Mubarak resigns

Jeanwah

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middl ... 05862.html

Viva el revolution!

Soulfire42

I'll be very curious to see what his reign is replaced with as we move into the future. I hope all of this has a true benefit for the world and Egypt's people. They certainly are deserving of something better.

meme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpK8Z2vOvAo

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/

http://www.cnn.com/

Jeanwah

Check out the live feed, the celebration is awesome!

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Newch91

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wos-dDxpJlQ

Godfather.

did he give power over to his military as reported in fox ?
and I wonder if his vice president will assume power ?
and what/who changed his mind ?

Godfather.

Jason P

Only took 18 days to get the message through his ego.

The bad thing is that as life resumes, where and how does it get any better for the citizens? I imagine the tourism industry will not bounce back.

And hopefully they will not see a spike in violence between groups trying to seize power in the country. We learned in Iraq that when the dictator goes away, the crazies come out to play. Of course part of that was the fault of the U.S. strategy based strictly on kicking ass and not worrying about re-stabilizing the country. Hopefully the Egyptian military and it's current government can maintain order for peaceful September elections.

polaris_x

the VP has already been tagged by the US ... if he takes over ... i don't suspect we will see fair, democratic elections ... that will be the true test ...

until then - this is pretty awesome ... a revolution accomplished WITHOUT VIOLENCE!!!!

Shawshank

It all depends on who takes over. Mubarak was a tyrant anyway, but if we see the same thing happen here, which is similar to what happened in Iran 30 years ago, then I'm afraid things won't get better for the people.

Cosmo

the egyptian people are pretty secular and moderate... it would be tough for a fundamentalist religion to take hold. The problem I see was the lask of a strong opposition party during Mubarak's reign. There are a lot of little factions, like in Iraq, that will want to steer their country. It'll be rough for them for a while, but what the West needs to do is LET THEM DECIDE.
The wildcard in the deck... Gaza.

Godfather.

polaris_x wrote:

the VP has already been tagged by the US ... if he takes over ... i don't suspect we will see fair, democratic elections ... that will be the true test ...

until then - this is pretty awesome ... a revolution accomplished WITHOUT VIOLENCE!!!!

kinda not true,people died...but it could have been a hell of a lot worse and for the most part it was a non-violent protest......seems odd, I don't trust the silence.

Godfather.

Drowned Out

I know that Western Intelligence backed coups have been disguised as 'popular revolution' before...so I've spent the last couple weeks looking for a source that is pushing this theory in the Egyptian revolution...
I know some of you will take that as anti-American, or backwards logic; looking for information to support a predetermined opinion....but it only makes sense. Not much happens in the world without Western foreknowledge or involvement.
I read when this first started that the US had been funding and training revolutionaries for at least two years (wikileaks), but I couldn't figure out WHY they were going against one of their puppets; what had Mubarek done to cross the West? Apparently, he was resisting a US nuclear umbrella in the middle east....he refused to deepen relations with Israel...he refused to support war with Iran...and he refused to support the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (kangaroo court investigation into Hariri assasination in Lebannon). He stopped playing ball with US interests.

Webster Tarpley lays it all out in a series of interviews of the last couple weeks:
http://www.tarpley.net
(there are audio links under the headlines - looks like the article is missing )

BinauralJam

Drowned Out wrote:

I've known that Western Intelligence backed coups have been disguised as 'popular revolution' before...so I've spent the last couple weeks looking for a source that is pushing this theory in the Egyptian revolution...
I know some of you will take that as anti-American, or backwards logic; looking for information to support a predetermined opinion....but it only makes sense. Not much happens in the world without Western foreknowledge or involvement.
I read when this first started that the US had been funding and training revolutionaries for at least two years (wikileaks), but I couldn't figure out WHY they were going against one of their puppets; what had Mubarek done to cross the West? Apparently, he was resisting a US nuclear umbrella in the middle east....he refused to deepen relations with Israel...he refused to support war with Iran...and he refused to support the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (kangaroo court investigation into Hariri assasination in Lebannon). He stopped playing ball with US interests.

Webster Tarpley lays it all out in a series of interviews of the last couple weeks:
http://www.tarpley.net
(there are audio links under the headlines - looks like the article is missing )

Sounds about right!

zarocat

Drowned Out wrote:

I know that Western Intelligence backed coups have been disguised as 'popular revolution' before...so I've spent the last couple weeks looking for a source that is pushing this theory in the Egyptian revolution...
I know some of you will take that as anti-American, or backwards logic; looking for information to support a predetermined opinion....but it only makes sense. Not much happens in the world without Western foreknowledge or involvement.
I read when this first started that the US had been funding and training revolutionaries for at least two years (wikileaks), but I couldn't figure out WHY they were going against one of their puppets; what had Mubarek done to cross the West? Apparently, he was resisting a US nuclear umbrella in the middle east....he refused to deepen relations with Israel...he refused to support war with Iran...and he refused to support the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (kangaroo court investigation into Hariri assasination in Lebannon). He stopped playing ball with US interests.

Webster Tarpley lays it all out in a series of interviews of the last couple weeks:
http://www.tarpley.net
(there are audio links under the headlines - looks like the article is missing )

mmhm

fuck

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

this is fucking history! a people's movement for democracy and some of you motherfuckers are talking about this being another Iran??? it's not another Iran! be happy bitches! anyone who supports human rights and democracy should be ecstatic! I just got back from Tahrir Sq a short while ago and have been blastin live versions of Alive so far going crazy!

Drowned Out wrote:

I know that Western Intelligence backed coups have been disguised as 'popular revolution' before...so I've spent the last couple weeks looking for a source that is pushing this theory in the Egyptian revolution...
I know some of you will take that as anti-American, or backwards logic; looking for information to support a predetermined opinion....but it only makes sense. Not much happens in the world without Western foreknowledge or involvement.
I read when this first started that the US had been funding and training revolutionaries for at least two years (wikileaks), but I couldn't figure out WHY they were going against one of their puppets; what had Mubarek done to cross the West? Apparently, he was resisting a US nuclear umbrella in the middle east....he refused to deepen relations with Israel...he refused to support war with Iran...and he refused to support the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (kangaroo court investigation into Hariri assasination in Lebannon). He stopped playing ball with US interests.

Webster Tarpley lays it all out in a series of interviews of the last couple weeks:
http://www.tarpley.net
(there are audio links under the headlines - looks like the article is missing )

well I'm in Egypt right now and have been participating in the protests and the revolution and I can assure you that you are wrong. First, it IS a people's movement, not a secretly engineered U.S. one. it was unprecedented and the way Mubarak responded shows that. second, Mubarak has been playing ball with the U.S. and Israelis for YEARS! What are you talking about?? He refused to deepen relations with Israel? On what basis? he was selling them natural energy for like 80% below market price, which shows trade relations were fine. he was helping keep Hamas completely isolated and participating in the blockade even DURING the massacre in Gaza in Dec 08-Jan 09, so foreign policy wise he's been great. He has kept freedom of speech dead in his country which keeps the masses and their opinion on Israel subdued, and he HAS actually supported an American attack on Iran as the wikileaks cables show.....

Not just that, but Obama and the White House have been struggling to try to keep the motherfucker, or the new name we suddenly kept hearing, Omar Suleiman, in power. but that has failed. now the REAL question is the military: what role will they play in this; will they truly serve the people or will foreign interests try to get in the way. that will be left for the future but for tonight I think people should only take this news in extreme joy: everyone, that is, except for Israel. Your racist apartheid regime is crumbling, can you feel it??

Drowned Out

___________ wrote:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

this is fucking history! a people's movement for democracy and some of you motherfuckers are talking about this being another Iran??? it's not another Iran! be happy bitches! anyone who supports human rights and democracy should be ecstatic! I just got back from Tahrir Sq a short while ago and have been blastin live versions of Alive so far going crazy!

Drowned Out wrote:

I know that Western Intelligence backed coups have been disguised as 'popular revolution' before...so I've spent the last couple weeks looking for a source that is pushing this theory in the Egyptian revolution...
I know some of you will take that as anti-American, or backwards logic; looking for information to support a predetermined opinion....but it only makes sense. Not much happens in the world without Western foreknowledge or involvement.
I read when this first started that the US had been funding and training revolutionaries for at least two years (wikileaks), but I couldn't figure out WHY they were going against one of their puppets; what had Mubarek done to cross the West? Apparently, he was resisting a US nuclear umbrella in the middle east....he refused to deepen relations with Israel...he refused to support war with Iran...and he refused to support the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (kangaroo court investigation into Hariri assasination in Lebannon). He stopped playing ball with US interests.

Webster Tarpley lays it all out in a series of interviews of the last couple weeks:
http://www.tarpley.net
(there are audio links under the headlines - looks like the article is missing )

well I'm in Egypt right now and have been participating in the protests and the revolution and I can assure you that you are wrong. First, it IS a people's movement, not a secretly engineered U.S. one. it was unprecedented and the way Mubarak responded shows that. second, Mubarak has been playing ball with the U.S. and Israelis for YEARS! What are you talking about?? He refused to deepen relations with Israel? On what basis? he was selling them natural energy for like 80% below market price, which shows trade relations were fine. he was helping keep Hamas completely isolated and participating in the blockade even DURING the massacre in Gaza in Dec 08-Jan 09, so foreign policy wise he's been great. He has kept freedom of speech dead in his country which keeps the masses and their opinion on Israel subdued, and he HAS actually supported an American attack on Iran as the wikileaks cables show.....

Not just that, but Obama and the White House have been struggling to try to keep the motherfucker, or the new name we suddenly kept hearing, Omar Suleiman, in power. but that has failed. now the REAL question is the military: what role will they play in this; will they truly serve the people or will foreign interests try to get in the way. that will be left for the future but for tonight I think people should only take this news in extreme joy: everyone, that is, except for Israel. Your racist apartheid regime is crumbling, can you feel it??

Did you check the link I posted?
This guy purports that the US favoured a military take over weeks ago, but Mubarek was more stubborn than expected. I'm not claiming any of this as truth, just posting what I found in support of suspicions I had.

As I said, wikileaks showed that the US had been trying to covertly undermine the regime for at least two years, and it appears that it began shortly after the summit in which Mubarek rejected a nuclear umbrella over Egypt and Saudi Arabia ( http://original.antiwar.com/fareed-mahd ... -umbrella/ ). He was too strong in his country, and too stubborn. They want someone more pliant and indebted.


I'm definitely NOT saying that the people were completely co-opted, doing the bidding of imperialists....or that this is not a good thing, or that this is all US-engineered.
It appears that the US didn't have the influence it wanted over Mubarek any longer, and they supported regime change to begin with...but it's pretty obvious that the people of Egypt have been oppressed and waiting for a spark, and they got it. I suppose it doesn't really matter what started this, as long as the people are able to control the outcome.

catefrances

polaris_x wrote:

the VP has already been tagged by the US ... if he takes over ... i don't suspect we will see fair, democratic elections ... that will be the true test ...

until then - this is pretty awesome ... a revolution accomplished
WITHOUT VIOLENCE!!!!

Without violence!!!! so i guess those people that died just dropped dead from god damn excitement. :rolleyes:

Byrnzie

'Bout fucking time.

I wonder what the Israeli's make of it?

redrock

___________ wrote:

....now the REAL question is the military: what role will they play in this; will they truly serve the people or will foreign interests try to get in the way.....?

Yep.... it will be interesting to see how this pans out.

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

'Bout fucking time.

I wonder what the Israeli's make of it?

Seriously steve do you really give a shit what the usraelis make of it?