What size venue's should Pearl Jam play from now on?

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    glad this poster above is on my ignore list ;)
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    Just seeing them in general is awesome for me.

    Seen them at the Vic and Irving plaza, both amazing (crowd sucked at the vic though). And I was at lolla which was my fave concert so far.

    I was also at Pburgh, and the show was awesome, one of my fav's as well. So I dont know what that other guy was talking about.
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  • glad this poster above is on my ignore list ;)
    You have been humiliated, and you know what I am talking about. You are not a real PJ fan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDHbnF0z4EE
  • glad this poster above is on my ignore list ;)
    You have been humiliated, and you know what I am talking about. You are not a real PJ fan.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDHbnF0z4EE
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    I see Starfucker got back on here somehow. :D

    To answer the question, I think it depends on the location. Big arenas up north, smaller college arenas or theaters in the south.
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,138
    wherever they feckin want!

    Id still like to see a "residency" tour a la phill lesh

    Two weeks of shows at the beacon in NYC, the Wiltern in LA, the Vic in Chi town, the Orpheum in Boston, the 9:30 club in DC

    something like that
  • glbglb Posts: 356
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  • donniedonnie Posts: 15
    Halifax show (part of the "canadian wreck of a tour") sold out in 14 minutes

    The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY
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  • donnie wrote:
    Halifax show (part of the "canadian wreck of a tour") sold out in 14 minutes

    I was at that show! Under mikes nose! Awesome shit!
    BTW i thoiught 05 was one of PJs best tours to date! What gives?

    WOULD KILL TO SEE THEM IN A VENUE LIKE THIS! ! !

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,532
    Get_Right wrote:
    wherever they feckin want!

    Id still like to see a "residency" tour a la phill lesh

    Two weeks of shows at the beacon in NYC, the Wiltern in LA, the Vic in Chi town, the Orpheum in Boston, the 9:30 club in DC

    something like that

    yeah that would be sweet hell they have enough material to do that now, plus it would keep me from going to every city in the north east well maybe not every city but you know ....
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  • The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY


    I suggest you check out attendance records from the Rolling Stones last US leg of the "Bigger Bang" tour, (aka Michael Cohl's cash cow which he ran into the ground).

    Did they really think that people would continue to pay $450 to sit on the 50 yard line of a football field and see a sub-par 19 song performance?

    The public spoke... Soldier Field (in CHICAGO) had the ENTIRE 400 LEVEL SECTION CLOSED OFF. Once again, the ENTIRE 400 LEVEL OF SOLDIER FIELD WAS DRAPED OFF. In case you didn't get it.. THE ENTIRE 400 LEVEL OF SOLDIER FIELD WAS C L O S E D. (because they couldn't sell the tickets!)

    That was just the start.. at other various stadium shows around the country, various "tee shirt" deals were offered. Buy a bundle of 4 tickets at a discounted price, and get free Stones tee shirts!

    Im sure those deeply discounted tickets and tee shirt bundles were because of how HOT those tickets were and how fast they were going.. =/

    Throw that in with the blowjobs that Mick Jagger was giving Bill Clinton and Martin Scorcese (Lets postpone a show in Atlantic City that people paid money to see, so we can be fresh for the Clinton club show & the Marty movie filming)

    Hawaii's show at Aloha Stadium was even CANCELLED because of how low ticket sales were. So low, that it would have been a loss for the production to ship out to the islands for this show.

    And last but not least, when Pearl Jam does a live DVD, they dont pay extras to fill the seats and act as "fans".



    You couldn't GIVE away a Stones ticket in the Fall of 2006.

    EDIT: This is a posting from the Rolling Stones fan board at http://www.shidoobee.com:

    " Attendance - Anyone who uses weather/prices/etc as justification is living in fantasy land. THEY TARPED OFF THE ENTIRE UPPER SECTIONS....APPROXIMATELY 20K OR MORE SEATS......NOT SOLD, NO ONE THERE. I SEEN ONLY TWO SECTIONS ON THE WEST SIDE WITH PEOPLE THERE. My sister purchased 5th row directly off to the side of the stage (four tickets) at $100 total, $25 each. My friend that came with my wife and I purchased a ticket seated right up against the B Stage on the way into the stadium for $35. Sadly, all of these tickets showed a face value of $0.....whether the sheep will admit it or not......THAT IS A PAPERED TICKET....THEY GAVE THEM AWAY FOR FREE AND THOSE FOLKS STILL REFUSED TO GO INTO THE STADIUM!!!!!!!!! If this is truly the last show in Chicago as I predict, then Michael Cohl and anyone else involved with choosing a stadium venue for the 10th stop since 2002 in Chicago should be ashamed of themselves. While my last memory of Chicago Stones will include a very memorable SHE WAS HOT, it will be tainted by the fact that Cohl set them up to look like jackasses......As anyone in a local band will tell you, and I did it a few times myself, there is no worse feeling as a musician to look out to your crowd and see so many people who have always come out to see you deciding to stay home. Greed on behalf of Cohl has decimated the image of the stones in Chicago! Even FUCKING BON JOVI SOLD OUT SOLDIER FIELD THIS YEAR!!!! This is unaccepatable and all real, and intelligent fans should be outraged and embarrassed! "

    Remember, Chicago is the same city where Pearl Jam played to over 100,000 people this year at Lollapalooza...
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY


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  • deadnotedeadnote Posts: 1,678
    it sure would be nice if i had a dream about me and my band

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  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    a5pj wrote:
    Just seeing them in general is awesome for me.

    Seen them at the Vic and Irving plaza, both amazing (crowd sucked at the vic though). And I was at lolla which was my fave concert so far.

    I was also at Pburgh, and the show was awesome, one of my fav's as well. So I dont know what that other guy was talking about.

    What are you talking about? The crowd sucked at the Vic, how the whole crowd was singing B-sides too bad I got shut out.
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  • eduardoeduardo Posts: 151
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY

    dude wat the fuck are you talking about? please tell me where you get this information from. tarps everywhere covering unsold seats? first off, who gives a shit, you think PJ cares either? and wat the hell are you talking about subpar fans? your a dumbass and stop promoting that fucking movie.
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  • edigerediger Posts: 308
    The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY

    What Canadian tour are you talking about? The only one they've ever done did amazingly. Great setlists and loud, sold out arenas. A good chunk of the shows sold the first afternoon they were on sale. You may want to get your facts straight...
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  • The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY

    wow dude. You're fucking nuts. The Avocado tour was incredible. I saw the entire west coast run and they sold out/nearly sold out every venue. I also saw them twice in Chicago and sold out both of those nights. You are a joke.
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  • To answer the original question...I'm cool with them continuing their arena size model. However, it would be a dream to see them play at the Greek Theater in Berkeley. This is the coolest venue, holds about 5000 and is absolutely beautiful. Miles and miles above the LA Greek. If you've been there you know what I'm talking about. Les Claypool called it his most favorite place to play.
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  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    wow dude. You're fucking nuts. The Avocado tour was incredible. I saw the entire west coast run and they sold out/nearly sold out every venue. I also saw them twice in Chicago and sold out both of those nights. You are a joke.



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  • The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY

    Not sure where you got this impression from or your facts wrong but I'm actually in the middle of a project researching PJ's concert history in terms of attendances and venue capacities.

    According to Billboard PJ had the 14th top North American tour in 2006 at mid year, grossing $17.2m. And that didn;t take into account the very successful West Leg and European tour.

    You also say their 2005 Canadian tour was a disaster? I've managed to find confirmation of at least 16 of their 21 shows being sold out, grossing $25m+ which in my book is pretty good going. Again according to Billboard the Rolling Stones was a 38K+ sell out

    Maybe they can't play 20-30k venues in every market, but there aren't too many bands who can, but they continue to be very successful touring wise and lets not forget overall the North American concert industry is considerably weaker than it was a decade ago.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    dont listen to a word of what this "faraway eyes" says. he is a fraud. he has been on this board for years, contstantly changing his name because he keeps getting booted off for starting nonsense with people. he has been saying pearl jam has "humiliated" themselves and their fans for years. yet he constantly supports those old fart sell out stones at every chance possible.

    the avocado tour was indeed one of the highest grossing tours of that year despite having some of the lowest ticket prices available---as compared to the hundreds of dollars the higher grossing stones charged that boosted their numbers more. it was yet another solid tour by the mighty pj.

    The correct answer is 5,000 or less capacity venues except for New York and maybe Chicago.
    The last tour was a sales disaster in North America. Starting off with the Canadian train wreck of a tour. Toronto 2 is a classic example of what this tour was about. Standard setlist,ugly black tarps to block off UNSOLD sections, and a complete lack of interest by so called fans of admittedly sub par, but NEW material. Many shows suffered this humiliation including Pittsburgh Mellon arena and the 2 Gorge shows to name a few. Thousands and thousands of empty seats. The tarrps are brought out and the band gets pissed and delivers a standard subpar setlist.
    Rumor has it, when PJ opened for the Stones in Pittsburgh in '05 the show fell 3,000 people short of a sellout, causing the Stones promoter to go through the roof. He felt that PJ's political pandering turned people away. As a result the Stones were humiliated, and their tour only grossed 500million dollars. (NEW WORLD RECORD)! It could have been more though!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usuPwYGlwvY
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Flagg wrote:
    I see Starfucker got back on here somehow. :D

    To answer the question, I think it depends on the location. Big arenas up north, smaller college arenas or theaters in the south.


    yup--starfucker, tokyo drift (worst name ever)---the loser cant seem to stay away. it really is a shame.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    yikes...looks like starfucker/tokyo drift/fairway eyes has just been...HUMILIATED. CONFIRMED!

    STONES HAVE SUCKED FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS! POW!
    I suggest you check out attendance records from the Rolling Stones last US leg of the "Bigger Bang" tour, (aka Michael Cohl's cash cow which he ran into the ground).

    Did they really think that people would continue to pay $450 to sit on the 50 yard line of a football field and see a sub-par 19 song performance?

    The public spoke... Soldier Field (in CHICAGO) had the ENTIRE 400 LEVEL SECTION CLOSED OFF. Once again, the ENTIRE 400 LEVEL OF SOLDIER FIELD WAS DRAPED OFF. In case you didn't get it.. THE ENTIRE 400 LEVEL OF SOLDIER FIELD WAS C L O S E D. (because they couldn't sell the tickets!)

    That was just the start.. at other various stadium shows around the country, various "tee shirt" deals were offered. Buy a bundle of 4 tickets at a discounted price, and get free Stones tee shirts!

    Im sure those deeply discounted tickets and tee shirt bundles were because of how HOT those tickets were and how fast they were going.. =/

    Throw that in with the blowjobs that Mick Jagger was giving Bill Clinton and Martin Scorcese (Lets postpone a show in Atlantic City that people paid money to see, so we can be fresh for the Clinton club show & the Marty movie filming)

    Hawaii's show at Aloha Stadium was even CANCELLED because of how low ticket sales were. So low, that it would have been a loss for the production to ship out to the islands for this show.

    And last but not least, when Pearl Jam does a live DVD, they dont pay extras to fill the seats and act as "fans".



    You couldn't GIVE away a Stones ticket in the Fall of 2006.

    EDIT: This is a posting from the Rolling Stones fan board at http://www.shidoobee.com:

    " Attendance - Anyone who uses weather/prices/etc as justification is living in fantasy land. THEY TARPED OFF THE ENTIRE UPPER SECTIONS....APPROXIMATELY 20K OR MORE SEATS......NOT SOLD, NO ONE THERE. I SEEN ONLY TWO SECTIONS ON THE WEST SIDE WITH PEOPLE THERE. My sister purchased 5th row directly off to the side of the stage (four tickets) at $100 total, $25 each. My friend that came with my wife and I purchased a ticket seated right up against the B Stage on the way into the stadium for $35. Sadly, all of these tickets showed a face value of $0.....whether the sheep will admit it or not......THAT IS A PAPERED TICKET....THEY GAVE THEM AWAY FOR FREE AND THOSE FOLKS STILL REFUSED TO GO INTO THE STADIUM!!!!!!!!! If this is truly the last show in Chicago as I predict, then Michael Cohl and anyone else involved with choosing a stadium venue for the 10th stop since 2002 in Chicago should be ashamed of themselves. While my last memory of Chicago Stones will include a very memorable SHE WAS HOT, it will be tainted by the fact that Cohl set them up to look like jackasses......As anyone in a local band will tell you, and I did it a few times myself, there is no worse feeling as a musician to look out to your crowd and see so many people who have always come out to see you deciding to stay home. Greed on behalf of Cohl has decimated the image of the stones in Chicago! Even FUCKING BON JOVI SOLD OUT SOLDIER FIELD THIS YEAR!!!! This is unaccepatable and all real, and intelligent fans should be outraged and embarrassed! "

    Remember, Chicago is the same city where Pearl Jam played to over 100,000 people this year at Lollapalooza...
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  • SENROCKSENROCK Posts: 10,736
    as said in the other 100 threads asking this question, i nominate the boys to play at the Hollywood Bowl. Complete with fireworks during The Masters solos! :D
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  • If they can go somewhere and sell out a 20,000 seat arena then they should definitely keep doing it. I imagine they'll never have a problem selling out Madison Square Garden so they should always play there if they're touring.

    Small venues can be very cool too; the Astoria felt so imtimate yet a little bit insane at the same time. The intimacy made everyone there feel super special, and its hard to forget that kind of feeling.

    On the other hand, i was in Nijmegen when there was over 30,000 people and that felt wonderful. To know that so many people turned up to see one band makes me feel so good. And it still felt like the band was communicating with every single person there.

    I have to agree with this post...
  • London_Jam wrote:
    I have to agree with this post...

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