard to ignore...but in both sports the players are getting bigger, faster and stronger. The leagues now need to a look at the equipment and the rinks. Don Cherry has talked about both the equipment and the boards on his show. He had those shoulder pads on an episode...rock hard....I wouldn't want to get hit with those. The boards in these new rinks have no give...why is the NHL not investing money in researching better equipment for the players that protects players and is also less likely to injure, they can't come up with boards that have more give...as far as I'm concerned it all comes down to money.

The league is full of shit when they talk of player safety...why have the not put in place automatic icing, 2 guys racing for a puck behind the net can be 1 of the most dangerous things in hockey.

lukin2006

polaris_x wrote:

metsfan wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I agree with you 100% on both sports...

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

the hit was late ... this isn't roller derby ... a guy has to have a chance to protect himself or avoid the hit ... no one wants to take out the physicality of the game but hits like that don't make the game any better all they will do is put more guys on the IR for a lot longer ...

horton was NOT admiring a pass ... he was following the play ... like ... what the cuss is there to admire in the first place ... what was remotely special about the pass that warrants admiration?? ...

did rome intend to injure? ... i doubt it but he did lift into horton (in order to gain added leverage) ...

4 games is definitely inconsistent and i think a bit harsh ... maybe the league was making up for not suspending burrows ... i dunno ...

at the end of the day tho - he could be suspended 1 or 2 games and it wouldn't ultimately matter to the bruins ... they lost arguably their best player in the playoffs ... rome is replaceable ... horton not so much ...

The only thing the NHL said was illegal about that hit was he was a split second 2 late...Rome has no history of this sort of thing...1 game would have been sufficient...in my opinion it's win-win Vancouver...they insert Ballard who I like better anyways, but for some reason is in the coach's dog house.

The NHL has no consistency at all...this is what drives general managers and coach's and fans crazy.

blackredyellow

lukin2006 wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

metsfan wrote:

it's an open ice hit. the same hit thats been around since the birth of hockey. makes me sick to see hockey become pussified a sport.

They might be becoming pussified, but it's hard to ignore all of the tramatic brain injuries and the serious consequences that happen to players in both sports. Just read about NFL hall of famer Mike Webster's life and death... head injuries are a scary scary thing.

It is hard to ignore...but in both sports the players are getting bigger, faster and stronger. The leagues now need to a look at the equipment and the rinks. Don Cherry has talked about both the equipment and the boards on his show. He had those shoulder pads on an episode...rock hard....I wouldn't want to get hit with those. The boards in these new rinks have no give...why is the NHL not investing money in researching better equipment for the players that protects players and is also less likely to injure, they can't come up with boards that have more give...as far as I'm concerned it all comes down to money.

The league is full of shit when they talk of player safety...why have the not put in place automatic icing, 2 guys racing for a puck behind the net can be 1 of the most dangerous things in hockey.

Equipment really needs looked at... shoulder pads and elbow pads are dangerously hard.

But this is one unintended consequence of the post lockout rules. I'd never want to go back to watching late 90's hockey where you were allowed to do just about anything to a player, but this fast open game (and bigger, better skaters) has brought us faster, harder collisions.

Automatic icing (or better yet, the hybrid icing) should be a no brainer, but I really don't know what else can be done without drastically altering the game.

Jason P

lukin2006 wrote:

The NHL has no consistency at all...this is what drives general managers and coach's and fans crazy.

This is one of the reasons that Shanahan is taking over for Campbell next year. They do need to get better and more consistent as up to this point, league discipline has been a crapshoot.

Of course, had Horton been able to bounce back up, it probably would have been a 2 or 5 minute penalty and the NHL would not have reviewed the case. The hard, late hit, combined with Horton's head smacking the ice and scrambling his brains warranted a stiffer penalty in my opinion. Sort of like the punishment doled out when you drive over a mailbox vs. a 10 year old kid when being just over the legal limit.

At least with this suspension, the NHL outlined their logic.

jimed14

A new page deserves seeing this again ...

jimed14 wrote:

blackredyellow

Jason P wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

The NHL has no consistency at all...this is what drives general managers and coach's and fans crazy.

This is one of the reasons that Shanahan is taking over for Campbell next year. They do need to get better and more consistent as up to this point, league discipline has been a crapshoot.

Of course, had Horton been able to bounce back up, it probably would have been a 2 or 5 minute penalty and the NHL would not have reviewed the case. The hard, late hit, combined with Horton's head smacking the ice and scrambling his brains warranted a stiffer penalty in my opinion. Sort of like the punishment doled out when you drive over a mailbox vs. a 10 year old kid when being just over the legal limit.

At least with this suspension, the NHL outlined their logic.

They usually outline their logic, but from case to case the logic usually doesn't jive

haffajappa

I am curious to know if the Rome hit merits our fans being spit on and have beer poured on them?
According to the National yesterday some Canucks fans actually had to move from their seats because of abuse from surrounding Boston fans. Also according to the radio some small kid in a Canucks jersey got elbowed in the face purposely by a Bruins fan....

Obviously this doesn't encompass all Boston fans and there are always idiots that make a team's fan base look bad but I really hope that this hit doesn't turn this series ugly. It could have happened to either team, and like I've said before, Boston of all teams should know that.

jimed14

There are lugnuts in any crowd ... the stories that came out of Montreal the night Chara hit Pacioretty are equally as dusturbing. No one deserves any of it.

Hell, a few folks in L.A. beat a SF Giants fan near death on opening day of the baseball season.

Can't point out one single fan base, they all have their share of idiots.

neilybabes86

haffajappa wrote:

I am curious to know if the Rome hit merits our fans being spit on and have beer poured on them?
According to the National yesterday some Canucks fans actually had to move from their seats because of abuse from surrounding Boston fans. Also according to the radio some small kid in a Canucks jersey got elbowed in the face purposely by a Bruins fan....

Obviously this doesn't encompass all Boston fans and there are always idiots that make a team's fan base look bad but I really hope that this hit doesn't turn this series ugly. It could have happened to either team, and like I've said before, Boston of all teams should know that.

yes boston = drunk fools

jimed14

neilybabes86 wrote:

yes boston = drunk fools

and of course, no one in New York would ever sink so low ... right? :roll:

neilybabes86

jimed14 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

yes boston = drunk fools

and of course, no one in New York would ever sink so low ... right? :roll:

nope..we don't hit children

had this happen to a co-worker...

6 yr old son was called every name in the book for wearing a yanks hate up there ... yes 6 yrs old

hence i will never visit

jimed14

Dru_Cortez

2.5 hours to go!
I got beers in the garage,
the rabbit ears connected...
yeah, I said it: rabbit ears!
I'm still calling Van in 5,
though it pains me so!
Cheers.

neilybabes86

canucks might have lost this series because of rome....dumbasses