Grammy's 2011

musicismylife78

StickmanJam wrote:

So awesome the Black Keys took home some gold.

I also think it's funny that a lot of people flipping out over Arcade Fire winning are the same ones who have been denouncing the Grammy's as "meaningless" for years.

when was the last time an indie band won a major award, since 2001, when the indie scene sort of became known?

Additionally, when was the last time a band like arcade fire, where people call their live shows religious experiences, and then a band with the type of critical and fan praise that follows arcade fire?

Its a watershed moment for sure.

First indie band to win album of the year. Death cab i think has won alternative album in the past.

its another odd turn in the indie world. Who would have guessed so many indie bands would have hit number 1 in 2010 and a couple have hit number 1 in 2011 as well.

RYEzupSF

The performance by Mumford and Sons/Avett Brothers/Bob Dylan was fucking great!! You could almost understand Dylan so that was a big plus, but more than anything it was is so fucking cool to see musicians having a kick ass time and playing their hearts out. That is what its about. I've been lucky to see the Avetts live several times and the shows are so fantastic. Can't wait to see Mumford and Sons!! And I love you Joe Kwon. You need a mic!

Loulou

RYEzupSF wrote:

The performance by Mumford and Sons/Avett Brothers/Bob Dylan was fucking great!! You could almost understand Dylan so that was a big plus, but more than anything it was is so fucking cool to see musicians having a kick ass time and playing their hearts out. That is what its about. I've been lucky to see the Avetts live several times and the shows are so fantastic. Can't wait to see Mumford and Sons!! And I love you Joe Kwon. You need a mic!

:thumbup: :clap: Was my fav performance too!

En La Clandestinidad

eeriepadave wrote:

Woo-Hoo! Wow, awesome to see Arcade Fire win album of the year! And we get to hear another song from them

but how can they be album of the year when The Black Keys beat them in the Alternative album category. Wouldn't that then make Brothers Album of the Year because it beat them earlier? Just sayin'

JOEJOEJOE

We just got home from The Grammys.....so excited that AF won!

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse!

musicismylife78

and ray lamontagne won best contemporary folk album. very cool. Thats a shocker as well. So surreal. Who would have thought a guy like ray would win a grammy? Certainly not his label!

Again, this is a night for the history books folks.

RYEzupSF

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

We just got home from The Grammys.....so excited that AF won!

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse!

Ummm. Awesome!! HOw was the Mumford/Avett/Dylan in person?! Lucky lucky man!

musicismylife78

Brew Crew Tix wrote:

eeriepadave wrote:

Woo-Hoo! Wow, awesome to see Arcade Fire win album of the year! And we get to hear another song from them

but how can they be album of the year when The Black Keys beat them in the Alternative album category. Wouldn't that then make Brothers Album of the Year because it beat them earlier? Just sayin'

i think its more bizaare the grammys has an alternative music category at all. its complete nonsense in reality. When I think of alternative I think of the formative years of my youth and the music we that nurtured me, but I also get a sick feeling of the sort of absolute crap that litters modern day "alt rock" radio stations, three days grace, and hinder and all that rubbish. Alternative music died in 1994 when kurt died. When was the last time alt rock radio or modern rock commercial radio played anything worthwhile beyond the occasional early 90's bone thrown to people

When a band like arcade fire wins album of the year, a band who is as alternative, or was as alternative and indie as one can get, the labels have to be rexamined.

They need an indie category, as its been the most dominant musical genre for a decade now. Indie bands routinely hit number 1 on the charts...

alternative as a label strikes me as so oddly out of tune with what is going on with music right now its almost laughable

JOEJOEJOE

RYEzupSF wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

We just got home from The Grammys.....so excited that AF won!

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse!

Ummm. Awesome!! HOw was the Mumford/Avett/Dylan in person?! Lucky lucky man!

The Mumford thing was ok......we just watched it on the broadcast, but Dylan sounded better in person cuz the music drowned out his voice. He is sounding a bit rough these days!

RYEzupSF

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

RYEzupSF wrote:

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

We just got home from The Grammys.....so excited that AF won!

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse!

http://forums.pearljam.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=9&p=3457497#

Ummm. Awesome!! HOw was the Mumford/Avett/Dylan in person?! Lucky lucky man!

The Mumford thing was ok......we just watched it on the broadcast, but Dylan sounded better in person cuz the music drowned out his voice. He is sounding a bit rough these days!

If you can understand even a little of Dylan these days its a good day. god love him.

JOEJOEJOE

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse![/quote]http://forums.pearljam.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=9&p=3457497#

Ummm. Awesome!! HOw was the Mumford/Avett/Dylan in person?! Lucky lucky man![/quote]

The Mumford thing was ok......we just watched it on the broadcast, but Dylan sounded better in person cuz the music drowned out his voice. He is sounding a bit rough these days![/quote]

If you can understand even a little of Dylan these days its a good day. god love him.[/quote]

Who is the typical Mumford fan? Indie kids? Jam band fans? They remind me of amore hillbillyish DMB.....and The Waterboys and Hothouse Flowers too.

musicismylife78

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

We snuck down to the posh seats to watch their category announced, so it was cool to be close for their second song. The performances this year were the best in many years.

Mick Jagger was great, as was Cee Lo, and Eminem. As usual, I am still puzzled over the appeal of Muse!

http://forums.pearljam.com/posting.php?mode=quote&f=9&p=3457497#

Ummm. Awesome!! HOw was the Mumford/Avett/Dylan in person?! Lucky lucky man![/quote]

The Mumford thing was ok......we just watched it on the broadcast, but Dylan sounded better in person cuz the music drowned out his voice. He is sounding a bit rough these days![/quote]

If you can understand even a little of Dylan these days its a good day. god love him.[/quote]

Who is the typical Mumford fan? Indie kids? Jam band fans? They remind me of amore hillbillyish DMB.....and The Waterboys and Hothouse Flowers too.[/quote]


saw dylan in 2009 and he was as great as ever. he plays early and quick sets though. show started, the one i saw, at like 7pm and he had played his last song, last encore by 9pm. but great show.

anyways, mumford is huge with the indie set. p4k panned their record, but all the other indie press loves the band. nme was hugely behind this band and praising them.

so bizaare to see avett brothers getting some love too.

drummerboy_73

musicismylife78 wrote:

Brew Crew Tix wrote:

eeriepadave wrote:

Woo-Hoo! Wow, awesome to see Arcade Fire win album of the year! And we get to hear another song from them

but how can they be album of the year when The Black Keys beat them in the Alternative album category. Wouldn't that then make Brothers Album of the Year because it beat them earlier? Just sayin'

i think its more bizaare the grammys has an alternative music category at all. its complete nonsense in reality. When I think of alternative I think of the formative years of my youth and the music we that nurtured me, but I also get a sick feeling of the sort of absolute crap that litters modern day "alt rock" radio stations, three days grace, and hinder and all that rubbish. Alternative music died in 1994 when kurt died. When was the last time alt rock radio or modern rock commercial radio played anything worthwhile beyond the occasional early 90's bone thrown to people

When a band like arcade fire wins album of the year, a band who is as alternative, or was as alternative and indie as one can get, the labels have to be rexamined.

They need an indie category, as its been the most dominant musical genre for a decade now. Indie bands routinely hit number 1 on the charts...

alternative as a label strikes me as so oddly out of tune with what is going on with music right now its almost laughable

I agree...although, I don't even get the whole "indie" term anymore. It's supposed to be short for "independent", right? But much like the term "alternative" having gotten hijacked by the marketing machine in the 90's as a term to describe a GENRE/SOUND of music, rather than it's true meaning of an ALTERNATIVE to mainstream pop/rock, INDIE has kind of gone the same route. It's almost a marketing tool in itself when a band describes itself as "indie rock". What the hell does that mean when you're on a major label and have representation on major radio stations/car commercials/ESPN?! Is "indie rock" a SOUND now? Seems that's what a majority of it is...and a fashion trend, too. I can see "INDIE TOPIC" stores at the mall now...

musicismylife78

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I agree...although, I don't even get the whole "indie" term anymore. It's supposed to be short for "independent", right? But much like the term "alternative" having gotten hijacked by the marketing machine in the 90's as a term to describe a GENRE/SOUND of music, rather than it's true meaning of an ALTERNATIVE to mainstream pop/rock, INDIE has kind of gone the same route. It's almost a marketing tool in itself when a band describes itself as "indie rock". What the hell does that mean when you're on a major label and have representation on major radio stations/car commercials/ESPN?! Is "indie rock" a SOUND now? Seems that's what a majority of it is...and a fashion trend, too. I can see "INDIE TOPIC" stores at the mall now...[/quote]


i hear ya, but where alternative/grunge and every other music genre that was small and independent when it started and then the public and media descended on it, and bands started getting picked up by majors, and the scene got big and the scene was a household word etc... all throughout music history music scenes and movements and genres follow that pattern, and they usually die out. Almost without exception. Indie rock, as represented by the sound so to speak, the "the" bands in the early 2000's, the strokes, the hives, the vines, the white stipes and so on. All on majors but were independent in their vision and creativity and art and sound. and continuing on a decade later to 2011, its been a wild ride of indie bands signing to majors. of indie bands being mentioned and then their tunes being played on some of the most popular and sucessful movies and tv shows of the last decade, bands being used on tv commecials, indie bands htting number 1 on the billboard charts, and now an indie band winning album of the year.

I hear you on the problem with labeling indie music, well... indie, but to my knowledge no music scene/genre has experienced this much commercials success for this long. Grunge died out, punk died out. and so on and so on.

Its remarkable a genre could be so sucessful and so dominant in peoples lives, in the public's lives for so long. a decade is a hell of a long time. grunge was only in peoples consciousness for 3 years. Punk was from what 1977 through 1979 or so, although it had that reinsurgance in the early 80's.

Looking at it like that, as I said, thats a hell of a journey. A decade of indie music, or what we know as indie music, and its still as vibrant as it ever was...

RYEzupSF

I fucking love you Eminem.

drummerboy_73

musicismylife78 wrote:

...but to my knowledge no music scene/genre has experienced this much commercials success for this long.

RAP. It's been about the ONLY commercial form of music that has been generating "success" for 30+ years. I grew up with some of the old school stuff (Run-DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Whodini) but can't stand any of the modern stuff or gangsta rap. But with that said, there's no denying it's staying presence and influence on pop culture - but to me, it's NOT because of the quality or vision of the music - it's how it's marketed.

I'm not saying I don't like "indie" music - there' some good stuff out there, but like I said, I'm not even sure I know what it is anymore, other than a marketing term. There are musicians out there right now, deciding they're going to form an "indie rock band" before they even play a lick of music or know what kind of sound they might have together. They'll probably spend just as much time in front of a mirror as they will at band practice. I just really hate any kind of label I suppose - I mean, there's like 800 friggin' choices in my "Genre" drop-down list in Windows Media Player!!! :?

kasedoug

So stoked for both the Black Keys and Arcade Fire.
Liked the Mumford & Avett performance. No disrespect to Dylan and his place in music history, but that was really rough. Should have got some help from Zack de la Rocha. He does a killer version of "Maggie's Farm" on RATM's Renegades.

ryanevolution

Can someone explain the appeal of Arcade Fire? WHo likes this band? Im not being a hater, I just dont see the appeal (like someone earlier was asking "who are the fans of Mumford & Sons).

I did not enjoy that AF performance at all. So much noise. And very average band to me. Yes they get somewhat excited on stage and frantic. And they put a lot of people on stage. But I dont know them at all and cant judge from a grammy performance. Strange to me.


And Lady Antebellum (sp?) That shit is THAT popular? I am so out of touch with mainstream shit (thank god).

I'm also sick of all this folky tinged "americana" strings and violins on everything. Gimmicky to me.


Can't help it, I HATE THE MAINSTREAM! HAHAHAHAHA!

ryanevolution

And that eminem shit was horrendous. How do you like that? Such a terrible song, message, etc...

Lifted

ryanevolution wrote:

I'm also sick of all this folky tinged "americana" strings and violins on everything. Gimmicky to me.

okay, well the arcade fire is amazing, and they appeal to a pretty large demographic. a lot of people love them. if you care to hear what they're all about then you would listen to their albums. if not, then i suppose you don't really care anyway....

please explain the comment above though, not sure i understand what you are referring to. it wouldn't happen to be the performance of the night with mumford & sons/ avett brothers and dylan would it? cause there was nothing gimmicky about that. not really a huge fan of mumford, but i love the avett brothers, and the entire performance including mumford & sons was a great moment.