Chaos in Egypt...what if

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/

If Americans were to rally together like this over political issues do you think it would help to change political corruption any ?

Godfather.

pandora

Godfather. wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/

If Americans were to rally together like this over political issues do you think it would help to change political corruption any ?

Godfather.

I thought when I saw that on the news this am....
'how long til that is the US?'

These people are desperate, no work, poor, fixed elections. They are rebelling.

Do I think it helps to form a rebellion?
Yes but I think it's baby steps.
This has no leader, very disorganized. People are just going to get hurt unless they begin
to form a plan for change and get some money/power behind it.
Same would be true for any country.

And hopefully the US doesn't step in now and try to fix Egypt, or are we already?

maj4e

Our situation is not even remotely close to Egypt or Tunisia. Egypt has had the same leader since I was in kindergarten (now 35). Plus have you looked around this place? I've said this before and I'll reiterate: As long as our lines are for iphones and call of duty and not bread or medicine there will be no revolution.

Jason P

My parents just returned from Egypt this past Monday. They just missed it.

They said most people made less then $5 dollars a day. They also said the street vendors where the most aggressive they've ever encountered, even beating the reigning champ, Guatemala.

Jason P

maj4e wrote:

Our situation is not even remotely close to Egypt or Tunisia. Egypt has had the same leader since I was in kindergarten (now 35). Plus have you looked around this place? I've said this before and I'll reiterate: As long as our lines are for iphones and call of duty and not bread or medicine there will be no revolution.

Maybe we should send Egypt some PS3's and cell phones. Problem solved!

MotoDC

maj4e wrote:

Our situation is not even remotely close to Egypt or Tunisia. Egypt has had the same leader since I was in kindergarten (now 35). Plus have you looked around this place? I've said this before and I'll reiterate: As long as our lines are for iphones and call of duty and not bread or medicine there will be no revolution.

QFT

I'm surprised there are more AMT topics on this situation. Maybe I just missed them.

Tear gas and rubber bullets are status quo for riots/protests, but shutting down the internet? This shit is pretty much unprecedented.

Godfather.

pandora wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/

If Americans were to rally together like this over political issues do you think it would help to change political corruption any ?

Godfather.

I thought when I saw that on the news this am....
'how long til that is the US?'

These people are desperate, no work, poor, fixed elections. They are rebelling.

Do I think it helps to form a rebellion?
Yes but I think it's baby steps.
This has no leader, very disorganized. People are just going to get hurt unless they begin
to form a plan for change and get some money/power behind it.
Same would be true for any country.

And hopefully the US doesn't step in now and try to fix Egypt, or are we already?

this whole mess is sad Pandi,I hope somthing good comes from it.

Godfather.

know1

I've been checking Facebook and haven't seen anything about Egypt. What's going on over there?

zarocat

Jason P wrote:

maj4e wrote:

Our situation is not even remotely close to Egypt or Tunisia. Egypt has had the same leader since I was in kindergarten (now 35). Plus have you looked around this place? I've said this before and I'll reiterate: As long as our lines are for iphones and call of duty and not bread or medicine there will be no revolution.

Maybe we should send Egypt some PS3's and cell phones. Problem solved!

Ya, exactly. The U.S. people are so distracted that you'll never see the uprising. In my opinion, by looking at history, you can assume certain circumstances deserve the uprising of the people. If the bulls of wall street stealing your life's income and being bailed out for it, isn't a circumstance to rise up, then I don't know what is.

Jason P

zarocat wrote:

Jason P wrote:

maj4e wrote:

Our situation is not even remotely close to Egypt or Tunisia. Egypt has had the same leader since I was in kindergarten (now 35). Plus have you looked around this place? I've said this before and I'll reiterate: As long as our lines are for iphones and call of duty and not bread or medicine there will be no revolution.

Maybe we should send Egypt some PS3's and cell phones. Problem solved!

Ya, exactly. The U.S. people are so distracted that you'll never see the uprising. In my opinion, by looking at history, you can assume certain circumstances deserve the uprising of the people. If the bulls of wall street stealing your life's income and being bailed out for it, isn't a circumstance to rise up, then I don't know what is.

If their was a rebellion in the US, what swift change would we all hope for? After we destroy the banking system and burn the constitution, then what? Free waffles for everyone?

The key question is, would things get better if 300 million people destroyed our government and tried to start anew? Who would lead? What party / group is organized enough to have the support of the people to bring reform ... and most important, stability and peace?

zarocat

Are you trying to say that because the result of an uprising by the American people is unknown, that we should just stick to what we know even though it's unhealthy & benefits only 1 % of the population ?

Free waffles for anyone ... oh ya ... well guess what, you'll be the first in line when I launch a waffle out of my high powered waffle gun directly into your throat ... happy thoughts

Destroy our government ? Do you truly feel the government in place is there for you, making it your government? You can't seriously believe that the U.S. government acts on the behalf of the people and their greater good as a policy maker ?
Who would lead ? Well, hopefully the government would lead instead of the federal reserve leading the government. Most importantly -> stability and peace ? So, you feel stability and peace now, seeing that stability and peace would not exist because we would destroy the government ?
I'm sorry but is the constitution not a flame as I write this ? I wouldn't suggest destroying the banking system but I would definitely suggest exchanging the position of power between the banking system and the government.
I am a firm believer that we all need to put our efforts into the responsibility of sustaining our immediate surroundings with the notion of the greater good in mind. From there, future sustainability would trickle up and evolve into a collective greater good over time ... Truthfully, I think because of certain death for all of us, anyone can attempt to do anything they want because they only live once, and want to live this one time as they choose. If not giving a fuck has to happen to get what you want, some people won't give a fuck to get what they want. The rest of us have to try and stop them or slow them down.
... I think I've lost sense in what I wanted to say ...

Jason P

zarocat wrote:

Are you trying to say that because the result of an uprising by the American people is unknown, that we should just stick to what we know even though it's unhealthy & benefits only 1 % of the population ?

Free waffles for anyone ... oh ya ... well guess what, you'll be the first in line when I launch a waffle out of my high powered waffle gun directly into your throat ... happy thoughts

Destroy our government ? Do you truly feel the government in place is there for you, making it your government? You can't seriously believe that the U.S. government acts on the behalf of the people and their greater good as a policy maker ?
Who would lead ? Well, hopefully the government would lead instead of the federal reserve leading the government. Most importantly -> stability and peace ? So, you feel stability and peace now, seeing that stability and peace would not exist because we would destroy the government ?
I'm sorry but is the constitution not a flame as I write this ? I wouldn't suggest destroying the banking system but I would definitely suggest exchanging the position of power between the banking system and the government.
I am a firm believer that we all need to put our efforts into the responsibility of sustaining our immediate surroundings with the notion of the greater good in mind. From there, future sustainability would trickle up and evolve into a collective greater good over time ... Truthfully, I think because of certain death for all of us, anyone can attempt to do anything they want because they only live once, and want to live this one time as they choose. If not giving a fuck has to happen to get what you want, some people won't give a fuck to get what they want. The rest of us have to try and stop them or slow them down.
... I think I've lost sense in what I wanted to say ...

I wasn't trying to get a rise out of you ... I was just trying to point out that it would be impossible under the current conditions. I do feel stability and peace. I don't have to worry about being ambushed by rebels or having a bomb explode at a Taco Bell while I'm ordering a chalupa. Obviously there are areas that are failing or under corruption, but considering there are over 300M living variables spread amongst 50 governments that are all working in unison, nothing will be perfect.

Things do need to improve, but not through violence. New leaders need to emerge. A new political party needs to emerge. And if the US does fall into anarchy, I'm moving to Canada. Now tell me more about this waffle gun of yours ... I'm intrigued. :ugeek:

zarocat

Well, it has a chamber for all toppings. The waffle goes into the barrel which is connected to several chambers holding syrups, fruits & sweets. It shoots at a high speed banana shaped meal for direct entry to the mouth and for maximum slide down throat capability.
All for 19.95. Not to be used with short sleeve shirts.

JonnyPistachio

Jason P wrote:

I don't have to worry about being ambushed by rebels or having a bomb explode at a Taco Bell while I'm ordering a chalupa.

I'm more worried about the bomb AFTER the chalupa.

Jason P

zarocat wrote:

Well, it has a chamber for all toppings. The waffle goes into the barrel which is connected to several chambers holding syrups, fruits & sweets. It shoots at a high speed banana shaped meal for direct entry to the mouth and for maximum slide down throat capability.
All for 19.95. Not to be used with short sleeve shirts.

I believe we could find a market for such a weapon in Wisconsin.

Jason P

We are all witnessing a historical event. This revolution has the potential to change world policy. It will also define the paradigm shift of the effect of social media on domestic policy and politics. It will be very interesting to see how this saga unfolds ...

zarocat

Jason P wrote:

We are all witnessing a historical event. This revolution has the potential to change world policy. It will also define the paradigm shift of the effect of social media on domestic policy and politics. It will be very interesting to see how this saga unfolds ...

I just caught up on today's events, and you're right.

whygohome

Godfather. wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/

If Americans were to rally together like this over political issues do you think it would help to change political corruption any ?

Godfather.

The American people would never exert the energy. There are celebrities to worship, the boob tube is always on, and McDonald's has 2 for 1 Big Macs.

We are content to be docile sheep.

Godfather.

whygohome wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/

If Americans were to rally together like this over political issues do you think it would help to change political corruption any ?

Godfather.

The American people would never exert the energy. There are celebrities to worship, the boob tube is always on, and McDonald's has 2 for 1 Big Macs.

We are content to be docile sheep.

You are probably right.
The people that do stand up in this country are often called radicals or as some of the people on this forum call them "REDNECKS" so a story like this makes me wonder who the real sheep are.

Godfather.

zarocat

Egypt in pictures

http://english.aljazeera.net/photo_gall ... 89116.html

zarocat

Uh-oh.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/thousands-inma ... 0-545.html