"Casual drug users should be taken out and shot" - Darryl Gates Head of Los Angeles Police Department United States Senate Judiciary Committee
Ah, my mistake. It was Daryl Gates, not Reagan - Come to think of it, I remember reading about Reagan sending troops into Berkeley and threatening to take over the Height-Ashbury:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Rea ... non50_69-1
Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, in an incident that became known as "Bloody Thursday."[70][71] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters.[70]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park
'...Governor Reagan declared a state of emergency in Berkeley and sent in 2,700 National Guard troops — ironically some Guardsmen were students called to active duty.[12] [Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty. - http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases ... agan.shtml]The Berkeley City Council voted 8–1 against the decision to occupy their city,[20][22] however this vote was ignored. For two weeks the streets of Berkeley were barricaded with rolls of barbed wire, and freedom of assembly was denied as National Guardsmen sent tear gas canisters skittling along the street toward any group of more than two people together. ."[17] On Wednesday, 21 May 1969, a midday memorial was held for student James Rector at Sproul Plaza on the university campus. Rector had suffered massive internal injuries from his shotgun wounds, finally dying at Herrick Hospital on May 19. In his honor, several thousand people peacefully assembled to listen to speakers remembering his life. Without warning, National Guard troops surrounded Sproul Plaza, donned their gas masks, and pointed their bayonets inward, while helicopters dropped CS gas directly on the trapped crowd. No escape was possible, and the gas caused acute respiratory distress, disorientation, temporary blindness and vomiting. Many people, including children and the elderly, were injured during the ensuing panic. The gas was so intense that breezes carried it into Cowell Memorial Hospital, endangering patients, interrupting operations and incapacitating nurses. Students at nearby Jefferson and Franklin elementary schools were also affected.[18][20]
During the People's Park incident, National Guard troops were stationed in front of Berkeley's empty lots to prevent protesters from planting flowers, shrubs, or trees. Young hippie women taunted and teased the troops, on one occasion handing out marijuana-laced brownies and lemonade spiked with LSD.[18] A few stripped to the waist and danced for the young recruits, who tried to hide their smiles from superiors. Initially, Guardsmen were occasionally seen walking hand in hand with young Berkeley women, and they often expressed sympathy with the protesters. After about a week, however, local National Guardsmen were sent home and replaced with National Guardsmen from the more conservative Orange County south of Los Angeles. Citizens who dared ask questions of National Guard commanders, or engage them in debate, were threatened with violence...'
"Casual drug users should be taken out and shot" - Darryl Gates Head of Los Angeles Police Department United States Senate Judiciary Committee
Ah, my mistake. It was Daryl Gates, not Reagan - Come to think of it, I remember reading about Reagan sending troops into Berkeley and threatening to take over the Height-Ashbury:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Rea ... non50_69-1
Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, in an incident that became known as "Bloody Thursday."[70][71] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters.[70]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park
'...Governor Reagan declared a state of emergency in Berkeley and sent in 2,700 National Guard troops — ironically some Guardsmen were students called to active duty.[12] [Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty. - http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases ... agan.shtml]The Berkeley City Council voted 8–1 against the decision to occupy their city,[20][22] however this vote was ignored. For two weeks the streets of Berkeley were barricaded with rolls of barbed wire, and freedom of assembly was denied as National Guardsmen sent tear gas canisters skittling along the street toward any group of more than two people together. ."[17] On Wednesday, 21 May 1969, a midday memorial was held for student James Rector at Sproul Plaza on the university campus. Rector had suffered massive internal injuries from his shotgun wounds, finally dying at Herrick Hospital on May 19. In his honor, several thousand people peacefully assembled to listen to speakers remembering his life. Without warning, National Guard troops surrounded Sproul Plaza, donned their gas masks, and pointed their bayonets inward, while helicopters dropped CS gas directly on the trapped crowd. No escape was possible, and the gas caused acute respiratory distress, disorientation, temporary blindness and vomiting. Many people, including children and the elderly, were injured during the ensuing panic. The gas was so intense that breezes carried it into Cowell Memorial Hospital, endangering patients, interrupting operations and incapacitating nurses. Students at nearby Jefferson and Franklin elementary schools were also affected.[18][20]
During the People's Park incident, National Guard troops were stationed in front of Berkeley's empty lots to prevent protesters from planting flowers, shrubs, or trees. Young hippie women taunted and teased the troops, on one occasion handing out marijuana-laced brownies and lemonade spiked with LSD.[18] A few stripped to the waist and danced for the young recruits, who tried to hide their smiles from superiors. Initially, Guardsmen were occasionally seen walking hand in hand with young Berkeley women, and they often expressed sympathy with the protesters. After about a week, however, local National Guardsmen were sent home and replaced with National Guardsmen from the more conservative Orange County south of Los Angeles. Citizens who dared ask questions of National Guard commanders, or engage them in debate, were threatened with violence...'
I wish I could have been at those protests. Anyone feel like protesting with me at 85 Broad St, NY, NY? Or 8 Trinity Pl, NY, NY?
"Casual drug users should be taken out and shot" - Darryl Gates Head of Los Angeles Police Department United States Senate Judiciary Committee
Ah, my mistake. It was Daryl Gates, not Reagan - Come to think of it, I remember reading about Reagan sending troops into Berkeley and threatening to take over the Height-Ashbury:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Rea ... non50_69-1
Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, in an incident that became known as "Bloody Thursday."[70][71] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters.[70]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park
'...Governor Reagan declared a state of emergency in Berkeley and sent in 2,700 National Guard troops — ironically some Guardsmen were students called to active duty.[12] [Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty. - http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases ... agan.shtml]The Berkeley City Council voted 8–1 against the decision to occupy their city,[20][22] however this vote was ignored. For two weeks the streets of Berkeley were barricaded with rolls of barbed wire, and freedom of assembly was denied as National Guardsmen sent tear gas canisters skittling along the street toward any group of more than two people together. ."[17] On Wednesday, 21 May 1969, a midday memorial was held for student James Rector at Sproul Plaza on the university campus. Rector had suffered massive internal injuries from his shotgun wounds, finally dying at Herrick Hospital on May 19. In his honor, several thousand people peacefully assembled to listen to speakers remembering his life. Without warning, National Guard troops surrounded Sproul Plaza, donned their gas masks, and pointed their bayonets inward, while helicopters dropped CS gas directly on the trapped crowd. No escape was possible, and the gas caused acute respiratory distress, disorientation, temporary blindness and vomiting. Many people, including children and the elderly, were injured during the ensuing panic. The gas was so intense that breezes carried it into Cowell Memorial Hospital, endangering patients, interrupting operations and incapacitating nurses. Students at nearby Jefferson and Franklin elementary schools were also affected.[18][20]
During the People's Park incident, National Guard troops were stationed in front of Berkeley's empty lots to prevent protesters from planting flowers, shrubs, or trees. Young hippie women taunted and teased the troops, on one occasion handing out marijuana-laced brownies and lemonade spiked with LSD.[18] A few stripped to the waist and danced for the young recruits, who tried to hide their smiles from superiors. Initially, Guardsmen were occasionally seen walking hand in hand with young Berkeley women, and they often expressed sympathy with the protesters. After about a week, however, local National Guardsmen were sent home and replaced with National Guardsmen from the more conservative Orange County south of Los Angeles. Citizens who dared ask questions of National Guard commanders, or engage them in debate, were threatened with violence...'
I wish I could have been at those protests. Anyone feel like protesting with me at 85 Broad St, NY, NY? Or 8 Trinity Pl, NY, NY?
I kid, I kid...............
I'd love to slip the worlds leaders some LSD - would be interesting if someone at the U.N could spike their water. That's one U.N session I'd sit up and watch. Imagine 50 or more of the worlds leaders tripping in a circle...then again, they are just politicians - the most unimaginative breed of human ever produced - so maybe it wouldn't be so interesting afterall. The dosage would have to be high to make it interesting - slip the fuckers some micro-dots.
I am sure that with the training given to them...Ronald decided it was best to have all those people killed and then ordered the killing and raping of all those people. You seem rather intelligent, I think you and I will have to agree to disagree from now on and just not bother to engage in any sort of meaningful dialog because it seems like you just want everyone to realize how much you despise the current (or any for that matter) government.
I didn't say he ordered them killed. But the Contra's were trained and armed by the C.I.A with the direct approval of the President - albeit covertly, and illegally - and when news of the massacres emerged the training and funding increased, and Reagan tried to have any investigation silenced. He was therefore complicit in mass rape, and mass murder of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. Maybe you think he shouldn't be despised for that, so we'll agree to disagree.
well, I guess I was answering the question in regards to what conservatives wouldn't want you to know. ALL high profile leaders have things in their careers that are spotty at best and horrible at worst. But Robert Barry has a hard on for Reagan and it comes through in the no less than 5 articles bashing him and blaming him for one thing or another on the front page of the link you posted. I am not discounting what he writes, but if he was truly independent wouldn't he have one good thing to say about Reagan's presidency? like leading us out of a terrible recession with inflation out of control? lowering the tax burden of the bottom 90%...anything? I realize you don't like anything he did, but credit where credit is due is important to a real discussion. Let me ask you this...are the generals and the soldiers who ACTUALLY committed the atrocities at all responsible? or was it simply the war criminal Reagan who was completely and totally responsible? I don't know much about Latin America in the 1980's and am certainly interested in learning more, any good books on the subject you recommend
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Let me ask you this...are the generals and the soldiers who ACTUALLY committed the atrocities at all responsible? or was it simply the war criminal Reagan who was completely and totally responsible?
Well, the "I was just following orders" excuse was made redundant at the Neuremberg trials if I'm not mistaken, so I'd say they are certainly responsible.
Let me ask you this...are the generals and the soldiers who ACTUALLY committed the atrocities at all responsible? or was it simply the war criminal Reagan who was completely and totally responsible?
Well, the "I was just following orders" excuse was made redundant at the Neuremberg trials if I'm not mistaken, so I'd say they are certainly responsible.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I take it this one of those things that all the Reagan haters don't want you to know about. :?
The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (Pub.L. 100-383, title I, August 10, 1988, 102 Stat. 904, 50a U.S.C. § 1989b et seq.) is a United States federal law that granted reparations to Japanese-Americans who had been interned by the United States government during World War II. The act was sponsored by California's Democratic Congressman Norman Mineta, an internee as a child, and Wyoming's Republican Senator Alan K. Simpson, who first met Mineta while visiting an internment camp. The third co-sponsor was California Senator Pete Wilson, seen in the picture to the right. The bill was supported by the majority of Democrats in Congress, while the majority of Republicans voted against it. The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.
The act granted each surviving internee about US$20,000 in compensation, with payments beginning in 1990. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership" as opposed to genuine legitimacy.[1]
Because the law was restricted to American citizens or legal permanent residents, the ethnic Japanese that had been taken from their homes in Latin America (mostly from Peru) were not covered in the reparations, regardless of whether, after the war, they remained in the United States, returned to Latin America, or were deported to Japan. In 1996, Carmen Mochizuki filed a class-action lawsuit[2], and won a settlement of around $5,000 per person to those eligible from what was left of the funds from the CLA. 145 of those affected were able to receive the $5,000 settlement before the funds ran out. In 1999, funds were approved for the attorney general to pay out to the rest of the claimants.[3]
I take it this one of those things that all the Reagan haters don't want you to know about. :?
The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (Pub.L. 100-383, title I, August 10, 1988, 102 Stat. 904, 50a U.S.C. § 1989b et seq.) is a United States federal law that granted reparations to Japanese-Americans who had been interned by the United States government during World War II. The act was sponsored by California's Democratic Congressman Norman Mineta, an internee as a child, and Wyoming's Republican Senator Alan K. Simpson, who first met Mineta while visiting an internment camp. The third co-sponsor was California Senator Pete Wilson, seen in the picture to the right. The bill was supported by the majority of Democrats in Congress, while the majority of Republicans voted against it. The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.
The act granted each surviving internee about US$20,000 in compensation, with payments beginning in 1990. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership" as opposed to genuine legitimacy.[1]
Because the law was restricted to American citizens or legal permanent residents, the ethnic Japanese that had been taken from their homes in Latin America (mostly from Peru) were not covered in the reparations, regardless of whether, after the war, they remained in the United States, returned to Latin America, or were deported to Japan. In 1996, Carmen Mochizuki filed a class-action lawsuit[2], and won a settlement of around $5,000 per person to those eligible from what was left of the funds from the CLA. 145 of those affected were able to receive the $5,000 settlement before the funds ran out. In 1999, funds were approved for the attorney general to pay out to the rest of the claimants.[3]
I believe it was a Democrat Liberal that interned these Japanese-Americans. So again...who is right and wrong?
I believe it was a Democrat Liberal that interned these Japanese-Americans. So again...who is right and wrong?
So this one act wipes the slate clean for Reagan does it?
I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could show that Hitler also did something right during his 12 years in office. Does that mean we can wipe his slate clean too?
I believe it was a Democrat Liberal that interned these Japanese-Americans. So again...who is right and wrong?
So this one act wipes the slate clean for Reagan does it?
I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could show that Hitler also did something right during his 12 years in office. Does that mean we can wipe his slate clean too?
:roll:
No it does not. But FDR did intern thousands of innocent of Japanese Americans, I am just letting the board know so they dont forget. He also tried to pack the Supreme Court with extra Dems so his New Deal programs would not be ruled as unconstitutional. The left and right have the same goal, to amass and gain as much power as possible...so again who is really right and who is wrong?????????????? Byrnzie you are really smart by the way.
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Ah, my mistake. It was Daryl Gates, not Reagan - Come to think of it, I remember reading about Reagan sending troops into Berkeley and threatening to take over the Height-Ashbury:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Rea ... non50_69-1
Reagan was involved in high-profile conflicts with the protest movements of the era. On May 15, 1969, during the People's Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, in an incident that became known as "Bloody Thursday."[70][71] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters.[70]
National Guard called in response to student protests at UC-Berkeley: 1969: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68j0I9_gyCA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park
'...Governor Reagan declared a state of emergency in Berkeley and sent in 2,700 National Guard troops — ironically some Guardsmen were students called to active duty.[12] [Some of these guardsmen were even Cal students. At least one young man had participated in the riots, been shot at by police, gotten patched up, and then returned to his dorm to find a notice to report for guard duty. - http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases ... agan.shtml]The Berkeley City Council voted 8–1 against the decision to occupy their city,[20][22] however this vote was ignored. For two weeks the streets of Berkeley were barricaded with rolls of barbed wire, and freedom of assembly was denied as National Guardsmen sent tear gas canisters skittling along the street toward any group of more than two people together. ."[17] On Wednesday, 21 May 1969, a midday memorial was held for student James Rector at Sproul Plaza on the university campus. Rector had suffered massive internal injuries from his shotgun wounds, finally dying at Herrick Hospital on May 19. In his honor, several thousand people peacefully assembled to listen to speakers remembering his life. Without warning, National Guard troops surrounded Sproul Plaza, donned their gas masks, and pointed their bayonets inward, while helicopters dropped CS gas directly on the trapped crowd. No escape was possible, and the gas caused acute respiratory distress, disorientation, temporary blindness and vomiting. Many people, including children and the elderly, were injured during the ensuing panic. The gas was so intense that breezes carried it into Cowell Memorial Hospital, endangering patients, interrupting operations and incapacitating nurses. Students at nearby Jefferson and Franklin elementary schools were also affected.[18][20]
During the People's Park incident, National Guard troops were stationed in front of Berkeley's empty lots to prevent protesters from planting flowers, shrubs, or trees. Young hippie women taunted and teased the troops, on one occasion handing out marijuana-laced brownies and lemonade spiked with LSD.[18] A few stripped to the waist and danced for the young recruits, who tried to hide their smiles from superiors. Initially, Guardsmen were occasionally seen walking hand in hand with young Berkeley women, and they often expressed sympathy with the protesters. After about a week, however, local National Guardsmen were sent home and replaced with National Guardsmen from the more conservative Orange County south of Los Angeles. Citizens who dared ask questions of National Guard commanders, or engage them in debate, were threatened with violence...'
I wish I could have been at those protests. Anyone feel like protesting with me at 85 Broad St, NY, NY? Or 8 Trinity Pl, NY, NY?
I kid, I kid...............
I'd love to slip the worlds leaders some LSD - would be interesting if someone at the U.N could spike their water. That's one U.N session I'd sit up and watch. Imagine 50 or more of the worlds leaders tripping in a circle...then again, they are just politicians - the most unimaginative breed of human ever produced - so maybe it wouldn't be so interesting afterall. The dosage would have to be high to make it interesting - slip the fuckers some micro-dots.
well, I guess I was answering the question in regards to what conservatives wouldn't want you to know. ALL high profile leaders have things in their careers that are spotty at best and horrible at worst. But Robert Barry has a hard on for Reagan and it comes through in the no less than 5 articles bashing him and blaming him for one thing or another on the front page of the link you posted. I am not discounting what he writes, but if he was truly independent wouldn't he have one good thing to say about Reagan's presidency? like leading us out of a terrible recession with inflation out of control? lowering the tax burden of the bottom 90%...anything? I realize you don't like anything he did, but credit where credit is due is important to a real discussion. Let me ask you this...are the generals and the soldiers who ACTUALLY committed the atrocities at all responsible? or was it simply the war criminal Reagan who was completely and totally responsible? I don't know much about Latin America in the 1980's and am certainly interested in learning more, any good books on the subject you recommend
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Well, the "I was just following orders" excuse was made redundant at the Neuremberg trials if I'm not mistaken, so I'd say they are certainly responsible.
Necessary Illusions: Thought Control in Democratic Societies: http://www.amazon.com/Necessary-Illusio ... 764&sr=8-1
Empire's Workshop: Latin America, the United States, and the Rise of the New Imperialism: http://www.amazon.com/Empires-Workshop- ... d_sim_b_16
thanks i will check them out
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
For who?
The Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (Pub.L. 100-383, title I, August 10, 1988, 102 Stat. 904, 50a U.S.C. § 1989b et seq.) is a United States federal law that granted reparations to Japanese-Americans who had been interned by the United States government during World War II. The act was sponsored by California's Democratic Congressman Norman Mineta, an internee as a child, and Wyoming's Republican Senator Alan K. Simpson, who first met Mineta while visiting an internment camp. The third co-sponsor was California Senator Pete Wilson, seen in the picture to the right. The bill was supported by the majority of Democrats in Congress, while the majority of Republicans voted against it. The act was signed into law by President Ronald Reagan.
The act granted each surviving internee about US$20,000 in compensation, with payments beginning in 1990. The legislation stated that government actions were based on "race prejudice, war hysteria, and a failure of political leadership" as opposed to genuine legitimacy.[1]
Because the law was restricted to American citizens or legal permanent residents, the ethnic Japanese that had been taken from their homes in Latin America (mostly from Peru) were not covered in the reparations, regardless of whether, after the war, they remained in the United States, returned to Latin America, or were deported to Japan. In 1996, Carmen Mochizuki filed a class-action lawsuit[2], and won a settlement of around $5,000 per person to those eligible from what was left of the funds from the CLA. 145 of those affected were able to receive the $5,000 settlement before the funds ran out. In 1999, funds were approved for the attorney general to pay out to the rest of the claimants.[3]
I believe it was a Democrat Liberal that interned these Japanese-Americans. So again...who is right and wrong?
So this one act wipes the slate clean for Reagan does it?
I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could show that Hitler also did something right during his 12 years in office. Does that mean we can wipe his slate clean too?
:roll:
No it does not. But FDR did intern thousands of innocent of Japanese Americans, I am just letting the board know so they dont forget. He also tried to pack the Supreme Court with extra Dems so his New Deal programs would not be ruled as unconstitutional. The left and right have the same goal, to amass and gain as much power as possible...so again who is really right and who is wrong?????????????? Byrnzie you are really smart by the way.
Are you sure about that?
Absolutely positive.