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  • Mikee J
    Mikee J Posts: 1,323
    Sweet...... I love it....solidarity!

    I think over the years we have earned our right to expect some PJ love this year....

    I am gonna hate it when it all happens over the water!
    "My body's nobody's body but mine"
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    sorry dudes...Pearl Jam is a US band...fly your fucking asses over if you wanna be part of this shit! :mrgreen:


    Very well put.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Tboz51 wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    sorry dudes...Pearl Jam is a US band...fly your fucking asses over if you wanna be part of this shit! :mrgreen:


    Very well put.
    no not at all well put..ALOT OF EUROPEANS FLY OUR ASSES TO SEE PJ IN THE STATES....
    the thing is that how many of usa fly to europe for europe tour???not as much as we will be in pj20
    and the funny is,the few Americans comes in europe tour they ask when is the next European tour..cos they enjoy more the shows in our continent.....now this is well put...
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Bigda
    Bigda Posts: 469
    AMEN, Dimitri. couldnt phrase it better way myself.
    shows in the US are really a lot less intense than any of the European. i swear.
    and let's stop this negativeness, guys. it just sucks.
    fight the power, not ourselves.
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  • Mikee J
    Mikee J Posts: 1,323
    Unless I am very much mistaken, PJ20 is about celebrating 20 years of Pearl Jam. In that 20 years Europe, South America and Australasia in particular have given the band so much love. Just because they are from the US doesn't mean shit (in this context), they are a GLOBAL band.

    I think we will get our love, just maybe not this year.. the individual band members are very busy. Thats fine, but the argument that they are a US band so it should be a solely US based celebration, is dead in the water frankly. For a start, many of the bands influences are very UK based. Ed often talks about The Who, The Clash, The Stranglers etc and Mike told me to my own face his favourite band of all times in The Stones. I mean, if we are to really think about it, to celebrate Pearl Jam is to celebrate all that has happened to them before and after they became the worlds best band. The events in Roskilde also shaped who they are, there is no doubt about that.

    On a individual level, the band members are clearly concerned with US based political and environmental issues but this is not about the individual members. This about the band, the phenomenon that transcends the US. The last 20 years of music and activism which has touched the lives of so many people around the globe, many of us who cannot, due only to our geographic position, celebrate with the group of musicians that has had such a profound effect on our lives. Its a really bummer and trust me, if I could I would travel to fu#*in Mars to see them play.

    Yes, they are a US band. Yes, its understandable the celebrations have a US focus. But to suggest it should be US based because they are from the US is just short sighted and disrespectful of fans from other parts of the world.
    "My body's nobody's body but mine"
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    Finally some discussion in this thread! Not that I didn't like the smilies :D

    Go Dimitris and MikeeJ!! Just cuz PJ is made up of Americans doesn't justify ur comments that we shd "fly our asses over" to the US (large letters not necessary ;) ) to see 'em. That doesn't at all represent what the band stands for. I have to agree completely with MikeeJ's comments. Wake up and smell this global village we live in. Nothing is about any one nation/continent any more. Everyone realises that what affects one nation affects us all - culturally and otherwise. So if we feel like making a kind request to our favourite band to include us in their celebrations, we shouldn't be over-looked just cuz we don't fly the same flag :P

    Watch youtube videos and listen carefully to your boots, sunshine, you'll hear more enthusiasm and general madness for PJ from the European crowds - cuz we're classy like that :lol::lol: (this last bit is a joke, keep your knickers on! Everyone loves PJ and we all show it at their gigs) :mrgreen:
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    sorry dudes...Pearl Jam is a US band...fly your fucking asses over if you wanna be part of this shit! :mrgreen:


    Very well put.
    no not at all well put..ALOT OF EUROPEANS FLY OUR ASSES TO SEE PJ IN THE STATES....
    the thing is that how many of usa fly to europe for europe tour???not as much as we will be in pj20
    and the funny is,the few Americans comes in europe tour they ask when is the next European tour..cos they enjoy more the shows in our continent.....now this is well put...
    .

    For a 20 year festival you think an American band you probably had no clue about till 1992-1993 (as they hadn't cleanly surfaced yet) should do their celebration festival in Europe?

    The people of Seattle have a complaint souley based on the origins of the band.

    This isn't Erasure, The Cult, Rolling Stones. If they held their anniversary festival in the US I'd be pissed if I was from Europe.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Now all festivals need to be set with fans screams and yells?

    Maybe the 30 year could be settled by the fans who do the best wave? Or the fans who can keep the most beach balls in the air?

    You mostly are passionate over nothing. The festival will be in the US, already determined. What is there to argue about?

    Get on planes, fly your asses over, take a boat (non Titanic) and let's all have fun loving OUR band.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Now all festivals need to be set with fans screams and yells?

    Maybe the 30 year could be settled by the fans who do the best wave? Or the fans who can keep the most beach balls in the air?

    You mostly are passionate over nothing. The festival will be in the US, already determined. What is there to argue about?

    Get on planes, fly your asses over, take a boat (non Titanic) and let's all have fun loving OUR band.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFOWPgN3Fm8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaNbXrmVWPo
    no need to scream and yell..just give the energy to the band to stay speechless.....
    be sure..we will be fly our asses there...but at europe 2012 tour,fly your asses here to get the difference,and dont worry,me and all the europeans here we will help you to book your European 2013 tour,cos you will come back after the best experience you will have...to see a PEARL JAM EUROPE SHOW.... ;)
    see you at labor weekend at the states... :)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Tboz51 wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    no not at all well put..ALOT OF EUROPEANS FLY OUR ASSES TO SEE PJ IN THE STATES....
    the thing is that how many of usa fly to europe for europe tour???not as much as we will be in pj20
    and the funny is,the few Americans comes in europe tour they ask when is the next European tour..cos they enjoy more the shows in our continent.....now this is well put...
    .

    For a 20 year festival you think an American band you probably had no clue about till 1992-1993 (as they hadn't cleanly surfaced yet) should do their celebration festival in Europe?

    The people of Seattle have a complaint souley based on the origins of the band.

    This isn't Erasure, The Cult, Rolling Stones. If they held their anniversary festival in the US I'd be pissed if I was from Europe.
    i agree..pj must play pj20 weekend in USA..its their home..but give a few dates to Europeans for celebrate this anniversary would be so cool... :)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    I have read it a few times in here, and maybe it is a little skewed (but) I don't think PJ is maliciously leaving anyone out.

    I'd gather that they had to pick a spot to give to all of us and they did it in their home. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Don't think me an evil person, from my perspective that comment made me laugh. I respect your/all fans passion and can't wait to meet you and as many others like you and I.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:

    For a 20 year festival you think an American band you probably had no clue about till 1992-1993 (as they hadn't cleanly surfaced yet) should do their celebration festival in Europe?

    The people of Seattle have a complaint souley based on the origins of the band.

    This isn't Erasure, The Cult, Rolling Stones. If they held their anniversary festival in the US I'd be pissed if I was from Europe.
    i agree..pj must play pj20 weekend in USA..its their home..but give a few dates to Europeans for celebrate this anniversary would be so cool... :)

    Yeah, this.
    We never said that PJ20 shd not happen in the US - see our comments in the rest of the thread, u'd have realised this. I initially agreed and still agree with comments that PJ20 shd be in Seattle where all of this took off.
    All we're essentially saying is that they're not just a US band in the sense that they have garnered a strong global following over their career. Whether we caught wind of them in '90/'91/'92/'93...whatever, is irrelevant, cuz then you're basically also saying younger or newer fans haven't as much right to be fans as those of us who've liked them since the 90s :P

    And I did say keep your knickers on abt my comment about how us Europeans show our passion at PJ gigs...cuz, like I said we all show big love for our band. No one is better, we're just different. And that isn't bad ;)
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    With all due respect, Pearl Jam is an American/US band.

    Your argument isn't valid because the Beatles are a British band.

    People in Uganda could care less about PJ/the Beatles/Rolling Stones.

    There is no such thing as a "global band".

    You're entitled to your opinion.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    Tboz51 wrote:
    With all due respect, Pearl Jam is an American/US band.

    Your argument isn't valid because the Beatles are a British band.

    People in Uganda could care less about PJ/the Beatles/Rolling Stones.

    There is no such thing as a "global band".

    You're entitled to your opinion.

    Yes, they are American. And I rather admire their patriotism. But IMO and what I was trying to get at was that that doesn't mean they 'owe' US fans more (whatever that means!) or owe any of us more than others.

    I didn't mention the Beatles and as far as I know nobody refutes they are British.

    The "global band" will take far too long for me to explain what I mean and as I have a life beyond this forum, I'm afraid I can't spare that time :P

    I know. And I have plenty of opinions. That's why I haven't shut up yet ;):lol:
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Don't think me an evil person, from my perspective that comment made me laugh. I respect your/all fans passion and can't wait to meet you and as many others like you and I.
    no way buddy,we just make a conversation here,no judging person,or personality,just the opinions,and say what i believe-think :)
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Don't think me an evil person, from my perspective that comment made me laugh. I respect your/all fans passion and can't wait to meet you and as many others like you and I.


    Respect

    :-)
    no way buddy,we just make a conversation here,no judging person,or personality,just the opinions,and say what i believe-think :)
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    :) ☮
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • guypjfreak
    guypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Tboz51 wrote:
    With all due respect, Pearl Jam is an American/US band.

    Your argument isn't valid because the Beatles are a British band.

    People in Uganda could care less about PJ/the Beatles/Rolling Stones.

    There is no such thing as a "global band".

    You're entitled to your opinion.

    no ones saying any thing about WHERE pj come from but WHERE there fans ARE and it would be great for a lot of people if they were to come and play a gig or 2 over here . i think we can all agree on that one :D

    as for being a global band well yes i think they are a global band in the same way the Beatles and the stones are/were.
    im sure you can add a FEW others to that collective ,Pink Floyd for example. and Elvis though not a band IS a global Phenomenona and long may it remain so. :D:D
    peace :thumbup:
  • strummers
    strummers Posts: 2,611
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  • Tboz51
    Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    No peace, more arguing!

    :-)

    What else do we have to do on here?!

    EDIT:
    I didn't see them live till 2000 because I was a broke ass, dumbass, loser and had too many kids to feed. Feed my kids or feed Ed V.???

    I chose my young ones. ;-)
    ;-)

    I respect all of your opinions, I just don't share them all.

    I doubt anyone in here would argue the iconic status of the band. I agree the are a global sensation. But they don't play a lot in Africa, so I'd say they don't have as large of a following there. :-)

    I wouldn't ever expect them to fly to England, prep, rehearse and play 2 shows.

    I'd bet post festival they go Canada then Europe or South America.

    Either/any of the scenarios will make some happy and some unhappy.

    I am not a fan of pandering or entitlement. In fact I've wanted several times to beg or plead on here. But can't start a thread "petition to play Gone in Noblesville".

    So, I jabbed the original poster cause I too (at times) want something. But I don't get it.. :-/

    So is life.

    D, if you come to the states and roll thru Noblesville I'll take care of your stay. My treat.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)

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