Amazon pedophilia author arrested
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this fucking guy is SO vile :evil:
ST. PETERSBURG, Florida — Florida officials filed an obscenity charge Monday against the author of a self-published how-to guide for pedophiles that was yanked from Amazon.com last month after it generated online outrage .
Polk County sheriff's deputies arrested Philip Ray Greaves II hundreds of miles away from Florida at his home in Pueblo, Colorado, and charged him with violating Florida's obscenity law.
Polk Sheriff Grady Judd said his office was able to arrest Greaves on Florida charges because Greaves sold and mailed his book, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct," directly to undercover Polk deputies. Judd says Greaves even signed the book.
"He very proudly sold us his personal copy," Judd told the Associated Press. "I was outraged by the content. It was clearly a manifesto on how to sexually batter children ... You just can't believe how absolutely disgusting it was."
Laurie Shorter, spokeswoman for the Pueblo County Sheriff's Department, said Greaves would be held in the county jail on the Florida charge. He was being booked Monday morning and it was unclear if he has an attorney. Judd said Greaves could be in Florida as early as Monday night.
"If he will waive extradition, it's my goal for him to eat processed turkey on Christmas Day in the Polk County Jail," Judd said.
Denver attorney David Lane, who has handled several high-profile free speech cases, said Florida could have a hard time extraditing Greaves. He is entitled to a hearing where he can argue he should not be sent there to face charges.
"The main question is whether what he's accused of in Florida would be a crime in Colorado," Lane said. "Obviously, it's not a crime in Colorado because he hasn't been arrested here."
Writs of extradition — the paperwork necessary to send somebody to another state — are routinely signed by Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, a former Denver district attorney. But Lane, who is not affiliated with this case, said it involves a different set of issues.
"Most of other extradition cases present clear-cut cases, the defendant was dealing drugs in that other state or some other crime that is also illegal here," Lane said
Ritter's spokesman, Evan Dreyer, did not immediately return a message.
Greaves has no criminal record, but his self-published book of advice on how to make sexual encounters with children safe caused a flap when it showed up on Amazon in November. The book was later removed from the site.
Judd, known throughout Florida as a crusader against child predators, said he was incensed when he heard about the book and that no one had arrested Greaves for selling it.
.."What's wrong with a society that has gotten to the point that we can't arrest child pornographers and child molesters who write a book about how to rape a child?" Judd said.
The book included first-person descriptions of sexual encounters, purportedly written from a child's point of view.
Greaves argues in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds that it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.
Judd said he and his detectives got Greaves to sell the book to them for $50; he sent it through the mail and told officers it was his last copy.
"If we can get jurisdiction ... we're coming after you," Judd said. "There's nothing in the world more important than our children."
Greaves is being charged with distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors.
this fucking guy is SO vile :evil:
ST. PETERSBURG, Florida — Florida officials filed an obscenity charge Monday against the author of a self-published how-to guide for pedophiles that was yanked from Amazon.com last month after it generated online outrage .
Polk County sheriff's deputies arrested Philip Ray Greaves II hundreds of miles away from Florida at his home in Pueblo, Colorado, and charged him with violating Florida's obscenity law.
Polk Sheriff Grady Judd said his office was able to arrest Greaves on Florida charges because Greaves sold and mailed his book, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct," directly to undercover Polk deputies. Judd says Greaves even signed the book.
"He very proudly sold us his personal copy," Judd told the Associated Press. "I was outraged by the content. It was clearly a manifesto on how to sexually batter children ... You just can't believe how absolutely disgusting it was."
Laurie Shorter, spokeswoman for the Pueblo County Sheriff's Department, said Greaves would be held in the county jail on the Florida charge. He was being booked Monday morning and it was unclear if he has an attorney. Judd said Greaves could be in Florida as early as Monday night.
"If he will waive extradition, it's my goal for him to eat processed turkey on Christmas Day in the Polk County Jail," Judd said.
Denver attorney David Lane, who has handled several high-profile free speech cases, said Florida could have a hard time extraditing Greaves. He is entitled to a hearing where he can argue he should not be sent there to face charges.
"The main question is whether what he's accused of in Florida would be a crime in Colorado," Lane said. "Obviously, it's not a crime in Colorado because he hasn't been arrested here."
Writs of extradition — the paperwork necessary to send somebody to another state — are routinely signed by Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, a former Denver district attorney. But Lane, who is not affiliated with this case, said it involves a different set of issues.
"Most of other extradition cases present clear-cut cases, the defendant was dealing drugs in that other state or some other crime that is also illegal here," Lane said
Ritter's spokesman, Evan Dreyer, did not immediately return a message.
Greaves has no criminal record, but his self-published book of advice on how to make sexual encounters with children safe caused a flap when it showed up on Amazon in November. The book was later removed from the site.
Judd, known throughout Florida as a crusader against child predators, said he was incensed when he heard about the book and that no one had arrested Greaves for selling it.
.."What's wrong with a society that has gotten to the point that we can't arrest child pornographers and child molesters who write a book about how to rape a child?" Judd said.
The book included first-person descriptions of sexual encounters, purportedly written from a child's point of view.
Greaves argues in the book that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. He adds that it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law.
Judd said he and his detectives got Greaves to sell the book to them for $50; he sent it through the mail and told officers it was his last copy.
"If we can get jurisdiction ... we're coming after you," Judd said. "There's nothing in the world more important than our children."
Greaves is being charged with distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in conduct harmful to minors.
fuck 'em if they can't take a joke
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
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it makes me sick to think that people like that exist
and what's even more mindboggling (in a terrible way) is that amazon allowed it to be placed on their website? wtf? for real? they only took it off after it "generated public outrage" :evil:
hope he gets what he deserves
fucking sick perverted twisted creep
:evil:
That's what I was thinking. They should have been more patient and made sure they they could get him for good.
o.k., thank you i think i missed a step.
one less twisted piece of garbage breathing our good air
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the book tells how to do the least outwardly physical damage while you are fucking a child
how to fuck children, or rather fuck them up for the rest of their little lives, and stay on the edge of law
how to brainwash the child you want to fuck into thinking that they want it, too
It was described on amazon before they pulled it
the fucking title is
"The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure: a Child-lover's Code of Conduct,"
you think i cannot judge this book by its title
you may be right
but i will err on the side of "this guy is a lowlife sack of shit"
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
And his book, despite being pulled, probably sold more copies than any book I will ever release...
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Have I actually read what you wrote ?
He has written a book about how to sexually abuse children ... by the very fact of that he has either researched the facts of how to do this which would bring him into contact with abusers or possibly written from his own experience.
When police suspect child abuse often the only way to confirm that abuse is through entrapment ... paedophiles can,do and will take years and years to groom children before any actual abuse takes place.Therefore it would not be unusual to gather evidence by any means available ... as it should be ...
I work in child protection and the process that goes on for abuse to happen has kept me awake at night ... there is never room for benefit of the doubt when it comes to protecting children
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I'm disgusted by the subject matter of this book, and it sounds like a lot of it is tantamount to a confession to the most heinous of crimes..... The guy is obviously a scumbag and based on what I know of him, should be in jail...but people need to be wary of the precedents Florida is setting with these moral crusades.
Kind of feels like putting Al Capone away for tax evasion.
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I am at peace with my lust.....for Eddie.
really tho... my morbidly curious side would love to see whats actually in this book :oops:
how could anyone have the gall to put it down on paper?!?
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I have a tiny issue with someone being locked up for writing about how to commit a crime. Is it sick? fuck yes !! do I really care if he spends many years in prison for this book? not at all.
but,... writing about how to "get away" with a crime is not quite the same as him going out and fucking kids.
i know, i know,... its a thin line,... and I'm sure I will be blasted here for saying this.
I just wonder if we would be saying the same thing if someone wrote a how to book on "how to rob a bank" or something like that.
i agree this fucker is sick.
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karma will catch up with this guy like it caught OJ... assuming they don't lock him up on this charge... and i think they would be better off calling in chris hansen and getting a real charge
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Surlel, this guys writing isnt for real and he is just looking for 15 minutes of fame? or 15 minutes of beatings in prison? :evil:
Never ceases to make me sick with a percentage of humanity.
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I'm sure the guy knows from experience, and he's not just proclaiming what he thinks would work. How and why would you want to write a book on something like that if you didn't, and hadn't participated in it?
I'm not blasting you, but I feel that him writing this book is a clear indication of intentions he has had/has that were or will be acted upon.
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and you are probably right,.. 100% so. BUT,... if there is not proof that he has touched a child,... how can he be convicted for writing about it?
and you can't convict someone for thinking about something they would like to do,.. no matter how fucked up it is.
i just think we are getting into a really gray area of the law here,... and even though i would love to see this asshat off the streets,... i'm not sure i'm ready for people being arressted and convicted for something they write about in this country.
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What about the Manson conviction? I've wondered the same things... I mean, he just told people to go kill. He didn't kill anyone. I tell people to go fuck themselves all the time... Am I to blame if they actually do it?
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You're right. I do believe in "innocent until proven guilty".
I don't want to see people get arrested for something they write, as it is our right...but honestly...who the fuck would even publish something like this...and why in the world would Amazon allow this filth on their website? That's fucking disgusting.
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And many of us have probably been in contact with abusers... after all they look just like normal people sometimes
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