Not to switch subjects, but the onslaught of anti-smoking laws is the main reason the N.R.A. is so aggressive in fighting anti-gun legislation. My local Dairy Queen had a cigarette vending machine in it when I grew up (which was nice for my delinquent friends and I in Jr. High ). If you walked into a DQ with a lit smoke today, someone would wing a Dilly Bar at your head and the cops would be called. That my friends, is why the NRA fights every challenge it can like a pit bull.
Anyone who is against smoking bans is being ridiculous. For starters, no is taking your rights away by not allowing you to smoke in public places. You are still allowed to smoke, however you as the smoker will be the one inconvenienced by having to walk outside etc. As far as letting bars etc decide whether to allow smoking, this is also ridiculous. Although people do have a choice in what establishments to frequent, what about the workers? And don't give me the answer as they have a choice as to where they work, finding aother job in this economy is not easy and once again a worker should not be the one who is inconvenienced by others smoking. I think that pot smoking should be legal as well, however you should have to smoke it in the privacy of your own home. Think about it, drinking is legal in this country, however your not allowed to drive if your over the limit? How is that any different than not allowing smoking in public places? Also smoker or not, I would think that everyone would be extremely happy that they no longer smell like an ash tray after a night of drinking. If your clothes smell that bad, how bad do you think your lungs look? People that have a problem with this law tend to fail to put the connection to second hand smoke and lung cancer together because its not immediate, but it still doesn't make it safe.
Think about it, drinking is legal in this country, however your not allowed to drive if your over the limit? How is that any different than not allowing smoking in public places? Also smoker or not, I would think that everyone would be extremely happy that they no longer smell like an ash tray after a night of drinking. If your clothes smell that bad, how bad do you think your lungs look? People that have a problem with this law tend to fail to put the connection to second hand smoke and lung cancer together because its not immediate, but it still doesn't make it safe.
You just reminded me of another interesting law. I am allowed to drink myself to oblivion, but I am not allowed to be intoxicated in public, or rather I can be arrested for public intoxication in my state. And the only way that my public intoxication can make someone else sick is if they have to witness me puking.
I dont believe it should be banned in public, but I do wish there was a smoking section at my local beach because almost every time I am there I get a nasty butt between my toes or I am taking in the beauty of the sea and smells of clean ocean air -- then I get a giant puff of nasty smoke from someone. Then I have to move all my shit.. happens almost every time.
Also, I got a cigarette but across my windshield of my car the other day driving on the interstate.. why is the earth an ashtray to so many smokers?! put it out in your car please.
This has nothing to do with health, this is just another reason for a cop to give you a ticket,it is and always will be about money.
if it was about money ... they could easily just work with the laws they got now ... how many people speed and jaywalk on a daily basis? ... like everyone?
This has nothing to do with health, this is just another reason for a cop to give you a ticket,it is and always will be about money.
if it was about money ... they could easily just work with the laws they got now ... how many people speed and jaywalk on a daily basis? ... like everyone?
People will defend them, nobody defends the smoker.
This has nothing to do with health, this is just another reason for a cop to give you a ticket,it is and always will be about money.
if it was about money ... they could easily just work with the laws they got now ... how many people speed and jaywalk on a daily basis? ... like everyone?
People will defend them, nobody defends the smoker.
why defend stupidity?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
So then you support the Patriot Act, since its for safety??? You shouldn't need to pull articles, thats why I said you are clueless beause if you use logic you will see that airbags do way more harm than good, just because they use the tag word SAFETY does not make it so. Same with smoking, How can smoking outside cause cancer??? What about car exhaust, should we ban cars also since you are of support of the outside smoking ban.
i'm no rocket scientist so you'll have to help me out on this one; how is it simple logic that air bags do more harm than good?!
as for the smoking ban, i'm all for banning smoking in every place they're willing to do it. i don't want to breathe that in for any reason, anywhere. and while we're at it we ought to make it mandatory that smokers brush their teeth after every cigarette cause it's truly difficult to talk to a smoker after they finished one.
i used to be a smoker and i'm sure i'd have been annoyed by this too, but now that i know what i used to smell like ban away!
People will defend them, nobody defends the smoker.
why defend stupidity?
Excautly, so Fine them! No one will care and it's easy money.
But it's not like they actually care about people's health is my problem, this isn't being done out of concern.
actually it is... what other reason could they possibly have? If it was to raise money then I think you'll find the money raised from cigarettes sales will far outweigh that of the 'fines' you have already suggested they are trying to dish out. So selling more cigs would actually be a better way of getting easy money right? but NYC is proactively attempting to stop people from smoking.
in the one year after the UK smoking ban was introduced sales of cigarettes slumped an amazing 2.6 BILLION. Which is reported to have saved an estimated 40,000 lives.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Anyone know if fireworks have been banned in the U.K?
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Anyone know if fireworks have been banned in the U.K?
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
I heard thay weren't on sale anymore, other than to someone with a license? I thought the place had gone nanny-state mad.
Also, I've seen a bunch of footage and photo's of the Chinese New Years celebrations from around the world, but nothing from London.
Anyone know if fireworks have been banned in the U.K?
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
uhhh a whole 5 states...
UK does not even have a full right to Freedom of Speech. We can compare our personal freedoms if you would like...
Anyone know if fireworks have been banned in the U.K?
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
uhhh a whole 5 states...
UK does not even have a full right to Freedom of Speech. We can compare our personal freedoms if you would like...
i dont care if it was in one state... my personal freedoms dont care either. I want fireworks goddammit!
We have Freedom of Speech here... we invented it... you might want to research things before just typing shit out.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Anyone know if fireworks have been banned in the U.K?
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
I heard thay weren't on sale anymore, other than to someone with a license? I thought the place had gone nanny-state mad.
Also, I've seen a bunch of footage and photo's of the Chinese New Years celebrations from around the world, but nothing from London.
god no... the only bylaw attached to them is that youcan't set them off after 11pm other than those days in November, New Years Day, etc.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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You just reminded me of another interesting law. I am allowed to drink myself to oblivion, but I am not allowed to be intoxicated in public, or rather I can be arrested for public intoxication in my state. And the only way that my public intoxication can make someone else sick is if they have to witness me puking.
I dont believe it should be banned in public, but I do wish there was a smoking section at my local beach because almost every time I am there I get a nasty butt between my toes or I am taking in the beauty of the sea and smells of clean ocean air -- then I get a giant puff of nasty smoke from someone. Then I have to move all my shit.. happens almost every time.
Also, I got a cigarette but across my windshield of my car the other day driving on the interstate.. why is the earth an ashtray to so many smokers?! put it out in your car please.
if it was about money ... they could easily just work with the laws they got now ... how many people speed and jaywalk on a daily basis? ... like everyone?
People will defend them, nobody defends the smoker.
why defend stupidity?
why defend stupidity?[/quote]
Excautly, so Fine them! No one will care and it's easy money.
But it's not like they actually care about people's health is my problem, this isn't being done out of concern.
i'm no rocket scientist so you'll have to help me out on this one; how is it simple logic that air bags do more harm than good?!
as for the smoking ban, i'm all for banning smoking in every place they're willing to do it. i don't want to breathe that in for any reason, anywhere. and while we're at it we ought to make it mandatory that smokers brush their teeth after every cigarette cause it's truly difficult to talk to a smoker after they finished one.
i used to be a smoker and i'm sure i'd have been annoyed by this too, but now that i know what i used to smell like ban away!
actually it is... what other reason could they possibly have? If it was to raise money then I think you'll find the money raised from cigarettes sales will far outweigh that of the 'fines' you have already suggested they are trying to dish out. So selling more cigs would actually be a better way of getting easy money right? but NYC is proactively attempting to stop people from smoking.
in the one year after the UK smoking ban was introduced sales of cigarettes slumped an amazing 2.6 BILLION. Which is reported to have saved an estimated 40,000 lives.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 56885.html
that's some twisted logic dude.
they aren't banned Steve, unlike some US states we have a personal freedom to buy fireworks...
oops there's one of those freedoms Pandora thinks us in the UK dont have... when in fact we do....
I'm beginning to think its her personal freedoms that are getting eradicated in front of her... you know... like the personal freedom of journalists that are being jailed because they won't reveal their sources...
I heard thay weren't on sale anymore, other than to someone with a license? I thought the place had gone nanny-state mad.
Also, I've seen a bunch of footage and photo's of the Chinese New Years celebrations from around the world, but nothing from London.
UK does not even have a full right to Freedom of Speech. We can compare our personal freedoms if you would like...
i dont care if it was in one state... my personal freedoms dont care either. I want fireworks goddammit!
We have Freedom of Speech here... we invented it... you might want to research things before just typing shit out.
even your press is censored
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
god no... the only bylaw attached to them is that youcan't set them off after 11pm other than those days in November, New Years Day, etc.