Pearl Jam pulling a Radiohead

1STmammal2wearPants

So how would you guys like it if the band charted new territory this time around and moved a bit away from punky/rock tracks into experimental? That's what I'm hoping for on LP 10, personally....

Wouldn't hurt to see a self-release in the vein of RH, either......

Parksy

Hmmm...

I don't think it would work. As hardcore PJ fans its difficult to suggest that Pearl Jam 'can't' do something.

But if Pearl Jam strayed from the road their on as much as Radiohead did... I don't think it would work out.

They've established themselves as "Hard Rock - Rock" and I can't seem them succeeding in any way if they deviate from that path.

Variations from Rock 'may' work... perhaps a more folkier album... but if they stray too far from Rock - Hard Rock.. they would fail. And I don't think they would want to anyways.



It'd be neat to see them attempt though I suppose. Neil Young did. (and failed)

An excellent hockey analogy suggests "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

So by that logic... it wouldn't hurt them by any means, but personally I don't think it would be good.

I love Radiohead though. Pablo Honey straight through to King of Limbs.

RedMosquito22

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

So how would you guys like it if the band charted new territory this time around and moved a bit away from punky/rock tracks into experimental? That's what I'm hoping for on LP 10, personally....

Wouldn't hurt to see a self-release in the vein of RH, either......

I think their sound has constantly been changing. Yeah they play rock but I think each album has sounded different. If they get into the radiohead electronic garbage, I'd be very disappointed. This lates Radiohead album is ok at best.

What I want them to do more than anything else is going back to recording on a big board to tape. No more digital recording please!!!!!!

twisted thoughts

seeing how some Radiohead fans are hating on the new album and the direction they have taken from their roots, I'd say it could potentially be suicide for PJ.

i, however invite creativity. avacado and backspacer were the weakest links in my opinion, and i dont think they could get much worse if they tried some experimenting (not saying i dont like those albums, they're just my least favorite out of their catalog). step away from the safety zone. let mike and stone write some songs. call up Nigel Godrich. With Nigel, PJ could do some amazing stuff.

Johnny Aggro

IMO i see no reason why they couldnt attempt it. I suppose its more of a case of wanting to or not. You Are was a little down that road, but again keeping a rock theme to it. They certainly have no fear of bad press or anything, but i think Radiohead in someways are less creative within the rock genre. Matt really did inject new life to the band with his off beats and 3/4 timings and i think Pearl Jam have more scope within the rock genre to be more creative that Radiohead, hence why RH moved away from rock in its truer form.

Pablo Honey and The Bends in my top 50 LPs, but after OK Computer, my interest wained somewhat.

ajb

for me it would be beautiful a second BINAURAL

1STmammal2wearPants

Johnny Aggro wrote:

IMO i see no reason why they couldnt attempt it. I suppose its more of a case of wanting to or not. You Are was a little down that road, but again keeping a rock theme to it.

Yeah, I'm not saying go all techno -- something like what you mentioned, "You Are." Matt has definitely changed the dynamic of the band, so it'd be cool to see an album full of tracks like that one that take the band out of their comfort zone a bit......

DewieCox

RedMosquito22 wrote:

What I want them to do more than anything else is going back to recording on a big board to tape. No more digital recording please!!!!!!

What difference does it make if they're not gonna master the albums for it?



I'd like PJ to be more experimental, but not in the vein of Radiohead.

I love Radiohead, though the new album is kinda halfassed bullshit.

Gonzo1977

I'll be happy with experimental just so long as it doesn't sound anything like "The King of Limbs"...that album sucks.

pjsteelerfan

At the time, No Code was a pretty big jump away from what they had done on their first 3 albulms, and we all know how that turned out. I think it would be interesting.

I would like to see them follow radioheads idea and to just come on the site one day and have them say the new albulms done and ready for download, physical copies will be out in two months.

sawyerjam

No Code might be their best album. They could use a little creativity right now. The choruses on the last two albums are a little cheesy. at least Their live show is still the best.

RedMosquito22

DewieCox wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

What I want them to do more than anything else is going back to recording on a big board to tape. No more digital recording please!!!!!!

What difference does it make if they're not gonna master the albums for it?

Huh? This doesn't even make sense. Of course my statement means mastering old school as well. Just listen to Social D's new album. It sounds amazing. It's not hard to find a physical compressor, limiter and EQ to master with.

bluesuedeitzrad

wasn't Vitalogy their experimental album? Binaural was innovated with its production, but Vitalogy was def out there in comparison to their other albums.

jjflash

Glad to see some commentary on the new Radiohead album here...I was curious to hear PJ fans' take on it. I've been thru it several times now and really like it. It's hauntingly beautiful like most Radiohead efforts. Radiohead to me are successful in the same way Pearl Jam is in that their music is a good respresentation of the capusule of time that passes between each album. The sounds on The King of Limbs is a very logical step if you explore any of the songs that Radiohead frequently lists on their website under "Office Charts"....most of those songs are heavy in techno and beat-based influences. Their new album is representative of the sounds and frequencies that have moved them of late in regard to the other artists they've been listening to.

PJ at it's core is a 70's style rock band with punk roots that bends those influences to create modern sounds. They are not an avant garde rock band like Radiohead and thus I don't think anything too experimental would suit them well (see Foxymophandlemama). Jeff's influence will most likely be the impetus to push PJ sounds into anything similar to what the OP suggests. There's also the sonic grounds to explore similar to what Lanios did for Uncle Neil on the stellar Le Noise; this type of sound would fit fantastic within the PJ framework.

mysticweed

Parksy wrote:

Hmmm...

I don't think it would work. As hardcore PJ fans its difficult to suggest that Pearl Jam 'can't' do something.

But if Pearl Jam strayed from the road their on as much as Radiohead did... I don't think it would work out.

They've established themselves as "Hard Rock - Rock" and I can't seem them succeeding in any way if they deviate from that path.

Variations from Rock 'may' work... perhaps a more folkier album... but if they stray too far from Rock - Hard Rock.. they would fail. And I don't think they would want to anyways.



I love Radiohead though. Pablo Honey straight through to King of Limbs.

just breath is as folksy as i can stand

NY went from after the gold rush and harvest into more of a maverick rocky thing

i don't think i could take folksy pearl jam

DewieCox

RedMosquito22 wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

What I want them to do more than anything else is going back to recording on a big board to tape. No more digital recording please!!!!!!

What difference does it make if they're not gonna master the albums for it?

Huh? This doesn't even make sense. Of course my statement means mastering old school as well. Just listen to Social D's new album. It sounds amazing. It's not hard to find a physical compressor, limiter and EQ to master with.

The post makes perfect sense. From Ten to Riot Act they recorded to tape. Every cd and the respective vinyl has the same mastering job. Most bands will have a separate fully analog master put on their vinyl keeping a full analog chain.

Parksy

jjflash wrote:

Glad to see some commentary on the new Radiohead album here...I was curious to hear PJ fans' take on it. I've been thru it several times now and really like it. It's hauntingly beautiful like most Radiohead efforts. Radiohead to me are successful in the same way Pearl Jam is in that their music is a good respresentation of the capusule of time that passes between each album. The sounds on The King of Limbs is a very logical step if you explore any of the songs that Radiohead frequently lists on their website under "Office Charts"....most of those songs are heavy in techno and beat-based influences. Their new album is representative of the sounds and frequencies that have moved them of late in regard to the other artists they've been listening to.

PJ at it's core is a 70's style rock band with punk roots that bends those influences to create modern sounds. They are not an avant garde rock band like Radiohead and thus I don't think anything too experimental would suit them well (see Foxymophandlemama). Jeff's influence will most likely be the impetus to push PJ sounds into anything similar to what the OP suggests. There's also the sonic grounds to explore similar to what Lanios did for Uncle Neil on the stellar Le Noise; this type of sound would fit fantastic within the PJ framework.

well said

Alive_and_Evolving

I know some people commented on here saying it would be "suicide". I think at this point in their career it really doesnt matter what they release, they've been a band long enough to do whatever they want. I think if Of the earth is any indication of where they might go we might see a mixture of acoustic stuff that they seem to be pulling from ed's solo career along with strange songs like of the earth. I think they have a dedicated enough of a fan base that we would stay loyal to them even if they had a failed experiment. I like how their sound always changes similar to how radiohead sounds nothing like how they did on their first pearl jam doesnt either and i think we're blessed to have two bands that aren't afraid to express themselves the way they want. P.S. i really enjoy the new radiohead

RedMosquito22

DewieCox wrote:

The post makes perfect sense. From Ten to Riot Act they recorded to tape. Every cd and the respective vinyl has the same mastering job. Most bands will have a separate fully analog master put on their vinyl keeping a full analog chain.

Which is what I want. My goodness. My whole point was to go all tape and Analog like Social D just did. You are debating with someone who agrees with you.

I never said to record to tape and master digitally. I'm so sick of digital recording/mastering. It sounds like garbage. It's fine for small bands and bands on any type of budget because it's cheaper but there is no reason for Pearl Jam to be using it.

gfnk001

I would love to hear an experimental album of theirs. Base the entire concept on Foxymophandlemama. I know they have the ability. It mostly likely wouldn't be a smash hit with the majority of fans, but I'm all for experimenting artistically. I love how they have evolved album to album and on multiple occasions have compared them to Led Zeppelin.

jjflash

Alive_and_Evolving wrote:

I think at this point in their career it really doesnt matter what they release, they've been a band long enough to do whatever they want. i think we're blessed to have two bands that aren't afraid to express themselves the way they want.

What he said