War Is Terrorism, With A Bigger Budget
g under p
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Does anyone here have a problem with this quote I would like your honest opinions? I have it as a quote below VVV and I used it on another site. They removed it and threatened to ban me and close out my account. I asked the mods/administrator why and this is basically what they said....
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Originally Posted by g under p
I was formerly in the military, so what does have to do with anything? It's your choice if you want to remove the entire account but there is terror through most wars.
Administrator..
If you're former military than you should know the definition of terrorism. And while people may be terrified during war, that doesn't mean that those that answer the call of their nation to protect it are terrorists. Your sig implied otherwise.
I'm not going to make a call on your removal, because I like having guys like you around. You're fun to beat up on in a debate. But given your flippant attitude about your membership here, if one of the other Mods want to dismiss you, I don't have a problem with it.
We have all sorts of wars the quote isn't specifically speaking to our military but to wars everywhere and anywhere. I'm NOT speaking of our Military as terrorists in anyway.
Peace
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Originally Posted by g under p
I was formerly in the military, so what does have to do with anything? It's your choice if you want to remove the entire account but there is terror through most wars.
Administrator..
If you're former military than you should know the definition of terrorism. And while people may be terrified during war, that doesn't mean that those that answer the call of their nation to protect it are terrorists. Your sig implied otherwise.
I'm not going to make a call on your removal, because I like having guys like you around. You're fun to beat up on in a debate. But given your flippant attitude about your membership here, if one of the other Mods want to dismiss you, I don't have a problem with it.
We have all sorts of wars the quote isn't specifically speaking to our military but to wars everywhere and anywhere. I'm NOT speaking of our Military as terrorists in anyway.
Peace
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i like how that admin said you are fun to beat up on in a debate. that tells us all we need to know about that website right there. also the passive aggressive way in which he/she threatened your account. i would tell them to kiss your former military ass and ask them how many former military people view war like you do and how many view it like they do. chances are, more of the former military folks would agree with you than that admin...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Better still, just remind the prick that the U.S was formally charged with state terrorism by the World Court for it's activities in Nicaragua in the 1980's.
while i don't agree with your quote their is in no way you should have been banned for that as it is not an unreasonable opinion to have, that website and their mods should chill the fuck out
Can you make a list in chronological order?
This is what I have off the top of my head:
Iran
Egypt
Chile
Vietnam
Panama
Nicaragua
Iraq
Afghanistan
As long as you don't disparage Muslim "freedom fighters", you'll get along great in here.
But if you had said this; PREVENTATIVE war is terrorism with a bigger budget. That I'd agree with. You know, going to war with a country because they *may* pose a threat to you in the future but have zero signs of being an imminent threat.
Even guys like Chomsky would agree that some wars are justified and therefore not a "terrorist" act. But I'd argue the last justifiable war this country took part in was WWII, so you're statement is essentially correct.
Who said anything about the "US Forces?" I thought it was obvious that he's talking about the people who make the war decisions, not the poor souls who are sent to die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7DdWmWUa_8
OK. But they're not sent to die. They're sent to kill.
okay I guess if we're going to get into the analytics of language then you're right, they're not all "sent to die." But they are sent over with the absolute certainty that SOME will, in fact, die.
Isn't "the analytics of language" what this thread is based on? Playful ways to debate the legality of all American wars since WWII?
Well, it is about a metaphor (war is terrorism). A metaphor is used to convey meaning, to show how two things are not alike in some ways but are alike in a crucial way somehow. It is not a "playful way to debate," metaphor is a cognitive tool that helps us better understand what the original poster is thinking. In this case, it helps us understand his thought that unjustified murder of innocent people is cruel and, depending on what country you live in, can be defined as either "war" or "terrorism." They are not interchangeable words, but are alike in a crucial way.
A wise man once said "all that is is metaphor."
it's not surprising you got that kind of response ...
Ok. Thanks for the English lesson.
War is necessary. There's a metaphor for ya.
So...are you Marines? Army?
By that logic, I could have asked the OP, "Are you a pussy? Liberal?"
No. And that was the dumbest question I've heard in a while.
So...are you Marines? Army?
Do you sleep with your students?
Must be Navy.
Now, that's funny! But again, no.
Do you sleep w/ students?
"war is necessary"...
i'm just sayin'...
and yes, invading a country in an attempt to murder and occupy that land and terrorize the population, yes that is terrorism... and since it is state sponsored, the budget is much larger than your single person wearing a suicide belt...you might call it "war", but i am calling it what it is, "terrorism"..
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'll put aside the epic lack of understanding you displayed in your last paragraph, and focus on the incorrect statement at the beginning: "War is necessary" is a as much a metaphor as "War is terrorism" or "War is hell", or "War is my aunt's cooking".
If ignorance was people, you'd be China. THAT is a metaphor.
i recognize that you need the attention and you are baiting me to retaliate. i am not gonna do it...
if you can refute my post and my point and stay on topic then go for it. if not just keep doing what you are doing. just know personal attacks and insults are the first sign of a weak or outright lost debate. have a nice day.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Since he seems to be dodging the question:
Subject: My son is at ARMY Bootcamp
He didn't ask the right question..... (Army, Marines, Navy.) But thanx for using something nice I said about your son to backup some idiot you've never met in a chat room.
i tried linking the definition of metaphor to him but alas ... it didn't really help ...