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pjhawks

Wobbie said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

I don’t see any prison time but, as I said, I would imagine he’s done.

gotta use a burner phone.

gotta use the assistant coaches like Pitino did. amateur move by Miller.  i can't wait to see what big name coaches go down with this. i think it might be some huge names.

Wobbie

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

I don’t see any prison time but, as I said, I would imagine he’s done.

gotta use a burner phone.

gotta use the assistant coaches like Pitino did. amateur move by Miller.  i can't wait to see what big name coaches go down with this. i think it might be some huge names.

really, tho, doesn’t the FBI have better things to do?

cutz

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

Just for argument sake: what if Miller was caught on Wire-Tap only saying he'll pay Ayton $100K , but the Feds have no proof he was actually paid? Then what?

Even if the NBA gets rid of the one-and-done, which they should, ther will still be rouge Agents. But, i think it would help.

tweedyfanjen

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

I don't see this at all. Both schools have already looked into the allegations and found nothing. It's a shame these schools are being brought into this crap with people who took thousands of dollars. 

pjhawks

tweedyfanjen said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

I don't see this at all. Both schools have already looked into the allegations and found nothing. It's a shame these schools are being brought into this crap with people who took thousands of dollars. 

so you trust Michigan State's own investigation? this is the same athletic department who buried rape, sexual assault and assaults by their players and an assistant coach.  Before all this crap I thought Coach K looked worn out this year and was on the verge of retirement. I think this just pushes him along. 

pjhawks

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

Just for argument sake: what if Miller was caught on Wire-Tap only saying he'll pay Ayton $100K , but the Feds have no proof he was actually paid? Then what?

Even if the NBA gets rid of the one-and-done, which they should, ther will still be rouge Agents. But, i think it would help.

I don't think the payment matters.  If it's that clear that he offered a bribe  I think that at least is conspiracy.  it's just a matter of who the feds want to bring down.  As i understand it the investigation started as a larger financial crimes case.  

I think college sports needs to have agents register like the pros do and allow players to have agents. that being said even if you pay players the cheating will never stop at the highest levels.  It's be going on forever and the big boys will just find new creative ways to do it.

Wobbie

I don't think basketball players should be paid but I also don't think they should have to do the one year charade. let HS kids try to go straight to the NBA. otherwise, your college scholarship is your "payment"...you can either use it as a pathway to the NBA or a pathway to a degree.

Eddieredder

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

He will coach again. There are plenty of desperate programs out there. There are a lot of coaches who have done a lot worse who got other chances. 

tweedyfanjen

pjhawks said:

tweedyfanjen said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

I don't see this at all. Both schools have already looked into the allegations and found nothing. It's a shame these schools are being brought into this crap with people who took thousands of dollars. 

so you trust Michigan State's own investigation? this is the same athletic department who buried rape, sexual assault and assaults by their players and an assistant coach.  Before all this crap I thought Coach K looked worn out this year and was on the verge of retirement. I think this just pushes him along. 

I honestly don't know a lot about Michigan State other than what Izzo said about this particular situation with Bridges. However I've been following Duke since Coach K. Wendell Carter's family had dinner with an agent and when things became weird, they left before any food was served. This sort of situation being lumped in with kids taking thousands of dollars from agents is absurd. Is there illegal recruiting and bribery taking place in college basketball? Absolutely. Someone should follow all of this money back to the shoe companies, for one. 

cutz

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

I can’t see sean miller surviving this. continuing the proud tradition of “midnight” lute olson.

he will never coach again and if he is lucky wont go to federal prison for bribery.  how do you a coach a guy in college who you paid 100k to get?  it's gonna be real interesting how many coaches get pulled into this.  i can see a lot of retirements at the end of this year like Izzo and Coach K.

Just for argument sake: what if Miller was caught on Wire-Tap only saying he'll pay Ayton $100K , but the Feds have no proof he was actually paid? Then what?

Even if the NBA gets rid of the one-and-done, which they should, ther will still be rouge Agents. But, i think it would help.

I don't think the payment matters.  If it's that clear that he offered a bribe  I think that at least is conspiracy.  it's just a matter of who the feds want to bring down.  As i understand it the investigation started as a larger financial crimes case.  

I think college sports needs to have agents register like the pros do and allow players to have agents. that being said even if you pay players the cheating will never stop at the highest levels.  It's be going on forever and the big boys will just find new creative ways to do it.

Yes, cheating has gone on forever. And i agree: the big boys will continue to cheat. 

It cracked me up when i was watching the Arizona game when the announcers were saying that Arizona cleared Ayton to play. No shit!!>At this point of the season you may as well play him, even if they find out he did take money, because they will forfeit the games anyway. Now, if this came out after about 5-10 games would Arizona sit him out? 

tempo_n_groove

Oklahoma and Trae Young.  Steady decline from him.

I do believe that teams have found a way to contain him and he does not have an answer.

He looks to have peaked and that's a shame as I thought he was going to be something special...

JK_Livin

Free Sean Miller

Wobbie

BYU is loaded with hateable players, but TJ Haws is the worst. someone did a tribute video after TJ yelled at a heckler to “shut the eff up!”

https://twitter.com/_badsoup_/status/969314811254267904

eeriepadave

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

Wobbie

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

the answer to all questions is “money.”

BIGDaddyWil

Wobbie said:

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

the answer to all questions is “money.”

That's correct!!!!!  What a joke!

The Juggler

BIGDaddyWil said:

Wobbie said:

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

the answer to all questions is “money.”

That's correct!!!!!  What a joke!

There's only one tournament worthy of playing on that stage...
I think they're moving back to Chicago or Indianapolis next year

BIGDaddyWil

The Juggler said:

BIGDaddyWil said:

Wobbie said:

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

the answer to all questions is “money.”

That's correct!!!!!  What a joke!

There's only one tournament worthy of playing on that stage...
I think they're moving back to Chicago or Indianapolis next year

Yes, you're correct about the location.

HesCalledDyer

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

Same reason the ACC tournament is at Barclay's.

eeriepadave

HesCalledDyer said:

eeriepadave said:

why was the Big 10 tournament held in NYC and like a week earlier?

Same reason the ACC tournament is at Barclay's.

which is?  money?