Pearl Jam Hypocrisy

force-10

Plus, you don´t really think those muisical instruments are cheap, do you? How about recording an album, or a single song?

These issues are huge here in Guatemala. Have you heard a guatemalan band? No "big" corporations support them. A musician here has to earn a living as something else. Not as a musician. I really love two bands here. Bands that I think would have made it if they were somewhere else. Like USA or europe.

I would not trash them for making a deal with a huge company to promote themselves. As long as their music stays true to themselves, it would not matter. Even if its used in a commercial. Who am I to judge that?

dwhite76

I wonder if the OP is a Jewel fan or Jewel herself and came across that clip for the first time and was pissed off.

gfnk001

The artist should want as many people to experience their art, so it's all about marketing these days. If a store selling their art is promoting it, then so-be-it. No biggie. They're not sell-outs because they market themselves. They gave in to ticketmaster so we could see them perform. No one mentions that anymore.

satansbed

adamdude wrote:

please DONT delete this thread, please allow open discussion and debate like Pearl Jam used to encourage.

The comedian Bill Hicks said that the second an artist endorses a product they were off the roll call forever because you could never trust a thing they would say after that.

EV: Yeah, that's how I feel. I saw something with Wyclef Jean last night for some fucking product and Counting Crows for Coca-Cola or something. Fuck them. Busta Rhymes for anti-perspirant? What the fuck is that? Why? They have a set of morals they can run with and that's fine but I'm just gonna say, "Fuck you".

http://www.elsewhere.co.nz/absoluteelsewhere/1668/eddie-vedder-of-pearl-jam-interviewed-in-seattle-2002-reading-their-riot-act/

How are those commercials different from lip syncing in front of a target logo?

How do you guys justify that hypocrisy?

It feels to me like Pearl Jam arent interested in the music as much any more and its become more of a job. The Fixer certainly sounds to me like its made 100% to make money rather than express anything or be creative. The Fixer demo sounded like it could have become a really great song, so maybe this is all Eddie, since he's the one who "fixed" it. But it was all Eddie that was against that kind of thing even 6 years ago. I just dont understand and I don't really understand how they seem to have managed to get away with it. I mean, the amount of social commentary and depth in songs like Grievance and Insignificane is amazing. Those songs still amaze me 11 years later. The lyrical content on riot act is incredible. They were going in such an interesting direction but then they came out with S/T and it seemed like they were forcing themselves in a direction that doesnt feel natural because it will make them more money. I really just want to discuss this guys, I'm not looking to make anyone feel bad for liking post-2005 pearl jam. i just wannt know your guys thoughts on this.

two pearl jam videos to watch back to back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrJQt78KxUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-QYAWXK7fo

So Eddie, I'm just gonna say, "Fuck you."

just please watch the two videos and read this post and respond with some intelligent debate, dont get angry at me for my opinion.
looking forward to responses

because A it wasn't lip synched, and B the product they where 'selling' was themselves

UpSideDown

The Verizon 2008 sponsoring actually bothered me more than the Target thing. I never understood what the hell they were trying to do with Verizon, and that actually affected the concert experience directly (seeing huge billboards and promotions everywhere).

kenny olav

Pearl Jam has nothing to apologize for. I'm not sure if the Target deal was the wisest move for them, simply because of the confusion it caused, but I understand why they did it.

Backspacer sounds every bit as real as every other Pearl Jam album. It's brimming with honest emotion. I found The Fixer very touching the first time I heard it... still do. The End is one of the saddest songs ever put to record. You can't fake that.

It just seems absurd to get upset about it. Every artist "sells out" in a sense... at least Pearl Jam is consciously minimizing it. Even if Pearl Jam suddenly developed a Nickelback-like ethos toward making music, which I can't ever see happening, what does it really matter? The world is increasingly fucked up every year... I'm not sure if human civilization will still exist by the time this century is over. So fuck all this noise.

Plus, I've been shopping at Target for many years. :thumbup:

Kat

A discussion of business practices is one thing on the site provided by the band, but it's not ok to say F you to the band. See the Posting Guidelines and follow them to avoid your account becoming read-only.

There are a few other threads around here on this topic and people did not make that rude comment. Find them because this one is done.

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