I just can't believe what I'm reading from some of you... You guys need some music history lessons to learn how important The Beatles are to modern music. Even when they were singing "Twist and Shout", they were bringing music to another level.
And it's true, the day The Beatles met Bob Dylan... everything changed once again; Revolver was born!
Ignorance is bliss, they say... And why am I wasting my time with this post...
In my humble opinion, The Beatles is the only band mightier than PJ. They were just a pretty perfect little band with some HUGE songs. Yes, some of the lyrics, especially their early work, were quite simple, but you have to see them as a product of their time, just like PJ sounds like a product of their time.
Yes songs like 'Obladi-oblada' and 'Yellow submarine' are quite lame, but the rest are not even close to being mediocre and we´re talking about a HUGE backlog!
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"I once had a girl /
or should I say she once had me"
I feel bad putting this asinine thread back on top, but that's one of my favorite lyrics.
Great song, album, band!
I'm torn between that song and "Nowhere Man" as my favorite song of all time.
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not a huge mega fan, but i do like a fair amount of their stuff. if it can have an affect on people nowadays, i can only imagine how revolutionary it must have been when it was first being heard.
but like someone said, you can't force someone to like something. opinions are opinions
oh yeah and just because something is radio friendly, it doesn't mean it's a bad song. lots of good songs get lots of radio play, cough cough jeremy, alive, even flow
When somethings broke, I wanna put a bit of fixin on it
When somethings bored, I wanna put a little exciting on it
If somethings low, I wanna put a little high on it
When somethings lost, I wanna fight to get it back again
Lyrics don't always have to be rocket science! It's what you do with them that counts... I love Pearl Jam and The Beatles equally. If you have a low opinion of The Beatles go tell a Beatles forum?
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I don't like the beatles - that doesn't mean I don't think they were an important band it just means I don't enjoy listening to their music. It has nothing to do with history or recognition it has to do with personal preferences.
In response to the person who had a problem with me basing my opinion on the 2 albums I've heard - I don't tend to listen to the entire disocgraphy of bands whose albums that I have heard I've not enjoyed. I'd rather just move on to a band I do like.
Mike McCready makes the energizer bunny look tired.
"baby you can drive me car.....someday your going to be a star" LOL......wonder if that was made for the radio LOL..........Yellow Submarine........LOL That song really sucks..........Pearl Jam make the Beatles look like a bunch of pussies
The OP thinks The Beatles suck and Kurt Cobain is the greatest musician of all time. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say your favorite movie is Troll 2. I think you need a new message board to post on. Does Warrant have a message board?
At least listen to revolver, disc 1 of the white album, or abbey road before making such a statement!
mmm..abbey road..think I'll put that on now
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Funny as the Beatles come on my iPod on shuffle...
I will say that in my honest opinion, I respect the Beatles and acknowledge their untouchable impact on all things music. Their impact on pop culture is unprecedented. They'll be rememberd, and loved for even more decades to come. They inspired an ungodly amount of musicians that inspired more musicians that inspired more musicians...and all of us love or really like someone that has been majorly touched by The Beatles.
That being said... I personally don't get a raging hard-on at the thought or sound of them. I feel like I'm a minority because of this. However, I do own some of their music, and truthfully all I have ever cared to listen to more than a couple times are Abbey Road, Let It Be and The White Album.
Whoever said they liked Cocker's version of "With A Little Help From My Friends" better, I will definitely have to put my stamp of approval on that. Joe Cocker cranked that tune out so well it makes me forget that The Beatles even wrote it.
In conclusion, saying The Beatles sucked is a statement of irreversible ignorance. You don't have to like the tunes, but the group deserves to be respected to the fullest.
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Being age seven when they showed up here in America...I not only grew up with them, they grew up with me.
Each phase we went through together and it was age perfect.
For a true fan the music is like that. It's the growing together that makes it meaningful.
Your opinion is based in that you don't connect, have memories or have been enlightened by the Beatles.
But it's not too late for you
Personally I'm not a fan. I've got no problem with Lennon or Harrison, but I think Paul McCartney is a joke, and I don't feel they deserve anywhere near the respect they get from a musical standpoint. There seems to be an attitude that you have to love the Beatles if you're a true music fan or something, as if their stature is in no way debatable, which I don't agree with. Having said that, I get that they were hugely influential, and were important to the development of music and so on, but I can list quite a few musicians/bands that I'd consider to be both more talented and more inspirational, even if they aren't as well known or well recognized for it.
And to the OP - posting your thoughts by saying a band "sucks!" is probably not the best way to get people to agree with you (unless it's Creed ).
This is not for you...
Speaking as a child of the nineties
Seriously people, STOP giving this guy what he wants! Do you think he's being serious? There shouldn't have been ANY responses to this thread, yet here we are and the only thing we know for certain is that JP33 is jerking off to each and every one of you.
Seriously people, STOP giving this guy what he wants! Do you think he's being serious? There shouldn't have been ANY responses to this thread, yet here we are and the only thing we know for certain is that JP33 is jerking off to each and every one of you.
The OP thinks The Beatles suck and Kurt Cobain is the greatest musician of all time. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say your favorite movie is Troll 2. I think you need a new message board to post on. Does Warrant have a message board?
everybody´s entitled to have his own opinion, but I would have guessed that the Beatles would get more respect on a Pearl Jam forum, since I value the same elements in both bands. Apparently not....
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Was the OP loved as a child? Did the OP not read the whole lyrics for "Drive My Car"? The whole song is a metaphor for sex:
Asked a girl what she wanted to be,
She said, baby can't you see?
I wanna be famous, a star of the screen, But you can do something in between.
Baby, you can drive my car.
Yes, I'm gonna be a star.
Baby, you can drive my car and maybe I'll love you.
I told the girl that my prospects were good.
She said, baby, it's understood
Working for peanuts is all very fine, But I can show you a better time.
Baby, you can drive my car.
Yes, I'm gonna be a star.
Baby, you can drive my car and maybe I'll love you.
Beep beep mm, beep beep yeh!
Baby, you can drive my car.
Yes, I'm gonna be a star.
Baby, you can drive my car and maybe I'll love you.
I told that girl I could start right away,
And she said, listen, babe, I've got something to say. Got no car, and it's breaking my heart, But I've found a driver and that's a start.
Today, some rappers say something like, "I took that girl's pussy and fucked it all night." The Beatles had to be creative and figure out a way to use sex in their song without people knowing it.
As someone stated before, The Beatles revolutionized music. Every album they got better and better.
Their meeting with Bob Dylan on August 28, 1964 changed everything and you can hear the Dylan influence on the album "Beatles For Sale", then "Help!", and then, of course, the masterpiece, "Rubber Soul", where The Beatles helped create folk-rock.
The Beatles had a response to everything. Dylan released "Bringing It All Back Home" and "Highway 61 Revisited" and The Beatles responded with "Rubber Soul" (the greatest album ever, in my opinion). That was 1965. Dylan released "Blonde on Blonde" and The Beach Boys released "Pet Sounds" and The Beatles responded with "Revolver". That was 1966. The Beatles ended all competition with "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" in 1967. The Beatles said if it wasn't for "Pet Sounds", there wouldn't be a "Sgt. Pepper".
Brian Wilson said it was "Rubber Soul" that made him want to make "Pet Sounds" and 'compete' with The Beatles; it wasn't until he heard "Strawberry Fields Forever" that he just stopped competing with them and stopped making the "Smile" album.
Bob Dylan said the early work of The Beatles blew him away because of the chords and the chord changes they used. He said he had never heard anything like it before.
Also, if it wasn't for The Beatles, the Stones wouldn't be what they became. Their albums while The Beatles were a band was the same exact thing, just released six months later.
Sorry for the rambling.
I think the Beatles are over rated, and this cyclical process of the Beatles bringing in THE generation of music is flawed. Maybe the Stones would have led the NEW music generation. Unfortunately we can't go back into time and see what would have happened. Think of it this way: if Thomas Elva Edison didn't perfect the light bulb would we still be in the dark (BTW: he really did not invent it) hell no.... Progression is what it is. The Beatles just happened to be that band, in the right place, at the right time. I like some of the Beatles music, but for most I think it's just too blaa. Sorry, just my opinion, and I do not mean to offend anyone...
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Personally I'm not a fan. I've got no problem with Lennon or Harrison, but I think Paul McCartney is a joke, and I don't feel they deserve anywhere near the respect they get from a musical standpoint. There seems to be an attitude that you have to love the Beatles if you're a true music fan or something, as if their stature is in no way debatable, which I don't agree with. Having said that, I get that they were hugely influential, and were important to the development of music and so on, but I can list quite a few musicians/bands that I'd consider to be both more talented and more inspirational, even if they aren't as well known or well recognized for it.
Paul isn't a joke by a long shot. He's the most musically talented person in the band of amazing musicians. You could TRY to make a list of band that were more talented and inspirational and you would fail miserably.
Personally I'm not a fan. I've got no problem with Lennon or Harrison, but I think Paul McCartney is a joke, and I don't feel they deserve anywhere near the respect they get from a musical standpoint. There seems to be an attitude that you have to love the Beatles if you're a true music fan or something, as if their stature is in no way debatable, which I don't agree with. Having said that, I get that they were hugely influential, and were important to the development of music and so on, but I can list quite a few musicians/bands that I'd consider to be both more talented and more inspirational, even if they aren't as well known or well recognized for it.
Paul isn't a joke by a long shot. He's the most musically talented person in the band of amazing musicians. You could TRY to make a list of band that were more talented and inspirational and you would fail miserably.
Except for hipster bands, Dewie...they are way original and innovative.
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Personally I'm not a fan. I've got no problem with Lennon or Harrison, but I think Paul McCartney is a joke, and I don't feel they deserve anywhere near the respect they get from a musical standpoint. There seems to be an attitude that you have to love the Beatles if you're a true music fan or something, as if their stature is in no way debatable, which I don't agree with. Having said that, I get that they were hugely influential, and were important to the development of music and so on, but I can list quite a few musicians/bands that I'd consider to be both more talented and more inspirational, even if they aren't as well known or well recognized for it.
Paul isn't a joke by a long shot. He's the most musically talented person in the band of amazing musicians. You could TRY to make a list of band that were more talented and inspirational and you would fail miserably.
So here's my take on the importance of The Beatles....
A few years back, my 4th grade daughter was well on the path of all things Spears, GaGa, Hillary Duff, Aly and AJ etc... Avril was really no help. And then, GOD BLESS HIM, her Choir Instructor unveiled the Spring Concert theme -- A Tribute to The Beatles.
She was hooked. Certainly it was the early stuff that did it, the "bubblegum pop" of the time, but nevertheless ... within a year she was with me at the Gibson Amphitheater mesmerized by Ben Harper and Pearl Jam. We hit Jack Johnson together this past summer. She smiles and lies to her friends that their music is cool. She laughed hard when she played a "new" song she found for a friend who responded, "Oh that song is sooo last month." Internally she's thinking, "Um, ALL your music will be soooo last month soon!" She knows she's listening to tunes older than her dad!
Her fav band after The Beatles is Silversun Pickups (or probably now Zee Avi who opened for Jack). She's got Fiest and Bjork and Cranberries and 10,000 Maniacs (along with Pearl Jam and some Sleater-Kinney) and sure, some Taylor Swift, but just an AMAZING breadth of music on her iPod for a 12 year old. (And yep, a couple boots of Eddie singing Hide Your Love Away!) She listens to the "popular" pop radio stations just to be able to fake it with her friends. (I know, but being ostracized for you music tastes doesn't get cool until high school...)
But again, most important, The Beatles brought us together. We can ride together in the car and I really don't mind anything she'll pick off her iPod. No earbuds in, we can talk music together.
As for me, hey, "Baby Your a Rich Man," "She Said, She Said" and "Hey Bullfrog" are some of the heaviest hitting rock-n-roll songs around! Well, after "Dear Prudence." Didja all hear Liam tag that opening for Eddie?
This thread is full of people who forgot that music is completely subjective.
My thoughts on this topic:
The Beatles are probably the most discussed band of all time. They were, after all, the first real pop band. Therefore, they're the "lucky" ones who are stigmatized into being THE band that all other bands will in some direct or indirect way will be compared to. This turns them into more of an ANOMALY than anything. There's an interview with John Lennon on Anthology - 3 I believe - where he says that they were just "a really great band and nothing else". Well, I don't think he could be more wrong on that. I think there were a great pop band, as in they had this certain ability to write great, catchy numbers, that had mass appeal, but that was pretty much all they had going for them. They weren't THAT great as musicians, and they certainly didn't all have the same idea of the direction of the band.
That reason alone is why they became what they did - they masked (whether willingly or at the suggestion of the record company) their individual creative impulses to achieve the overall goal of a great pop song and mass appeal.
Look at the White Album. If you've done your research on The Beatles, The White Album, and it's writing and production, you know that each of the Beatles has their own "side" to it. The White Album is in my opinion the most important album to study in terms of Beatles history and analysis, because this was WHEN THEY ACTUALLY BROKE UP. They broke up when they were sick and tired of not being allowed to fully express themselves creatively. They weren't meant for each other. Paul, John, George, and Ringo were loved by the public because of WHO they were, not WHAT they created. By the time the White Album came out, The Beatles fanbase was changing dramatically. They weren't who they started off as. The Beatles, as we know them, exist as 2 bands. If you can't tell the two bands apart, then I suggest you do some more research on the Beatles.
Anyway, to relate this whole ramble to the original topic of the Beatles being overrated - YES they were overrated. And YES I know the OP says The Beatles SUCKED - but if they weren't as popular as they were, you probably wouldn't be saying they sucked, because there would be a lot more people who feel this way. In saying they SUCK you're saying they're OVERRATED.
So yes, The Bealtes are overrated. Does the music suck? Subjective.
oh and DewieCox, I can think of one band off the top of my head with more talent than The Beatles - PEARL JAM
I love Pearl Jam, but as a group, they don't have NEARLY the songwriting ability, and they would be the first to admit it. The 'third' songwriter in the Beatles wrote 'Something'...
And ass a bass player, Paul McCartney is head and shoulders above Jeff (and I love Jeff). Paul's lines are simply perfect.
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completely agree.
Yes songs like 'Obladi-oblada' and 'Yellow submarine' are quite lame, but the rest are not even close to being mediocre and we´re talking about a HUGE backlog!
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or should I say she once had me"
I feel bad putting this asinine thread back on top, but that's one of my favorite lyrics.
Great song, album, band!
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+1
not a huge mega fan, but i do like a fair amount of their stuff. if it can have an affect on people nowadays, i can only imagine how revolutionary it must have been when it was first being heard.
but like someone said, you can't force someone to like something. opinions are opinions
oh yeah and just because something is radio friendly, it doesn't mean it's a bad song. lots of good songs get lots of radio play, cough cough jeremy, alive, even flow
When somethings bored, I wanna put a little exciting on it
If somethings low, I wanna put a little high on it
When somethings lost, I wanna fight to get it back again
Lyrics don't always have to be rocket science! It's what you do with them that counts...
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In response to the person who had a problem with me basing my opinion on the 2 albums I've heard - I don't tend to listen to the entire disocgraphy of bands whose albums that I have heard I've not enjoyed. I'd rather just move on to a band I do like.
:roll:
Ridiculous.
ditto
mmm..abbey road..think I'll put that on now
I will say that in my honest opinion, I respect the Beatles and acknowledge their untouchable impact on all things music. Their impact on pop culture is unprecedented. They'll be rememberd, and loved for even more decades to come. They inspired an ungodly amount of musicians that inspired more musicians that inspired more musicians...and all of us love or really like someone that has been majorly touched by The Beatles.
That being said... I personally don't get a raging hard-on at the thought or sound of them. I feel like I'm a minority because of this. However, I do own some of their music, and truthfully all I have ever cared to listen to more than a couple times are Abbey Road, Let It Be and The White Album.
Whoever said they liked Cocker's version of "With A Little Help From My Friends" better, I will definitely have to put my stamp of approval on that. Joe Cocker cranked that tune out so well it makes me forget that The Beatles even wrote it.
In conclusion, saying The Beatles sucked is a statement of irreversible ignorance. You don't have to like the tunes, but the group deserves to be respected to the fullest.
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Each phase we went through together and it was age perfect.
For a true fan the music is like that. It's the growing together that makes it meaningful.
Your opinion is based in that you don't connect, have memories or have been enlightened by the Beatles.
But it's not too late for you
And to the OP - posting your thoughts by saying a band "sucks!" is probably not the best way to get people to agree with you (unless it's Creed
Speaking as a child of the nineties
I hope you all feel dirty.
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I think the Beatles are over rated, and this cyclical process of the Beatles bringing in THE generation of music is flawed. Maybe the Stones would have led the NEW music generation. Unfortunately we can't go back into time and see what would have happened. Think of it this way: if Thomas Elva Edison didn't perfect the light bulb would we still be in the dark (BTW: he really did not invent it) hell no.... Progression is what it is. The Beatles just happened to be that band, in the right place, at the right time. I like some of the Beatles music, but for most I think it's just too blaa. Sorry, just my opinion, and I do not mean to offend anyone...
Cheers...
Every life is falling down
Brown to black, it's coming back
Dies to be part of the ground
Seed to seedling, root to stem
Paul isn't a joke by a long shot. He's the most musically talented person in the band of amazing musicians. You could TRY to make a list of band that were more talented and inspirational and you would fail miserably.
Except for hipster bands, Dewie...they are way original and innovative.
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9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Maybe the Eagles, at least talent wise?
A few years back, my 4th grade daughter was well on the path of all things Spears, GaGa, Hillary Duff, Aly and AJ etc... Avril was really no help. And then, GOD BLESS HIM, her Choir Instructor unveiled the Spring Concert theme -- A Tribute to The Beatles.
She was hooked. Certainly it was the early stuff that did it, the "bubblegum pop" of the time, but nevertheless ... within a year she was with me at the Gibson Amphitheater mesmerized by Ben Harper and Pearl Jam. We hit Jack Johnson together this past summer. She smiles and lies to her friends that their music is cool. She laughed hard when she played a "new" song she found for a friend who responded, "Oh that song is sooo last month." Internally she's thinking, "Um, ALL your music will be soooo last month soon!" She knows she's listening to tunes older than her dad!
Her fav band after The Beatles is Silversun Pickups (or probably now Zee Avi who opened for Jack). She's got Fiest and Bjork and Cranberries and 10,000 Maniacs (along with Pearl Jam and some Sleater-Kinney) and sure, some Taylor Swift, but just an AMAZING breadth of music on her iPod for a 12 year old. (And yep, a couple boots of Eddie singing Hide Your Love Away!) She listens to the "popular" pop radio stations just to be able to fake it with her friends. (I know, but being ostracized for you music tastes doesn't get cool until high school...)
But again, most important, The Beatles brought us together. We can ride together in the car and I really don't mind anything she'll pick off her iPod. No earbuds in, we can talk music together.
As for me, hey, "Baby Your a Rich Man," "She Said, She Said" and "Hey Bullfrog" are some of the heaviest hitting rock-n-roll songs around! Well, after "Dear Prudence." Didja all hear Liam tag that opening for Eddie?
My thoughts on this topic:
The Beatles are probably the most discussed band of all time. They were, after all, the first real pop band. Therefore, they're the "lucky" ones who are stigmatized into being THE band that all other bands will in some direct or indirect way will be compared to. This turns them into more of an ANOMALY than anything. There's an interview with John Lennon on Anthology - 3 I believe - where he says that they were just "a really great band and nothing else". Well, I don't think he could be more wrong on that. I think there were a great pop band, as in they had this certain ability to write great, catchy numbers, that had mass appeal, but that was pretty much all they had going for them. They weren't THAT great as musicians, and they certainly didn't all have the same idea of the direction of the band.
That reason alone is why they became what they did - they masked (whether willingly or at the suggestion of the record company) their individual creative impulses to achieve the overall goal of a great pop song and mass appeal.
Look at the White Album. If you've done your research on The Beatles, The White Album, and it's writing and production, you know that each of the Beatles has their own "side" to it. The White Album is in my opinion the most important album to study in terms of Beatles history and analysis, because this was WHEN THEY ACTUALLY BROKE UP. They broke up when they were sick and tired of not being allowed to fully express themselves creatively. They weren't meant for each other. Paul, John, George, and Ringo were loved by the public because of WHO they were, not WHAT they created. By the time the White Album came out, The Beatles fanbase was changing dramatically. They weren't who they started off as. The Beatles, as we know them, exist as 2 bands. If you can't tell the two bands apart, then I suggest you do some more research on the Beatles.
Anyway, to relate this whole ramble to the original topic of the Beatles being overrated - YES they were overrated. And YES I know the OP says The Beatles SUCKED - but if they weren't as popular as they were, you probably wouldn't be saying they sucked, because there would be a lot more people who feel this way. In saying they SUCK you're saying they're OVERRATED.
So yes, The Bealtes are overrated. Does the music suck? Subjective.
Almost as mindless as your post above it.
And ass a bass player, Paul McCartney is head and shoulders above Jeff (and I love Jeff). Paul's lines are simply perfect.