War Is Terrorism, With A Bigger Budget

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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Best of Times wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    Best of Times wrote:
    no offense.

    So...are you Marines? Army?


    Do you sleep with your students?

    Must be Navy.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    "Must be Navy".

    Now, that's funny! But again, no.

    Do you sleep w/ students?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    this is not a metaphor....

    "war is necessary"...


    i'm just sayin'...

    and yes, invading a country in an attempt to murder and occupy that land and terrorize the population, yes that is terrorism... and since it is state sponsored, the budget is much larger than your single person wearing a suicide belt...you might call it "war", but i am calling it what it is, "terrorism"..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    this is not a metaphor....

    "war is necessary"...


    i'm just sayin'...

    and yes, invading a country in an attempt to murder and occupy that land and terrorize the population, yes that is terrorism... and since it is state sponsored, the budget is much larger than your single person wearing a suicide belt...you might call it "war", but i am calling it what it is, "terrorism"..

    I'll put aside the epic lack of understanding you displayed in your last paragraph, and focus on the incorrect statement at the beginning: "War is necessary" is a as much a metaphor as "War is terrorism" or "War is hell", or "War is my aunt's cooking".

    If ignorance was people, you'd be China. THAT is a metaphor.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,459
    Best of Times wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    this is not a metaphor....

    "war is necessary"...


    i'm just sayin'...

    and yes, invading a country in an attempt to murder and occupy that land and terrorize the population, yes that is terrorism... and since it is state sponsored, the budget is much larger than your single person wearing a suicide belt...you might call it "war", but i am calling it what it is, "terrorism"..

    I'll put aside the epic lack of understanding you displayed in your last paragraph, and focus on the incorrect statement at the beginning: "War is necessary" is a as much a metaphor as "War is terrorism" or "War is hell", or "War is my aunt's cooking".

    If ignorance was people, you'd be China. THAT is a metaphor.
    you really should stop insulting people. that is all you do in your posts..insult after insult after personal attack...you really don't play well with others. i guess we all can't be as awesome as you, so we deserve to be attacked?

    i recognize that you need the attention and you are baiting me to retaliate. i am not gonna do it...

    if you can refute my post and my point and stay on topic then go for it. if not just keep doing what you are doing. just know personal attacks and insults are the first sign of a weak or outright lost debate. have a nice day.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    Told you it was a metaphor.... 8-)
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    whygohome wrote:

    So...are you Marines? Army?

    Since he seems to be dodging the question:
    Subject: My son is at ARMY Bootcamp
    Best of Times wrote:
    Did my Basic in '08 at Lackland AFB. It was the hardest and BEST time of my life. May thanks to you and your son for your service and best wishes in the future!

    (Go ARMY. except when ur playin Air Force!).
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    Drowned Out wrote:
    whygohome wrote:

    So...are you Marines? Army?

    Since he seems to be dodging the question:
    Subject: My son is at ARMY Bootcamp
    Best of Times wrote:
    Did my Basic in '08 at Lackland AFB. It was the hardest and BEST time of my life. May thanks to you and your son for your service and best wishes in the future!

    (Go ARMY. except when ur playin Air Force!).


    He didn't ask the right question..... (Army, Marines, Navy.) But thanx for using something nice I said about your son to backup some idiot you've never met in a chat room.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Best of Times wrote:

    He didn't ask the right question..... (Army, Marines, Navy.) But thanx for using something nice I said about your son to backup some idiot you've never met in a chat room.
    Nice...In two sentences, you've admitted to either not understanding, or avoiding a very simple question....You made two assumptions (that it was my son, and that I've never met whygohome), and you managed to hurl yet another insult. More bullshit in one post than most can type in a lifetime!
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    this is not a metaphor....

    "war is necessary"...


    i'm just sayin'...

    and yes, invading a country in an attempt to murder and occupy that land and terrorize the population, yes that is terrorism... and since it is state sponsored, the budget is much larger than your single person wearing a suicide belt...you might call it "war", but i am calling it what it is, "terrorism"..

    i tried linking the definition of metaphor to him but alas ... it didn't really help ... :lol:
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Best of Times wrote:

    He didn't ask the right question..... (Army, Marines, Navy.) But thanx for using something nice I said about your son to backup some idiot you've never met in a chat room.
    Nice...In two sentences, you've admitted to either not understanding, or avoiding a very simple question....You made two assumptions (that it was my son, and that I've never met whygohome), and you managed to hurl yet another insult. More bullshit in one post than most can type in a lifetime!

    I made that post 2 weeks ago in another chat room to another person. Forgive me for thinking it was you, but I didn't think any person had time to read through every post I've ever made, looking for personal info. That was a post made to a Veteran whose son is serving. This is not an insult, its a question: Are you retarded?
    Because the guy asked if I was Army or Marines, I replied No. He asked if I was Navy, I said No.
    Creepy Stalker. Just send your panties to the PO Box like all my other stalker/fans.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Best of Times wrote:
    I made that post 2 weeks ago in another chat room to another person. Forgive me for thinking it was you, but I didn't think any person had time to read through every post I've ever made, looking for personal info. That was a post made to a Veteran whose son is serving. This is not an insult, its a question: Are you retarded?
    Because the guy asked if I was Army or Marines, I replied No. He asked if I was Navy, I said No.
    Creepy Stalker. Just send your panties to the PO Box like all my other stalker/fans.


    - There is a difference between a chatroom and a BBS.

    - When you first began gracing us with your presence, I read two or three pages of your drivel to try to determine which banned troll you were....noticed your post about serving and it stuck with me.

    - No, I'm not retarded, but there ARE people here who are offended by that term, so seriously STFU

    - So it's true that you either didn't understand the question or you were playing grade-school games by not answering...yet you question MY mental capabilities?

    - You call ME a creepy stalker while sending me PM's saying all the same childish shit you're saying here?
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    You didn't have to bring my mom into it in your PMs. That was childish.

    And yes, you ARE creepy.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    meh...if that administrator is going to take that sort of attitude with you i would probably not go back to that forum. that admin should be smart enough to be able to see your point instead of being so defensive. and there are many scholars such as zinn and chomsky and others that have essentially said what your quote is....something like "war is terrorism, and nothing else"...

    i like how that admin said you are fun to beat up on in a debate. that tells us all we need to know about that website right there. also the passive aggressive way in which he/she threatened your account. i would tell them to kiss your former military ass and ask them how many former military people view war like you do and how many view it like they do. chances are, more of the former military folks would agree with you than that admin...

    This all went down over a week ago and the website has some serious issues especially if they think or feel you are left, lib, D or blue.All symbols, letters and colors and they mean nothing to me but on that
    Sean Hannity site they mean the world to them in that if you disagree they consider you to be a troll. I'm still there, I wasn't banned but I've caused quite a stir in posting things against the liking of Beck, Palin, Rush (not the band) and anything considered pro Obama. I posted a somewhat negative subject matter on Beck and in two days it had over 700 replies.

    In posting the quote as a signature I had no thoughts of American forces or the American military. Yes one could equate it to our military but that was not my intention. My thoughts were more to the devastation of war, what is does to the people caught up in those wars anywhere in this world and the terror they must feel from whatever military forces are causing the devastation of their country.

    How would we feel if some other military force were in our country bombing it to pieces? We would feel terrorized and would want it to come to an end. However, with the thoughts and words from Sean Hannity's site if some military force came here and took out the President it would be all good according to the things they post about our current President.

    Peace
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Best of Times wrote:
    You didn't have to bring my mom into it in your PMs. That was childish.

    And yes, you ARE creepy.
    Aw, are you offended? Your Mom Made Me Pancakes, don't take it personally.

    And for the record, I don't judge all military pesonnell by the actions of a few. I know a few of the more thoughtful posters here have served and managed to avoid the twisted indocrination our friend here could not see thru.
  • Best of Times
    Best of Times Posts: 296
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Best of Times wrote:
    You didn't have to bring my mom into it in your PMs. That was childish.

    And yes, you ARE creepy.
    Aw, are you offended? Your Mom Made Me Pancakes, don't take it personally.

    And for the record, I don't judge all military pesonnell by the actions of a few. I know a few of the more thoughtful posters here have served and managed to avoid the twisted indocrination our friend here could not see thru.


    AGAIN: Just send your panties to the PO Box like all my other stalker/fans. 8-)
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,167
    I personally don't find the quote to be offensive, but I can see how the mod could think that the quote implies that soldiers = terrorists, and is therefore offensive. My problem with the quote is that it is naive. "Terrorism" implies a negative moral judgement, but I think it is quite plain that there is such a thing as morally justified warfare. Would anyone today argue that the Allies were wrong to go to war with Nazi Germany? I don't mean to imply that war is ever a good thing, but it unfortunately is sometimes necessary, a fact that this quote utterly obscures.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    yosi wrote:
    I personally don't find the quote to be offensive, but I can see how the mod could think that the quote implies that soldiers = terrorists, and is therefore offensive. My problem with the quote is that it is naive. "Terrorism" implies a negative moral judgement, but I think it is quite plain that there is such a thing as morally justified warfare. Would anyone today argue that the Allies were wrong to go to war with Nazi Germany? I don't mean to imply that war is ever a good thing, but it unfortunately is sometimes necessary, a fact that this quote utterly obscures.


    morally justified war? there is no such thing. how can you justify burning 250,000 people alive, as the allies did in dresden? how can you justify incinerating 100,000 people with one bomb? you can certainly try, but at the end of the debate you have no moral ground to stand on.



    war is never the answer, to any problem.



    look at Gaza.

    look at Afghanistan.

    look at Iraq.


    they are not better now, in fact the opposite is true. war didn't solve a goddamn thing.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    edited December 2010
    ever since the dawn of time Man has used violence to settle disputes. and we always will. we will not wake up one day and be struck by revelation. thats not how it works. conflict exists throughout the animal kingdom so why should Man be exempt.. please do not cite our supposed superior intelligence cause that really isnt gonna cut it. does war terrorise? yes it does. is that its primary objective? no it isnt. therefore in my ever evolving and questioning educated opinion war is not terrorism. 8-)
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  • TriumphantAngel
    TriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    yosi wrote:
    I personally don't find the quote to be offensive, but I can see how the mod could think that the quote implies that soldiers = terrorists, and is therefore offensive. My problem with the quote is that it is naive. "Terrorism" implies a negative moral judgement, but I think it is quite plain that there is such a thing as morally justified warfare. Would anyone today argue that the Allies were wrong to go to war with Nazi Germany? I don't mean to imply that war is ever a good thing, but it unfortunately is sometimes necessary, a fact that this quote utterly obscures.
    over 50 million people died in ww2

    ww2 wasn't just about nazi germany. do the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki come under your definition of morally justified warfare too?

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