Our Generation: Land. Culture. Freedom.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited January 2014
    This is good stuff:

    Geoffrey Gurrumul Yunupingu - Bayini http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi6zbPjtO6I
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I asked an Australian the other week what he thought of Aboriginals. His response was: "They're lazy drunks who fuck their own children".
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    I'm more and more convinced that the genocide of most of the worlds tribal communities and loss of their cultures is exactly the wrong direction we should be going in.

    I don't have a link to the text but if you can find it, read "The Great Remembering" in Daniel Quinn's book, The Story of B. Better yet, read the book!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm more and more convinced that the genocide of most of the worlds tribal communities and loss of their cultures is exactly the wrong direction we should be going in.

    I don't have a link to the text but if you can find it, read "The Great Remembering" in Daniel Quinn's book, The Story of B. Better yet, read the book!

    Isn't our man Ed Vedd into this guys books?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Byrnzie wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I'm more and more convinced that the genocide of most of the worlds tribal communities and loss of their cultures is exactly the wrong direction we should be going in.

    I don't have a link to the text but if you can find it, read "The Great Remembering" in Daniel Quinn's book, The Story of B. Better yet, read the book!

    Isn't our man Ed Vedd into this guys books?

    I hear he's a huge fan of Quinn's book Ishmael (wasn't this the book said to be a big inspirations for Vs.?) and The Story of B is a sequel of sorts so my guess would be, yes. Would be interesting to know for sure.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I asked an Australian the other week what he thought of Aboriginals. His response was: "They're lazy drunks who fuck their own children".

    you really need to be careful who you speak to steve. ;) as an australian i can assure you we are not all of that opinion.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited January 2014
    I look forward to seeing this new documentary by John Pilger:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht8_5UlcgSQ

    http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/australia-news/australias-dirtiest-secret-john-pilgers-new-film-shines-a-light-on-the-treatment-of-australias-aboriginals

    Australia's dirtiest secret: John Pilger's new film shines a light on the treatment of Australia's Aboriginals
    7th May 2013
    By Carol Driver



    '...Figures published last year by VicHealth who surveyed 755 Aboriginals in Victoria revealed 97 per cent had been targets of verbal or physical abuse in the previous 12 months.

    Up to 70 per cent had been targets of eight or more racist incidents; 67 per cent had been spat at; and 66 per cent had been told they did not belong.

    Two weeks ago in Sydney, police shot two indigenous teenagers who had stolen a car, hitting a bystander in a crowded footpath. It sparked race tensions across the city, with protesters accusing the police of racism.

    An internal police investigation is currently underway. Campaigners are citing crisis point in Western Australia, with thousands of Aboriginals drinking themselves to death, living in squalor while workers on six-figure salaries help drive the boom.

    Bob Neville, chairman of the Pilbara Association of Non-Government Organisations, said Western Australia was “in the middle of the biggest resources boom we’ve ever seen, and locals have nothing to show for it”.

    He called for an inquiry, telling Perth Now: “Every night they’re sleeping in the dirt on [mining magnate] Gina Rinehart’s doorstep. They’re dying from alcohol, drugs, poor nutrition and suicide.”

    Pilger says Aboriginal incarcerations have more than doubled in WA during the resources boom. In his film, he highlights the case of an elder known as Mr Ward, arrested for drink-driving.In 50˚C heat, he was driven more than 300 miles in a prison van run by the British security company GSL.

    “Mr Ward cooked to death, his stomach burned raw where he had collapsed on the van’s scorching floor ... The Department of Public Prosecutions refused to take action, saying there was ‘no evidence’. This is not unusual.”

    About 60 per cent of Western Australia’s young prisoners are indigenous – five times the rate of imprisonment for black people during apartheid in South Africa.Former prisons minister Margaret Quirk said the state was “racking and stacking” black Australians.

    Richard Harding, former Inspector of Custodial Services, declared Western Australia a “state of imprisonment”.

    The reason, according to Dennis Eggington, CEO of the Aboriginal Legal Service of Western Australia, is that Aboriginal children are being locked up for minor crimes.

    They’re “being scooped up and poured into the justice system through this big hole that’s getting worse and worse”, he told Kimberley Mornings.

    “Attempting to steal an ice-cream, stealing 10 hamburger buns ... all these sorts of crimes that don’t deserve young kids to be held in police custody, the court, then locked up.”

    And not enough is being done to resolve these problems, says Pilger, adding: “More than any colonial society, Australia consigns its dirtiest secrets, past and present, to a wilful ignorance or indifference.”
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  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    thanks for posting, I will look forward to seeing that. :)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited January 2014
  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    edited May 2013
  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    have you read his biography?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    belinda27 wrote:
    have you read his biography?

    No, I heard about it today. I may give it a look, but I've a ton of other books to get through first.
  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    Byrnzie wrote:
    belinda27 wrote:
    have you read his biography?

    No, I heard about it today. I may give it a look, but I've a ton of other books to get through first.
    well best of luck with that...I think I'll get it this weekend and give it a go ;)
  • belinda27belinda27 Posts: 731
    just watched the first episode of a new series on the abc it was called "First Footprints" its worth watching.
    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/first-footprints/
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    belinda27 wrote:
    just watched the first episode of a new series on the abc it was called "First Footprints" its worth watching.
    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/first-footprints/

    Cool. I'll check this out.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    edited January 2014
    Australia Day is a time for mourning, not celebration

    The refusal to celebrate Australia Day is part of an ongoing fight for the recognition of the abuse of Indigenous people's rights. If we give up on protesting, we might soon no longer remember the past


    Nakkiah Lui
    theguardian.com, Saturday 25 January 2014


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    Teddy Hopkins, an Aboriginal elder, during a protest at the Queensland parliament following the evacuation and arrest of members of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy.


    I’ve been using the dating website OkCupid too much lately, and recently decided to reply to persistent messages from a MrNxtLvl – someone I would usually ignore based on his username alone. MrNxtLvl asked me what I was up to on Australia Day. I replied with “Nothing. I don’t celebrate Australia Day’”. He answered with complete bewilderment: “WTF?! You do nuthin? Not even listen to Triple J's Hottest 100 ?” to which I could only reply, “not even Triple J”.

    I'm an Aboriginal woman in her 20s who cruises dating websites, but it’s only four generations back that my family felt the direct consequences of foreigners invading our land. There's my great-great grandmother, who survived a massacre; my great grandfather, who was forced back to the mission after his father died and wasn't allowed to own land; my grandfather, who was given "dog tags" dictating he was an "honorary white man" after he returned from being a prisoner of war in World War II; my mother, who was encouraged to not finish high school because she was Aboriginal.


    This is why, for us, Australia Day is a day of mourning. It is not a day to go over to my friends' to sit in a blow up pool and get drunk, and it’s definitely not a day to wear red, white and blue while waving a flag with a Union Jack and a Southern Cross on it.

    We do not celebrate the coming of the tall ships in Sydney's harbour. Instead, we mourn the declaration of Australia as terra nullius (empty land) as well as those who have died in massacres, those who were dispossessed of their land and homes, those were denied their humanity, those who were shackled, beaten, sent to prison camps, and made to live in reserves. We mourn those who have died in the resistance.

    We also mourn the affects of genocide and colonisation which persists to this day. Aboriginal people die younger (an Indigenous male born in 2005-2007 is likely to live to 67.2 years, 11.5 years less than a non-Indigenous male); the number of Aboriginal children in "out of home care" is staggering; imprisonment rates for Indigenous Australians are around 12 times those of the rest of the Australian population; and people in the Northern Territory are still being oppressed under the Northern Territory intervention, a policy which Amnesty International described as "blatantly disregarding human rights".

    We mourn whilst the rest of the country celebrates around us.

    Protesting against Australia Day is nothing new; it is an ongoing fight for the recognition of what has been happening to us for over 100 years. One of the earliest Aboriginal protest occurred in 1888, when Indigenous people boycotted centenary celebrations. In 1937 William Cooper, a member of the Aboriginal Progressive Association, declared the sesquicentenary a "day of mourning", and a protest was held at the Australian Hall in Sydney.

    This doesn't stop here. In 1985, the Sydney Morning Herald noted that:

    "For the official 1938 Australia Day celebrations, the government brought in "tame blacks" from the Menindee reserve. They were taken straight from the train, locked up in a stable at the Redfern police barracks, and guarded by dogs. On 26 January 1938, they were brought out dressed in leaves to be chased along the shore by British soldiers with bayonets and to parade through the street on a float. The next day they were sent back to their tin sheds on the Darling River."

    These days we do the re-enactments without the bayonets, and Aboriginal elders give a Welcome to Country. This welcome happens on the very same spot where Indigenous people who encountered the first tall ships yelled "warra warra" (go away). It is the very same spot where Aboriginal people were murdered purely because this land was their home.

    The 1988 bicentennary events was one of the biggest protests held by Aboriginal people from around Australia, and done in the name of survival. Around 40,000 protesters came to Sydney from all over the country to participate in the march. On the same day, Aboriginal people gathered at La Perouse Bay to throw their funeral wreaths into the water.

    I was just two years old when my mum took me on this march. I wore a red, black and yellow Aboriginal flag dress, and we held hands as we marched. My mother says it is the cheering she remembers most clearly: the roar of cheers from the massive crowds of non-Aboriginal people who had gathered to support the march as they went through Belmore Park in Sydney’s CBD, with many ending up joining the protest in support of Aboriginal people.

    There are still protests every year around the country and at the Tent Embassy in Canberra, but for many Australians, the extent of their knowledge of that would be the saga of Julia Gillard's missing shoe incident during the 2012 Australia Day protests. Twenty-six years on from the 1988 celebrations, I do wonder: if Aboriginal Australians were to march through Sydney now in the name of survival, would we get the support we were given then? I don’t know if we would get much support, or if our red, black and yellow Aboriginal flags would be welcome amongst the union jacks and south crosses.
    Teddy Hopkins, an elder member of the aboriginal community, during a protest at the Queensland Parliament following the evacuation and arrest of members of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy. Teddy Hopkins, an Aboriginal elder, during a protest at the Queensland parliament following the evacuation and arrest of members of the Aboriginal Tent Embassy. Photograph: AAP/Patrick Hamilton

    In Sydney we have Yabun, an Aboriginal event working as an alternative to Australia Day, which has been held for the last 12 years. But has the proclamation of calling it Yabun instead of Invasion Day or Survival Day, and hosting celebrations instead of protest, depoliticised the event?

    I'm afraid that if we give up on protesting Australia Day, the blameless myth will continue – becoming richer and fuller, until we no longer remember the past. The Australian anthem, Advanced Australia Fair, says;

    For those who've come across the seas


    We've boundless plains to share


    In the anthem you’ll find no mention of stolen land – everything is young and new. And as I watch people around the country celebrate the myth that is Australia, I am given the option to either join in or shut up. Well I refuse to celebrate, and every Australia Day my heart is broken as I am reminded that in the eyes of many, I am not welcome on my own land.

    Most people just want a day to celebrate the place that they call home, to be part of a community, and to guide Australia into the future. I am one of these people, so why can’t we celebrate this on a day that includes all Australians? Surely there must be another historically significant date that can be trumped up to include every person in this country. But ignorance is bliss, right?
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