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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    Crazy to see the price differences from region to region. Where I live, real estate went up almost 300% from 03 to 08, then dropped about 25% in 08, and has since recovered about half of that....The inventory left from the 08 crash is finally depleted, new housing starts are up, and our economy is starting to boom again (directly tied to oil prices), so we're expecting values to start rising quickly again.
    There are a lot of people around here buying vacation homes in places like Florida and Arizona...it's crazy - these vacation homes are twice the size and extravagance of their primary homes....but are being bought outright with only a fraction of the equity from their primary residence. ...If the equity in my home reaches anywhere near what it was pre-08 crash, I'm selling, retiring, and moving to Detroit ;)
    Blows me away that a house could sell for $12k. The lumber alone has gotta be worth more than that.

    that moving to detroit comment is hillarious.

    where abouts do you live?
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  • tinkerbelltinkerbell Posts: 2,161
    That poor woman! There have been a huge amount of Mortgagee sales here in recent times, people over capitilising. Banks were lending 100% mortgages to anyone, now it's back to 20% deposits. $12K is incredible though!! Prices have slowly dropped here, but the average hose price in my area is $220-$280K. We are trying hard to save a deposit, hopefully this time next year we will buy our first home.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    tinkerbell wrote:
    That poor woman! There have been a huge amount of Mortgagee sales here in recent times, people over capitilising. Banks were lending 100% mortgages to anyone, now it's back to 20% deposits. $12K is incredible though!! Prices have slowly dropped here, but the average hose price in my area is $220-$280K. We are trying hard to save a deposit, hopefully this time next year we will buy our first home.

    that's an expensive hose.
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  • tinkerbelltinkerbell Posts: 2,161
    tinkerbell wrote:
    That poor woman! There have been a huge amount of Mortgagee sales here in recent times, people over capitilising. Banks were lending 100% mortgages to anyone, now it's back to 20% deposits. $12K is incredible though!! Prices have slowly dropped here, but the average hose price in my area is $220-$280K. We are trying hard to save a deposit, hopefully this time next year we will buy our first home.

    that's an expensive hose.

    Thats an average 3 bedroom, with good sized yard. The average house price in NZ is over $300K, I'm lucky to live in a cheapish area.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,980
    tinkerbell wrote:
    tinkerbell wrote:
    That poor woman! There have been a huge amount of Mortgagee sales here in recent times, people over capitilising. Banks were lending 100% mortgages to anyone, now it's back to 20% deposits. $12K is incredible though!! Prices have slowly dropped here, but the average hose price in my area is $220-$280K. We are trying hard to save a deposit, hopefully this time next year we will buy our first home.

    that's an expensive hose.

    Thats an average 3 bedroom, with good sized yard. The average house price in NZ is over $300K, I'm lucky to live in a cheapish area.
    and she missed it. hehehehe . Good luck Tink.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i dont understand buying a home for investment. shouldnt you just be buying one to live in?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    i dont understand buying a home for investment. shouldnt you just be buying one to live in?

    yes and no.

    not everyone purchases a home that they will undoubtedly spend the rest of their lives in. eventually people will upgrade or downgrade at some point in their lives making it...an investment.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    where abouts do you live?

    Edmonton Canada...
    if you're going to check the numbers, 300% was an exaggeration :lol:....close to 250% tho.

    http://webdocs.edmonton.ca/InfraPlan/la ... 20type.pdf

    The Detroit comment was in jest, but there really was a lot of reverse migration happening between our provinces at the height of the last oil boom. Seems half of Newfoundland moved here...but lots of Albertans bailed to cheaper cities outside the province.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    i dont understand buying a home for investment. shouldnt you just be buying one to live in?
    I don't understand this question...
    Isn't this kinda like asking 'shouldn't you just be buying that stock to make money?'
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    know1 wrote:
    Sounds like an absolutely wonderful time for someone who is a little bit financially challenged to purchase a home.

    That's assuming you can 1) find and 2) hold a job in Detroit nowadays.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    i dont understand buying a home for investment. shouldnt you just be buying one to live in?
    I don't understand this question...
    Isn't this kinda like asking 'shouldn't you just be buying that stock to make money?'

    cate is from australia. they do not have a currency there.
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  • illegal pantsillegal pants Posts: 13,471
    well my generation is screwed to buy a house... :?

    nearly 10 times the annual household income in Sydney i think :eh:
    wah
  • chimechime Posts: 7,838
    I wish London had realised there was supposed to have been a house market crash. When that stuff hit the news I hoped I may actually be able to make it on to the property ladder :oops:

    $300k here MAY get you a studio/one bed apartment ... not necessarily in an area you'd want to live though ;)
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  • tinkerbelltinkerbell Posts: 2,161
    mickeyrat wrote:
    that's an expensive hose.

    and she missed it. hehehehe . Good luck Tink.

    :oops: :lol:
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    what a wonderful way to take away one's nest egg... gotta hand it to em they covered all the bases

    next the fall of retirement plans ... we are already cashing ours in just to live

    no money = no power = dependent on those in power

    but there is still hope...we always have that ... and love
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    pandora wrote:
    what a wonderful way to take away one's nest egg... gotta hand it to em they covered all the bases

    .

    i didn't take away her nest egg.

    :?
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    what a wonderful way to take away one's nest egg... gotta hand it to em they covered all the bases

    .

    i didn't take away her nest egg.

    :?
    oh no I meant the entire housing scandal thats lead to the downfall in property values.

    I do not believe that was an accident...but thats just me.

    There certainly are a lot more renters these days...even the economy specialists now say rent.
    My entire life... it was own a home... trade up.... have a nest egg in the end...
    It's what our parents did, its what we did and now my kids??.....

    Now it is save your money, put it in the bank for the bankers to use and rent.
    Making those with money more powerful.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.

    A buyers market if you can pass the added mortgage scrutiny (which isn't a bad thing) and have the money to put up for a down payment.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    chromiam wrote:
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.

    A buyers market if you can pass the added mortgage scrutiny (which isn't a bad thing) and have the money to put up for a down payment.

    i agree that the tighter underwriting guidelines are a good thing.

    and you can still go fha with 3.5% down.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.
    yes, I know and I think I know who's snatchin em up...landlords ;)
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    chromiam wrote:
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.

    A buyers market if you can pass the added mortgage scrutiny (which isn't a bad thing) and have the money to put up for a down payment.

    i agree that the tighter underwriting guidelines are a good thing.

    and you can still go fha with 3.5% down.

    Didn't know fha requirements were so low, but also remember when buying my first house, that sellers were less than willing to jump through their hoops for a sale. Although I could see that not being the case at this point in time.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,848
    Bought my condo in 2006.
    Its probably lost 25-30% of its value, despite the fact that I live in a highly desirable town with a great school system. It means I will have to stay here longer than I want.

    Effing subprime scumbags. Countrywide was ready to loan me $750,000. I almost bit. Good thing I did not, or I would be one of those people starting from scratch.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,598
    Get_Right wrote:
    Bought my condo in 2006.
    Its probably lost 25-30% of its value, despite the fact that I live in a highly desirable town with a great school system. It means I will have to stay here longer than I want.

    Effing subprime scumbags. Countrywide was ready to loan me $750,000. I almost bit. Good thing I did not, or I would be one of those people starting from scratch.


    countrywide was one of the worst.

    good for you for not biting. as chromiam indicated, it's not only the banks that bare responsibility. it's people not reading/researching what they're signing.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    chromiam wrote:
    'tis a buyers market right now pandora.

    A buyers market if you can pass the added mortgage scrutiny (which isn't a bad thing) and have the money to put up for a down payment.

    A buyer's market is also based on an assumption that the market will go up for a while...who knows if that will be the case...there might be indicators supporting that, but I'm not sold. I'm kinda talkin out my ass, but I have a feeling we'll see another stock market crash in the next year. I know housing can't go much lower, but my uneducated guess is that the rest of the economy will stall the real estate market in most of north america.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Get_Right wrote:
    Bought my condo in 2006.
    Its probably lost 25-30% of its value, despite the fact that I live in a highly desirable town with a great school system. It means I will have to stay here longer than I want.

    Effing subprime scumbags. Countrywide was ready to loan me $750,000. I almost bit. Good thing I did not, or I would be one of those people starting from scratch.


    countrywide was one of the worst.

    good for you for not biting. as chromiam indicated, it's not only the banks that bare responsibility. it's people not reading/researching what they're signing.

    Totally agree. There are a lot of people who bought houses they couldn't afford or figured that they could refi and property values would continue to rise. And some banks preyed on that.

    Like Get Right said, he could have gotten alot more money but knew he couldn't afford it at the end of the day. To me that's what it all comes down to, personal responsibility and knowing what you can and cannot afford.
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  • RKCNDYRKCNDY Posts: 31,013
    chromiam wrote:
    Like Get Right said, he could have gotten alot more money but knew he couldn't afford it at the end of the day. To me that's what it all comes down to, personal responsibility and knowing what you can and cannot afford.

    we could have bought a house that cost more then the house we are in right now, but we decided against it and bought a lower priced home since we were 'first time' buyers. The sellers agent was stupid, and didn't say that the house was in pre-foreclosure, so we went thru a lot more hassle to buy the house (we literally had to physically move the sellers out of the house...throw their stuff in garbage bags and leave it on the street for them to pick up). We were able to re-fi within 1 year and got rid of the PMI, and went to a fixed rate from an ARM. We owe less then what the house is worth, and want to move...but whose gonna buy our house when there are 8 other houses up for short sale? I think banks own half of the houses since the yards are all outta control.
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