Scholarship for White Male Students Only

IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
edited March 2011 in A Moving Train
http://arkansasmatters.com/news-fulltext?nxd_id=399376

A new scholarship is being offered in Texas, but only white men with a 3.0 grade-point average can apply.

The "Austin American-Statesmen" reports a Texas nonprofit group called the Former Majority Association for Equality is behind the scholarships.

Texas State University student Colby Bohannan says he launched the group after returning from the Iraq war to find there were college scholarships for women and minorities, but white males were left out.

Finally White Males will have an equal opportunity to educate themselves.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    8-)
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
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  • MD97728MD97728 Posts: 115
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,933
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'

    I agree. It's perfectly okay to give out scholarships exclusively to certain groups but say it's for white males only and people go nuts. What's the big deal anyway? The people offering the scholarship can give it to whomever they like, they're the ones forking out the money.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    White male Americans are awarded a scholarship at birth!

    (here we go!)
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'

    I hope your son get's the best education.

    But a question, The highest paying and most powerful/influential jobs in Texas are still held by white males mostly.

    How would one balance that equation? Perhaps find out why it's like that, then maybe we can come to a better understanding in regards to a White only Scholarship.

    Are White males in Texas better qualified? Perhaps, if that's the case then maybe the time is not yet right for a White only Scholarship? Well until the field is truly balanced?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    MrAbraham wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'

    I hope your son get's the best education.

    But a question, The highest paying and most powerful/influential jobs in Texas are still held by white males mostly.

    How would one balance that equation? Perhaps find out why it's like that, then maybe we can come to a better understanding in regards to a White only Scholarship.

    Are White males in Texas better qualified? Perhaps, if that's the case then maybe the time is not yet right for a White only Scholarship? Well until the field is truly balanced?

    with all the other minority and female only scholarships you would sure think the opportunity to balance the equation has been here for quite some time now so no offense but I'm going to have to call bullshit on this.

    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    eddiec wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'

    I agree. It's perfectly okay to give out scholarships exclusively to certain groups but say it's for white males only and people go nuts. What's the big deal anyway? The people offering the scholarship can give it to whomever they like, they're the ones forking out the money.
    yeah yeah yeah white man's burden, right??

    you forget who has held the power in academia the last few hundred years.

    no, it couldn't be because historically it was mainly only white males who were the only ones allowed into colleges. women were not readily accepted into public colleges, hence the creation of women's colleges. and let's not forget that it was not until the 1960s where a black woman could even enroll in the university of alabama. white males are still the majority in this counrty, so as a result they would take more of the scholarship money. i have no issue with minority groups having their own scholarship funds. if historically all scholarships were given to whoever was the most qualified then we would not have had to implement things like this.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited March 2011
    eddiec wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'

    I agree. It's perfectly okay to give out scholarships exclusively to certain groups but say it's for white males only and people go nuts. What's the big deal anyway? The people offering the scholarship can give it to whomever they like, they're the ones forking out the money.
    yeah yeah yeah white man's burden, right??

    you forget who has held the power in academia the last few hundred years.

    no, it couldn't be because historically it was mainly only white males who were the only ones allowed into colleges. women were not readily accepted into public colleges, hence the creation of women's colleges. and let's not forget that it was not until the 1960s where a black woman could even enroll in the university of alabama. white males are still the majority in this counrty, so as a result they would take more of the scholarship money. i have no issue with minority groups having their own scholarship funds. if historically all scholarships were given to whoever was the most qualified then we would not have had to implement things like this.

    do you think the most qualified are getting a fair opportunity for colleges with the current way of doing business
    with minority and women only scholarships ? or is just a way to even out the books.

    Godfather.
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,933
    yeah yeah yeah white man's burden, right??

    you forget who has held the power in academia the last few hundred years.

    no, it couldn't be because historically it was mainly only white males who were the only ones allowed into colleges. women were not readily accepted into public colleges, hence the creation of women's colleges. and let's not forget that it was not until the 1960s where a black woman could even enroll in the university of alabama. white males are still the majority in this counrty, so as a result they would take more of the scholarship money. i have no issue with minority groups having their own scholarship funds. if historically all scholarships were given to whoever was the most qualified then we would not have had to implement things like this.

    I have no problem with minority only scholarships. They are neccessary. But the last time I checked not all white Texan males were Republican oil barons. Texas has several towns listed among the worst places to live in the US so if someone wants to hand out scholarships where's the problem?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    MD97728 wrote:
    about freaking time! as the mother of a 17 year old white male who is entering college come september - 'bout effing time! we have searched quite a bit of scholarships and there are tons for girls only, spanish only, african american only, irish only, italian only......... the list is ridiculous and my son can't qualify for like 99%! but of course you know some one is going to get their panties in a bunch about this and they'll have to offer it to 'everyone.'
    ...
    How about raising a smart kid?
    ...
    Oh... yeah... then, he'll have to be Asian.
    ...
    Nevermind.
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    For a long time, some of the most-qualified were denied the right to a good education and the less-qualified took their spots.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    I am normally not one to get in on race debates, but I don't understand the issue here...there are scholarships for all things and all people...it really is up to the administrators of the scholarship to make sure that the most deserving "white" male gets the scholarship...like the eddiec said, there are poor white people too who need scholarships like this, but I guess I always think of Appalachia when i think of people that fit that mold, I guess I have a different perception of Texas than the reality of the small town life they have there...
    Realistically all scholarships should be available to all people, but if someone wants to put stipulations on the money they give out, well then more power to them.
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  • Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    How about we offer more scholarships for smart kids? :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    edited March 2011
    ok
    lemme see if i got this
    white men were the only ones with college educations for hundreds of years
    white men reaped all of the benefits from this for hundreds of years
    minorities and women suffered the consequences of this for hundreds of years
    white men are still today are by far in the majority regarding salary and position
    and we have people here visibly upset with minorities and women receiving scholarships
    sad
    Post edited by ed243421 on
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  • MD97728MD97728 Posts: 115
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    :clap::clap::clap::clap:

    Godfather.
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    Unfortunately, your son is paying the price for past wrongs.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    Unfortunately, your son is paying the price for past wrongs.

    If the playing field has truly been equaled, what do we make of the high powered jobs mostly going to white males?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    The transition at the top of the pyrimid is gona take a little longer than the rest of the pyrimid.
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    you want to live in the "here and now"
    and forget about the "there and then"
    because "here and now", it affects you
    i got ya
    white men are still the privledged
    your son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships
    because white men fucked it up for so many years
    and lemme guess, the "someone" he knew enough to get him a job was white, right?
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education
    and not just from knowing "somebody"
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
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    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education

    doesn't this apply to everybody?
  • Soulfire42Soulfire42 Posts: 404
    While I do not think "Whites Only" scholarships are an adequate or appropriate solution, I have personally experienced this problem. I had a stellar GPA and pretty much everything else that you're told to have for gaining scholarships. When I went to the scholarship "box" with all the forms for various scholarships I suddenly found myself faced with the reality of the situation. As a white male, I really was limited in what I could apply for and there was nothing which I could apply for that people with other skin colors could not ALSO apply for, yet I was not permitted to apply for all the extra stuff they could. Flipping around the discrimination doesn't really help to end discrimination. Yes, I got to see what it was probably like for minorities in the past, but turning me into a minority in this situation wasn't just. I was a poor white kid raised by a single mother. I played by all the academic rules and was in the gifted classes, etc. I ended up getting a rather lowly rotary club scholarship provided from our local rotary club. At the end of things, I found myself saddled with huge debt and watched people who happened to have a different skin color get full rides despite having comparitively pathetic academic achievements both prior to and during their college lives. Perhaps we'd be a lot better off if every application were blank about race and people were identified by numbers or something and everyone could apply fairly. I can't help but think that giving anyone benefits due to their bloodline, skin tone, cultural affinity, etc. is going to be the way to right previous wrongs about favoritism. It's a tough situation, but I honestly felt disadvantaged by having white skin when it came to scholarships and that feeling did not come from any desire to disadvantage others.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    edited March 2011
    The transition at the top of the pyrimid is gona take a little longer than the rest of the pyrimid.

    For sure, which brings into question, if that part of the puzzle/problem is yet to be solved, is it the right time for said scholarship to start going around?

    The fear may be that with a white only scholarship at this point in time, it will in turn just push other minority scholarships out of the way, since the top of the pyramid is yet to be fixed. In regards to Top Jobs.

    As it's been said before, scholarships should go to the people who need it most, who deserver it most would be more accurate, by deserve I mean, how developed is the person applying for a scholarship? Does the person have the mental ability capable of using the education he or she will receive to better this world? Perhaps that is the question that should be asked. Not simply based on skin color,
    Post edited by Idris on
  • Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    ed243421 wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    you want to live in the "here and now"
    and forget about the "there and then"
    because "here and now", it affects you
    i got ya
    white men are still the privledged
    your son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships
    because white men fucked it up for so many years
    and lemme guess, the "someone" he knew enough to get him a job was white, right?
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education
    and not just from knowing "somebody"

    Easy dude, the "someone" he knew to get a minimum wage job was probably a friend, that most likely already worked there. You have no idea how hard this kid worked in school and neither do I, so if you want to defend your point, you're not going to win anyone over here by belittling this woman's son.
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  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education

    doesn't this apply to everybody?

    yup
    and it could be this way
    if white men had not fucked it up so badly that we now have to help the ones we held down for so long
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  • Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    Soulfire42 wrote:
    While I do not think "Whites Only" scholarships are an adequate or appropriate solution, I have personally experienced this problem. I had a stellar GPA and pretty much everything else that you're told to have for gaining scholarships. When I went to the scholarship "box" with all the forms for various scholarships I suddenly found myself faced with the reality of the situation. As a white male, I really was limited in what I could apply for and there was nothing which I could apply for that people with other skin colors could not ALSO apply for, yet I was not permitted to apply for all the extra stuff they could. Flipping around the discrimination doesn't really help to end discrimination. Yes, I got to see what it was probably like for minorities in the past, but turning me into a minority in this situation wasn't just. I was a poor white kid raised by a single mother. I played by all the academic rules and was in the gifted classes, etc. I ended up getting a rather lowly rotary club scholarship provided from our local rotary club. At the end of things, I found myself saddled with huge debt and watched people who happened to have a different skin color get full rides despite having comparitively pathetic academic achievements both prior to and during their college lives. Perhaps we'd be a lot better off if every application were blank about race and people were identified by numbers or something and everyone could apply fairly. I can't help but think that giving anyone benefits due to their bloodline, skin tone, cultural affinity, etc. is going to be the way to right previous wrongs about favoritism. It's a tough situation, but I honestly felt disadvantaged by having white skin when it came to scholarships and that feeling did not come from any desire to disadvantage others.

    This is very eloquently spoken, and I hope everyone on this thread takes the time to read it.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me ...
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    Big Drop wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:
    MD97728 wrote:
    r u kidding me? i live in the here and now and in my 'here and now' everyone is struggling including white males - and i have 3 of them to put through college! just because years and years ago white males were considered "privledged" certainly doesn't mean that's the case now. everyone is struggling - my son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships because he is who he is - white male. and not for nothing -- he had to 'know someone' to finally land a minimum wage job yet i know plenty who are minorities whose kids are 'eligible' for tons of programs and internships because they are not 'white.' i see quite a bit of reverse discrimination.

    you want to live in the "here and now"
    and forget about the "there and then"
    because "here and now", it affects you
    i got ya
    white men are still the privledged
    your son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships
    because white men fucked it up for so many years
    and lemme guess, the "someone" he knew enough to get him a job was white, right?
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education
    and not just from knowing "somebody"

    Easy dude, the "someone" he knew to get a minimum wage job was probably a friend, that most likely already worked there. You have no idea how hard this kid worked in school and neither do I, so if you want to defend your point, you're not going to win anyone over here by belittling this woman's son.

    i am not at all trying to belittle this womans son
    sorry if it sounded that way
    i actually mean it is too bad
    i hope the best for him
    as i do for the minorities and women that have been held back for so long
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









  • Break The SkyBreak The Sky Posts: 1,276
    ed243421 wrote:
    Big Drop wrote:
    ed243421 wrote:

    you want to live in the "here and now"
    and forget about the "there and then"
    because "here and now", it affects you
    i got ya
    white men are still the privledged
    your son can't apply for a shit load of scholarships
    because white men fucked it up for so many years
    and lemme guess, the "someone" he knew enough to get him a job was white, right?
    too bad he could not have done better in school
    and received scholarships based on his ability and knowledge
    and earn a living based on hard work and education
    and not just from knowing "somebody"

    Easy dude, the "someone" he knew to get a minimum wage job was probably a friend, that most likely already worked there. You have no idea how hard this kid worked in school and neither do I, so if you want to defend your point, you're not going to win anyone over here by belittling this woman's son.

    i am not at all trying to belittle this womans son
    sorry if it sounded that way
    i actually mean it is too bad
    i hope the best for him
    as i do for the minorities and women that have been held back for so long

    I understand. I wish there was a way we could stop seeing eachother in colors and start seeing eachother by the goals we set for ourselves. That would require time and patience, though, and far too few people exhibit those characteristics.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me ...
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Maybe more Universities should make offers like this one we would not have to speak on this scholarship in Texas..

    Harvard University Offers Free Tuition For Low Income Families

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    Reinforcing its commitment to opportunity and excellence across the economic spectrum, Harvard announced a significant expansion of its 2004 financial aid initiative for low- and middle-income families. Beginning with the class admitted this week, parents in families with incomes of less than $60,000 will no longer be expected to contribute to the cost of their children attending Harvard. In addition, Harvard will reduce the contributions of families with incomes between $60,000 and $80,000.

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