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shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
edited April 2011 in A Moving Train
of Americans believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    shadowcast wrote:
    of American believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html
    page not found... but you got me :lol:8-)
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    pandora wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    of American believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html
    page not found... but you got me :lol:8-)
    Check it again I fixed it...
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    shadowcast wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    of American believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html
    page not found... but you got me :lol:8-)
    Check it again I fixed it...
    not nearly as funny as how you put it :lol: ...you should have written the article :lol:

    yea it says chubbier by mid age, maybe it hasn't as much to do with church going as who chooses to go to church...the church goers as in race, gender, lifestyle
    and we all know its that nice big Sunday dinner after church thats the real draw :D
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    shadowcast wrote:
    Like he releases the Kracken or something.
    :lol::lol:
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    shadowcast wrote:
    of Americans believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html

    Scary
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    whygohome wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    of Americans believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html

    Scary
    sad...
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    I'm surprised it's that low of a percentage.

    I always assumed that all adults were smart when I was a kid. I have since then found out it isn't the case.

    I wonder what percentage believe in ghosts and UFO's?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    shadowcast wrote:
    of Americans believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html


    I am confused where the 40% comes from...another article perhaps?
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  • What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
    Maybe its just the confusion of how they can worship something so supposedly "all good" if that thing causes so much pain
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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    i'm confused...the linked article talks about people going to church being fat.
    81 is now off the air

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
    Depends on where you put that faith. Why would anyone want to put their faith in a god that punishes us with natural disasters?

    I think I'd put my faith elsewhere, maybe be a little more optimistic about the unknown.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    of Americans believe God creates natural disasters.....Like he releases the Kracken or something. Also if he can't kill you in a natural disaster he will get you through the trans fat in the Eucharist.

    http://www.suntimes.com/4490719-561/rel ... g-fat.html


    I am confused where the 40% comes from...another article perhaps?
    Yes, sorry 38% believe it's a sign from God. http://wazaghun.blogspot.com/2011/03/na ... f-god.html
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    world is fully of loonies...or at least canada is
    81 is now off the air

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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Bubbles wrote:
    world is fully of loonies...or at least canada is

    Looking at your avatar is like looking into a mirror......freaky
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
    Depends on where you put that faith. Why would anyone want to put their faith in a god that punishes us with natural disasters?

    I think I'd put my faith elsewhere, maybe be a little more optimistic about the unknown.
    No it really doesn't depend on where you put your faith it only matters that you have it
    having faith is a beautiful thing

    sorry but why would you think God is controlling the natural disasters?

    Why would anyone think God is causing pain?

    I never get that part and it is forever used against people of faith...
    that God is somehow bad. God is the good and love in all of us.

    Tragedies happen in nature...
    that is science we all know that.

    It is up to us to help those effected, not God.
    We must make things right here on Earth by Loving and helping others unselfishly,
    by bringing people together. By loving each other.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    pandora wrote:
    What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
    Depends on where you put that faith. Why would anyone want to put their faith in a god that punishes us with natural disasters?

    I think I'd put my faith elsewhere, maybe be a little more optimistic about the unknown.
    No it really doesn't depend on where you put your faith it only matters that you have it
    having faith is a beautiful thing

    sorry but why would you think God is controlling the natural disasters?

    Why would anyone think God is causing pain?

    I never get that part and it is forever used against people of faith...
    that God is somehow bad. God is the good and love in all of us.

    Tragedies happen in nature...
    that is science we all know that.

    It is up to us to help those effected, not God.
    We must make things right here on Earth by Loving and helping others unselfishly,
    by bringing people together. By loving each other.
    You are agreeing with me, right? Because I agree with you 100%.. Maybe you misunderstood what I typed?

    My point was, if you are going to have faith, why not put it in a loving god, not a vengeful one. Why would anyone want to believe god gets angry and punishes us.


    If you're going to have faith, why not choose a positive, optimistic faith?
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Depends on where you put that faith. Why would anyone want to put their faith in a god that punishes us with natural disasters?

    I think I'd put my faith elsewhere, maybe be a little more optimistic about the unknown.
    No it really doesn't depend on where you put your faith it only matters that you have it
    having faith is a beautiful thing

    sorry but why would you think God is controlling the natural disasters?

    Why would anyone think God is causing pain?

    I never get that part and it is forever used against people of faith...
    that God is somehow bad. God is the good and love in all of us.

    Tragedies happen in nature...
    that is science we all know that.

    It is up to us to help those effected, not God.
    We must make things right here on Earth by Loving and helping others unselfishly,
    by bringing people together. By loving each other.
    You are agreeing with me, right? Because I agree with you 100%.. Maybe you misunderstood what I typed?

    My point was, if you are going to have faith, why not put it in a loving god, not a vengeful one. Why would anyone want to believe god gets angry and punishes us.


    If you're going to have faith, why not choose a positive, optimistic faith?
    I'm very sorry :oops:
    I did totally misunderstand and believe in Love and a loving God.
    Yes I am agreeing with you....No wrath of God in my heart.
    Please forgive me, very sorry for the misunderstanding. :oops:
  • so is the story of Noah and the arc, and God killing nearly every living thing on the planet just a tall tale in the eyes of christians, or a part of the bible they can explain away as being hyperbole?

    I don't get how people who quote the bible as a means to live also can discredit some of its passages.
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Paul David wrote:
    so is the story of Noah and the arc, and God killing nearly every living thing on the planet just a tall tale in the eyes of christians, or a part of the bible they can explain away as being hyperbole?

    I don't get how people who quote the bible as a means to live also can discredit some of its passages.


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  • Paul David wrote:
    so is the story of Noah and the arc, and God killing nearly every living thing on the planet just a tall tale in the eyes of christians, or a part of the bible they can explain away as being hyperbole?

    I don't get how people who quote the bible as a means to live also can discredit some of its passages.


    convenience?

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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Paul David wrote:
    so is the story of Noah and the arc, and God killing nearly every living thing on the planet just a tall tale in the eyes of christians, or a part of the bible they can explain away as being hyperbole?

    I don't get how people who quote the bible as a means to live also can discredit some of its passages.


    convenience?

    The bible is full of examples of the wrath of god towards those that 'sinned' (whatever the sin may be). Basically, if you didn't 'comply', you were in deep doo-doo! It's obviously also full of 'love' for the 'righteous' (again, whatever those may be). So, be good and I love you and will be nice to you, don't follow my teachings and you will be at the receiving end of my wrath - I'll make you suffer/kill you (and you will go to hell as well....).

    That apart, I really can't understand how supposedly educated people can still believe that events that are 'common' and perfectly explained scientifically can still be seen as a 'god' thing.
  • redrock wrote:
    The bible is full of examples of the wrath of god towards those that 'sinned' (whatever the sin may be). Basically, if you didn't 'comply', you were in deep doo-doo! It's obviously also full of 'love' for the 'righteous' (again, whatever those may be). So, be good and I love you and will be nice to you, don't follow my teachings and you will be at the receiving end of my wrath - I'll make you suffer/kill you (and you will go to hell as well....).

    That apart, I really can't understand how supposedly educated people can still believe that events that are 'common' and perfectly explained scientifically can still be seen as a 'god' thing.

    I don't know that education really has anything to do with it; yes, science can explain it, as we see it, but they may believe that God is behind the science of things as well.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I've never much read the Bible...I have a hard time bonding with it.

    Couldn't tell you even what is in it but I think some take from it a moral to a story kind of thing.

    That out of the stories one can take a moral or example to live by.

    I like that idea and when I drive past churches I love to read on their signs
    what the sermons are coming up for that Sunday or thought for the day are.

    The sermons and thoughts are good..you know, very very good.

    You won't find stuff like that anywhere else in your everyday life.

    The people go... meet up with many friends...they listen and reflect and try to be
    or do better.

    Kindness, civility, generosity, relating to current events in a loving way
    and finding coping mechanisms, love, beautiful topics thoughts for us all.

    I am glad there are churches and religions to bring people together.

    We need that.... it is a positive thing.

    I admire people who take the time for religion very much.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Paul David wrote:
    .... yes, science can explain it, as we see it, but they may believe that God is behind the science of things as well.

    True. God's will. But then back to square one as to why a benevolent god would do such things....
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Good things come from horrible tragedies

    like love and kindness, strength and appreciation

    it is not how long one lives it is how much they learn and grow...
    from challenges even terrible ones ...painful horrible

    then you will travel your path...your journey on into the afterlife

    once you have the big picture of this.... you understand God
  • What's wrong with people having faith in something, exactly?
    Depends on where you put that faith. Why would anyone want to put their faith in a god that punishes us with natural disasters?

    I think I'd put my faith elsewhere, maybe be a little more optimistic about the unknown.

    God has His reasons for the judgements He allows on the world.

    As for optimism, it's all over the Bible. I couldn't be more optimistic about the nature of God and what comes after this life.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • redrock wrote:
    Paul David wrote:
    .... yes, science can explain it, as we see it, but they may believe that God is behind the science of things as well.

    True. God's will. But then back to square one as to why a benevolent god would do such things....

    Man was never meant to fall into sin, as was the case at the Garden of Eden. When sin entered in, God's judgements entered in also.

    Jesus Christ is proof of God's benevolent nature. He is loving, but He is fair.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    redrock wrote:
    Paul David wrote:
    .... yes, science can explain it, as we see it, but they may believe that God is behind the science of things as well.

    True. God's will. But then back to square one as to why a benevolent god would do such things....

    Man was never meant to fall into sin, as was the case at the Garden of Eden. When sin entered in, God's judgements entered in also.

    Jesus Christ is proof of God's benevolent nature. He is loving, but He is fair.


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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    God works is mysterious ways....Mass death, disease, naughty priests and popes covering them up just to name a few. I think the God in the bible has a low self esteem problem.

    Also, how did the bible get to be the word of God and not have mans spin and additional things added to it throughout the years? I mean now-a-days with mass communication like Internet, phones, e-mail & texting people still get the facts or stories crossed up or incorrect. Back in those days everything was communicated by word of mouth so there had to be some twisting of the bible. So instead f the word of God you might get the word of "Jimmy the stone thrower."
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