I firmly believe the existence and pervasiveness and dependence upon health insurance is the main reason that healthcare costs so much in the USA.
this is so true.
i don't think Americans fully understand our system. many just believe what they hear on their news down there and perceive it as true. like anything else run by the government, it needs major improvement. MAJOR improvement. but moving to an American-style system is just going backwards.
I firmly believe the existence and pervasiveness and dependence upon health insurance is the main reason that healthcare costs so much in the USA.
this is so true.
i don't think Americans fully understand our system. many just believe what they hear on their news down there and perceive it as true. like anything else run by the government, it needs major improvement. MAJOR improvement. but moving to an American-style system is just going backwards.
I agree, except we are heading toward a US style system, here in Ontario just over the last 8 years the government has de listed chiropractor services, optometrist and physiotherapy which I consider all three of those service vital and integral parts of any health care system, so unless you got insurance from work or are well off these services remain out of reach for many.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
it would if America had the same system. then Canadian doctors would have no reason to move south and the shortage wouldn't be an issue, which is really the whole problem. privatization = more money for the docs.
Actually from what I understand the whole idea that Canadian trained doctors are permanently moving to the US is way overblown.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
...such a beautiful idea isn't it? It seems like it would be much more simple than America's f&%ked up health care insurances--even if you have to pay high taxes
And of course if there were someone on the fence this is the best way to convince them.
And if they didn't believe in paying for others you belittle them right off the bat so it turns into an argument instead of a quality discussion.
Why didn't you just title it "UHC haters go fuck off"?
This is true. I was talking out of anger and frustration that day--not really setting it up for a quality discussion.
I am not necessarily for U.S. health care reform either. I get to hear from my elders all the time how it would cost this country a fortune when we're already in huge debt. So I'm not looking to the gov't to help me--never really have. I'm just trying to mind my own business. Sure, they take out a cut of every paycheck I've ever had, but I guess I'm not as arrogant or as old as some others to point the finger at the government all the time. Yes, that money out of my check would be nice. Do I feel it entitles me to judge the gov't however I see fit--no. They do provide great services for me--like a tax refund, a decent, safe place to live, freedom of speech, etc.--so maybe that money is going towards the things that the gov't still keeps in effect.
...such a beautiful idea isn't it? It seems like it would be much more simple than America's f&%ked up health care insurances--even if you have to pay high taxes
And of course if there were someone on the fence this is the best way to convince them.
And if they didn't believe in paying for others you belittle them right off the bat so it turns into an argument instead of a quality discussion.
Why didn't you just title it "UHC haters go fuck off"?
This is true. I was talking out of anger and frustration that day--not really setting it up for a quality discussion.
I am not necessarily for U.S. health care reform either. I get to hear from my elders all the time how it would cost this country a fortune when we're already in huge debt. So I'm not looking to the gov't to help me--never really have. I'm just trying to mind my own business. Sure, they take out a cut of every paycheck I've ever had, but I guess I'm not as arrogant or as old as some others to point the finger at the government all the time. Yes, that money out of my check would be nice. Do I feel it entitles me to judge the gov't however I see fit--no. They do provide great services for me--like a tax refund, a decent, safe place to live, freedom of speech, etc.--so maybe that money is going towards the things that the gov't still keeps in effect.
What I don't understand is that billions or trillions were spent on 2 wars, and the US can't at least make sure those who are suffering from catastrophic illness's are taking care of. I could see leaving the insurance in place for the day to day illness and injuries, but the life threatening one's the government should be picking up the tab. Just doesn't make sense :?
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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i don't think Americans fully understand our system. many just believe what they hear on their news down there and perceive it as true. like anything else run by the government, it needs major improvement. MAJOR improvement. but moving to an American-style system is just going backwards.
I agree, except we are heading toward a US style system, here in Ontario just over the last 8 years the government has de listed chiropractor services, optometrist and physiotherapy which I consider all three of those service vital and integral parts of any health care system, so unless you got insurance from work or are well off these services remain out of reach for many.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
This is true. I was talking out of anger and frustration that day--not really setting it up for a quality discussion.
I am not necessarily for U.S. health care reform either. I get to hear from my elders all the time how it would cost this country a fortune when we're already in huge debt. So I'm not looking to the gov't to help me--never really have. I'm just trying to mind my own business. Sure, they take out a cut of every paycheck I've ever had, but I guess I'm not as arrogant or as old as some others to point the finger at the government all the time. Yes, that money out of my check would be nice. Do I feel it entitles me to judge the gov't however I see fit--no. They do provide great services for me--like a tax refund, a decent, safe place to live, freedom of speech, etc.--so maybe that money is going towards the things that the gov't still keeps in effect.
What I don't understand is that billions or trillions were spent on 2 wars, and the US can't at least make sure those who are suffering from catastrophic illness's are taking care of. I could see leaving the insurance in place for the day to day illness and injuries, but the life threatening one's the government should be picking up the tab. Just doesn't make sense :?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon