Is Obama a one term prez ?

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited November 2012 in A Moving Train
I would laugh my azz of if huckabee ran and got elected... this place would be a burning hot bed of dem's and raspy remarks. :lol:

Godfather.


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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    NO. He will win in 2012. His move to the center and his moves on gay rights have put him in a good spot for reelection. And, I think a majority of Independents will vote for him.

    That said, the Republicans will take the White House in 2016 (look at the voting records of the U.S. - see below), and they will own Congress at the same time.

    1953-1961: Rep
    1961-1969: De,
    1969-1977: Rep
    1977-1981: Dem
    1981-1993: Rep
    1993-2001: Dem
    2001-2009: Rep, and a Rep controlled Congress from 2001-2007
    2009-2017: Dem
    2017-2021 or 2025: Rep.

    See a trend?
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Huckabee's comments last week and his generally socially conservative stance will lose him with independents. Romney won't win the nomination due to passing healthcare in MASS.

    I think Obama wins.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Godfather. wrote:
    I would laugh my azz of if huckabee ran and got elected... this place would be a burning hot bed of dem's and raspy remarks. :lol:

    Godfather.


    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/08/b ... ml?hpt=C1#
    as i said in the other thread, huckabee is unelectable. if unemployment goes down, we get the hell out of the middle east, and home prices begin to rebound he will win again easily. the republicans are digging their own graves with their policies against the midle class, against labor, and cutting everything under the sun while keeping taxes for the rich in place.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    I would laugh my azz of if huckabee ran and got elected... this place would be a burning hot bed of dem's and raspy remarks. :lol:

    Godfather.


    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/08/b ... ml?hpt=C1#
    as i said in the other thread, huckabee is unelectable. if unemployment goes down, we get the hell out of the middle east, and home prices begin to rebound he will win again easily. the republicans are digging their own graves with their policies against the midle class, against labor, and cutting everything under the sun while keeping taxes for the rich in place.

    I don't think huckabee has a snowballs chance in hell, I all joking aside would like to see a good dem in office, I just enjoy throwing the repub card around cause people on here get so wiggie about it....sick twisted sense of humor..maybe.. but it's just so fun sometimes to move against the grain. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Godfather. wrote:
    I would laugh my azz of if huckabee ran and got elected... this place would be a burning hot bed of dem's and raspy remarks. :lol:

    Godfather.


    http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/08/b ... ml?hpt=C1#


    i think things would have to go drastically wrong for him to not be re-elected. With the dow already over 12,000 and wall street big wigs pretty happy with the man in charge I don't see a way he is not re-elected. Which sucks because we will get the same non-sense we have dealt with for the last 10 years. ... Seems like no matter who wins we will end up with a continuation of gitmo, the patriot act, war, being the world's policeman, none of that will change, I am pretty sure they could put that cross-eyed german possum in a suit and it could be president...sure where they spend the money is a little different, in reality nothing changes so all you really need is a place-holder anyway...

    Obama in a situation where he won't have to worry about being re-elected could be very interesting. We might get to see him at his best in that situation.

    That being said...Ron Paul for Place-Holder 2012!!!!
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  • byttermanbytterman Posts: 136
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I am pretty sure they could put that cross-eyed german possum in a suit and it could be president...

    I didn't think W was allowed back.

    Sorry all kidding aside there doesn't seem to be an electable Republican. Doesn't everyone of the likely suspects divide the GOP in some way? Obviously some are more polarizing than others (particularly Palin?) but it seems that every one of them has a history or platform aspect that pisses off lots of people.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Really, do people think that there life will be any better with another person. News flash...politicians don't work for you, when are people going to come to terms with that, so sooner the majority realizes that then maybe things will change.
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  • There won't be much of a country left if he isn't.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    There won't be much of a country left if he isn't.

    Huh? Were you/are you a drama major by any chance?

    I believe he will be re-elected. He isn't the guy I thought he was but the Republicans don't seem to be offereing up and legit worthy competitor. So I think the devil we know will beat the devil we don't.
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  • There won't be much of a country left if he isn't.

    Huh? Were you/are you a drama major by any chance?

    I believe he will be re-elected. He isn't the guy I thought he was but the Republicans don't seem to be offereing up and legit worthy competitor. So I think the devil we know will beat the devil we don't.

    Do you watch the news by any chance?
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    There won't be much of a country left if he isn't.

    Huh? Were you/are you a drama major by any chance?

    I believe he will be re-elected. He isn't the guy I thought he was but the Republicans don't seem to be offereing up and legit worthy competitor. So I think the devil we know will beat the devil we don't.

    Do you watch the news by any chance?


    Nope, I'm too scared of the black guy that is taking away all my freedoms.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303

    Nope, I'm too scared of the black guy that is taking away all my freedoms.
    :lol:

    well played.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    It's hard to tell. G.H. Bush had a 90% approval rating going into the election year. It didn't seem possible he could lose. Then the economy went south and so did his approval rating.

    I do think someone is going to have to climb the ranks and become a viable candidate. I think Palin / Newt / Huckabee are a little too polarizing. I think Romney hit his apex a few years back. I think Mitch Daniels would be an excellent leader but he doesn't have a national name brand or the "look". Daniels also isn't a fanatic on social issues and that would disappoint the far-right fringe.

    Hell, maybe the GOP will throw a curveball and send Ron Paul out to the plate.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    I think there is a chance that Ron Paul could beat Obama.

    But he'd have to get the nomination first. And that is VERY unlikely.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    brandon10 wrote:
    I think there is a chance that Ron Paul could beat Obama.

    But he'd have to get the nomination first. And that is VERY unlikely.
    No way in hell he'd get the nomination. And as soon as he was in office, how does he plan on implementing the radical policies through a congress controlled by either party.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    brandon10 wrote:
    I think there is a chance that Ron Paul could beat Obama.

    But he'd have to get the nomination first. And that is VERY unlikely.
    No way in hell he'd get the nomination. And as soon as he was in office, how does he plan on implementing the radical policies through a congress controlled by either party.
    exactly. he would not be able to implement any of his initiatives. look at what a stubborn congress has done to obama's presidency. i doubt that even some hardcore republicans would go along with ron paul's views on many things, especially his views on foreign policy and policing the rest of the world....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    I didn't say that Ron Paul could get his ideas accomplished. I just said that if he miraculously won the nomination, he just may be able to beat Obama.

    And the only reason I say this is because no one on the right will ever vote for Obama. And I believe that Paul could steal a lot of the votes from liberals hoping that there is a slim chance Paul can implement some change on foreign policy and fiscal issues.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Ron Paul is one of the two politicians considered "outside the machine and rattling its chains", the machine being Washington politics. There's no way a conforming Congress will ever go with any of his outside of the box thinking, no matter how much the public may agree with him. What goes hand-in-hand with the Washington political machine is the mainstream media, which will do whatever it has to, to persuade the public from voting him in. And sadly, the public is stupid enough to believe everything they hear from the media.
  • Let's look at the potential Republicans and the chances of them winning...

    Palin? Obama in a fucking landslide
    Huckabee? Same... loony tune
    Romney? Mormon!
    Trump? PLEASE...
    Santorum? He's a goon... no way
    Christie, if the governor from Jersey ran... he might actually have a chance. But he's not going to.

    Right now... the Republican party doesn't have a single candidate that can beat Obama. Unless a savior shows up in the next 6 months or Obama does something SERIOUSLY dumb... there is almost no chance that Obama is a one-term president.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Let's look at the potential Republicans and the chances of them winning...

    Palin? Obama in a fucking landslide
    Huckabee? Same... loony tune
    Romney? Mormon!
    Trump? PLEASE...
    Santorum? He's a goon... no way
    Christie, if the governor from Jersey ran... he might actually have a chance. But he's not going to.

    Right now... the Republican party doesn't have a single candidate that can beat Obama. Unless a savior shows up in the next 6 months or Obama does something SERIOUSLY dumb... there is almost no chance that Obama is a one-term president.


    I agree. But, it has happened before. Just look back a little ways to see when a governor from a small southern state ended up beating an incumbent president.
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  • bennett13bennett13 Posts: 439
    It seems that both Obama and the visible Republican possibilities are all far too polarizing to catch those swing voters necessary to be elected. Who knows? Maybe this next election will be the one in which a third party finally gets a crack at the presidency? Libertarian, anyone? A guy can dream, can't he?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I like most of the democrat ideas of government but as far as a party of choice I don't really have one,I just wait for the best lies(promises) and a gut feeling with some research and go from there.

    Godfather.
  • Nope, I'm too scared of the black guy that is taking away all my freedoms.[/quote]


    Yes, because those who disapprove of Obama's policies are obviously racist.

    It actually wasn't well played at all; it was ignorant and typical.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Nope, I'm too scared of the black guy that is taking away all my freedoms.


    Yes, because those who disapprove of Obama's policies are obviously racist.

    It actually wasn't well played at all; it was ignorant and typical.[/quote]


    Hahaha....it's pretty funny because I would agree with you regarding the fact that too many people throw out the racist card with Obama. I was just messing with ya.

    Just seems like you may be a bit over the top. Not much country left? How so?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    and cincy calls me dramatic :shock:

    :mrgreen:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    and cincy calls me dramatic :shock:

    :mrgreen:

    :lol:
    hippiemom = goodness
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    When I hear about Romney, Palin, Gingrich, Trump and all the rest of potential "Candidates" for 2012 I just keep hearing George's voice in my head, "They come from American businesses, American Schools, American Universities and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces. Garbage in, garbage out. "
  • bennett13 wrote:
    It seems that both Obama and the visible Republican possibilities are all far too polarizing to catch those swing voters necessary to be elected.


    Yeah. Obama wasn't able to get the swing voters to vote for him before, was he?

    Or the "Obama Republicans," either.

    IT was just those libbie socialists who voted for him.

    Um... wait, what?







    MANY people have under-estimated Barack Obama and paid the political price for it.

    Ask John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and for that matter... ask John Boener in about a year.
  • KravenKraven Posts: 829
    Jeanwah wrote:
    When I hear about Romney, Palin, Gingrich, Trump and all the rest of potential "Candidates" for 2012 I just keep hearing George's voice in my head, "They come from American businesses, American Schools, American Universities and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces. Garbage in, garbage out. "

    This just made me laugh, and its such a great point, may George rest in peace.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I was eating lunch today with my 10 year old grandson when his mom asked him
    "What is tomorrow?" He said "It's President's Day"

    She asked "What does that mean?" .... I was waiting for something profound....

    He said "President's Day is when Obama steps out of the White House and if he sees his shadow,
    we have 2 more years of unemployment and stupidity."

    I almost snorted my iced tea.


    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
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