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HughFreakingDillon

is AEW just TNA 2.0? I don't watch wrestling anymore, but after seeing all the roster adds over the last couple years...

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

is AEW just TNA 2.0? I don't watch wrestling anymore, but after seeing all the roster adds over the last couple years...

I've never watched AEW but from following along online a bit, this seems to be the case. Great comparison with TNA too. A lot of people give it the WCW comparison, and while WCW was a "retirement league" of sorts for the likes of Hogan, Nash, Savage, and Piper, it was also a breeding ground for some real future stars like Jericho, Guerrero, Mysterio, Booker T, and Big Show. AEW doesn't seem to have any talent with that sort of potential. 

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

is AEW just TNA 2.0? I don't watch wrestling anymore, but after seeing all the roster adds over the last couple years...

I've never watched AEW but from following along online a bit, this seems to be the case. Great comparison with TNA too. A lot of people give it the WCW comparison, and while WCW was a "retirement league" of sorts for the likes of Hogan, Nash, Savage, and Piper, it was also a breeding ground for some real future stars like Jericho, Guerrero, Mysterio, Booker T, and Big Show. AEW doesn't seem to have any talent with that sort of potential. 

You're nuts.  One of them went over to WWE already in Cody Rhodes.  He changed his look and put in some serious work and is LOVED now.

MJF is an absolute gem of a talent.

Orange Cassidy went to new heights after that blood match he had.

Adam Page is stellar.

Wardlow, Kip Sabian, Kenny Omega, Darby Allin, John Moxley, Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, Best Friends, The doctor Britt Baker, Hikaru Shida are all pretty damn good.

eeriepadave

Adam Copeland (Edge) made his AEW appearance last night. Kinda thought this was gonna happen but still pretty cool. Heard he got a loud "pop" from the fans.

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

is AEW just TNA 2.0? I don't watch wrestling anymore, but after seeing all the roster adds over the last couple years...

I've never watched AEW but from following along online a bit, this seems to be the case. Great comparison with TNA too. A lot of people give it the WCW comparison, and while WCW was a "retirement league" of sorts for the likes of Hogan, Nash, Savage, and Piper, it was also a breeding ground for some real future stars like Jericho, Guerrero, Mysterio, Booker T, and Big Show. AEW doesn't seem to have any talent with that sort of potential. 

You're nuts.  One of them went over to WWE already in Cody Rhodes.  He changed his look and put in some serious work and is LOVED now.

MJF is an absolute gem of a talent.

Orange Cassidy went to new heights after that blood match he had.

Adam Page is stellar.

Wardlow, Kip Sabian, Kenny Omega, Darby Allin, John Moxley, Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, Best Friends, The doctor Britt Baker, Hikaru Shida are all pretty damn good.

Cody Rhodes was in WWE for years before that. It's not like he was some sort of AEW creation. Same with Moxley. You'll probably say that Rhodes wasn't over in WWE, and he was when he came back from AEW. So he's basically X-Pac. As 1-2-3 Kid, X-Pac was just another guy (as Cody was for many years). He went to WCW where he got over a little, but not really (like Cody in AEW). But when X-Pac returned, he was sort of a big deal with Dx, because everybody that returns is a bigger deal than when they left. Like Cody is now.

I don't know much about those other guys. As I said, I don't watch AEW (or WWE for that matter other than the major PPVs). So you think those guys you listed have the potential to be real stars in WWE like the former WCW guys I mentioned? Or is this their ceiling....being stellar or pretty damn good in AEW?

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

is AEW just TNA 2.0? I don't watch wrestling anymore, but after seeing all the roster adds over the last couple years...

I've never watched AEW but from following along online a bit, this seems to be the case. Great comparison with TNA too. A lot of people give it the WCW comparison, and while WCW was a "retirement league" of sorts for the likes of Hogan, Nash, Savage, and Piper, it was also a breeding ground for some real future stars like Jericho, Guerrero, Mysterio, Booker T, and Big Show. AEW doesn't seem to have any talent with that sort of potential. 

You're nuts.  One of them went over to WWE already in Cody Rhodes.  He changed his look and put in some serious work and is LOVED now.

MJF is an absolute gem of a talent.

Orange Cassidy went to new heights after that blood match he had.

Adam Page is stellar.

Wardlow, Kip Sabian, Kenny Omega, Darby Allin, John Moxley, Jungle Boy, Sammy Guevara, Best Friends, The doctor Britt Baker, Hikaru Shida are all pretty damn good.

Cody Rhodes was in WWE for years before that. It's not like he was some sort of AEW creation. Same with Moxley. You'll probably say that Rhodes wasn't over in WWE, and he was when he came back from AEW. So he's basically X-Pac. As 1-2-3 Kid, X-Pac was just another guy (as Cody was for many years). He went to WCW where he got over a little, but not really (like Cody in AEW). But when X-Pac returned, he was sort of a big deal with Dx, because everybody that returns is a bigger deal than when they left. Like Cody is now.

I don't know much about those other guys. As I said, I don't watch AEW (or WWE for that matter other than the major PPVs). So you think those guys you listed have the potential to be real stars in WWE like the former WCW guys I mentioned? Or is this their ceiling....being stellar or pretty damn good in AEW?

Cody dropped the stardust theme and worked in Japan I think?  Anywho he made his way back to the states and joined AEW and became huge.  He was nobody before in WWE.

The other guys are good, yes.  Check out MJF for sure.  I've been saying he and Cassidy were great from the beginning.  The others I mentioned are all climbing the ladder.  

Theres some big dudes like Luchasaurus that I like too but not sure if he'd ever make it in WWE.

Ledbetterman10

I've seen a few MJF promos online and yeah, he's good. I know he gets a lot of comparisons to The Miz (even as an insult from CM Punk in a promo), but it's not like Miz invented the "cocky asshole wrestler" persona. Haven't seen any of MJF's matches though. 

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

I've seen a few MJF promos online and yeah, he's good. I know he gets a lot of comparisons to The Miz (even as an insult from CM Punk in a promo), but it's not like Miz invented the "cocky asshole wrestler" persona. Haven't seen any of MJF's matches though. 

His last one wasn't good.  I believe he was hurt.  His other matches I've seen were absolutely fantastic.  He pays homage to old school wrestling and plays a great heel.

He and CM Punk truly do not like each other.

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I've seen a few MJF promos online and yeah, he's good. I know he gets a lot of comparisons to The Miz (even as an insult from CM Punk in a promo), but it's not like Miz invented the "cocky asshole wrestler" persona. Haven't seen any of MJF's matches though. 

His last one wasn't good.  I believe he was hurt.  His other matches I've seen were absolutely fantastic.  He pays homage to old school wrestling and plays a great heel.

He and CM Punk truly do not like each other.

lol does anyone like CM Punk at this point?

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I've seen a few MJF promos online and yeah, he's good. I know he gets a lot of comparisons to The Miz (even as an insult from CM Punk in a promo), but it's not like Miz invented the "cocky asshole wrestler" persona. Haven't seen any of MJF's matches though. 

His last one wasn't good.  I believe he was hurt.  His other matches I've seen were absolutely fantastic.  He pays homage to old school wrestling and plays a great heel.

He and CM Punk truly do not like each other.

lol does anyone like CM Punk at this point?

I didn't care for him at all coming into AEW.

eeriepadave

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

I've seen a few MJF promos online and yeah, he's good. I know he gets a lot of comparisons to The Miz (even as an insult from CM Punk in a promo), but it's not like Miz invented the "cocky asshole wrestler" persona. Haven't seen any of MJF's matches though. 

His last one wasn't good.  I believe he was hurt.  His other matches I've seen were absolutely fantastic.  He pays homage to old school wrestling and plays a great heel.

He and CM Punk truly do not like each other.

lol does anyone like CM Punk at this point?

I didn't care for him at all coming into AEW.

not really no. Maybe when he first came back. That crowd reaction was one of the loudest i've heard. His second time back I didn't care for at all.

eeriepadave

There are rumors that CM Punk might sign with WWE and could make his return at Survivor Series in Chicago. It would make sense, I don't really care if he returns, but leaning towards no. WWE doesn't really need him. \

Fastlane looked like a decent PLE last night. I was out and didn't watch it. Most of the babyfaces won which was surprising. Also Carilto returned. I was also surprised that in AEW FTR lost their titles to Big Bill and Ricky Starks.

eeriepadave

this looks good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVsaoveTbw

tempo_n_groove

Is this based on the Benoits?

igotid88

tempo_n_groove said:

Is this based on the Benoits?

The Von Erichs

tempo_n_groove

igotid88 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Is this based on the Benoits?

The Von Erichs

Ahhh the other messed up wrestling family.

igotid88

tempo_n_groove said:

igotid88 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Is this based on the Benoits?

The Von Erichs

Ahhh the other messed up wrestling family.

They weren't really messed up. Just had a lot of early deaths. Not sure how you got Benoit from that trailer?

tempo_n_groove

igotid88 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

igotid88 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Is this based on the Benoits?

The Von Erichs

Ahhh the other messed up wrestling family.

They weren't really messed up. Just had a lot of early deaths. Not sure how you got Benoit from that trailer?

I typed it before I even watched it.

tempo_n_groove

I remember watching an outside the ring about them. Crazy stuff.  I think they all dies before 26?

igotid88

tempo_n_groove said:

I remember watching an outside the ring about them. Crazy stuff.  I think they all dies before 26?

Kerry died at 33. The youngest died at 2. Kevin is still alive. That's who Zac Efron is playing.