Chavez is now King...Sean Penn you are a Moron

13»

Comments

  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Guesses, yes. Second-hand opinions on HIS personal experiences, yes. I think you are ignoring most of my previous post though. Would you also say that a pro-Nazi German's 'first hand' opinion would trump that of an anti-Nazi living in another country? A lot of opinions can be formed by personal experiences and a lot of times you can be clouded by your personal experiences. If you protest against the government here and are deemed a threat to national security, the government can come and lock you up without trial thanks to the Patriot Act. That person would say we are living in tyranny, while someone in another country who hasn't experienced that would say that our government is completely fair and just. See - personal experience doesn't always tell the whole story. Just because arq has had a negative experience in Venezuela shouldn't automatically mean it is the whole story. That is just narrow minded thinking.
    Can you be locked up without trial due to the Patriot Act?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • hrd2imgn wrote:
    good discussion

    I was not comparing Obama to Chavez, more so Sean Penn and his Love affair for the creep. This board has a tendency to take Ed and his pal's words as gospel sometimes. Penn is Dead Wrong as Jose pointed out on what Chavez is and what he stands for.

    Glenn Beck is a schmuck, I don't watch him or any of the other ass kiss republican line toters from Fox News.

    Though Obama has some Socialist tendencies, and undeniable socialist/Marxist/Leninist ties and beliefs, I don't think he is even close to Chavez in scale of his urges to integrate more socialist policies in their respective governmental policies. Hugo flat out wants to be a king

    I'll take someone who has lived there's word as to how he is over a journalist with an agenda any day of the week. Yes you can Argue the first link is just that, but as Jose so eloquently pointed out the article is true true true and not swayed by a left right bias.

    If anyone thinks Chavez would give back that power they are just not aware of his diabolical plans and desires



    This dude gets it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    This dude gets it.

    And anyone who disagrees with you doesn't 'get it'?
  • arq wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    jon stewert had a venezuelan in his audience the other night.

    when asked how it was living under chavez, he shrugged and said,

    "its ok".

    i guess it depends who you ask.

    Yes because he wanted to say in national television "Chavez sucks" and then return to Venezuela to be "welcomed"...

    have anybody seem the devaluation of the Venezuelan money? the deterioration of the oil companies, the horrible condition of the public health service? what about the unemployment rate?

    Chavez is not a modern Robin hood people...

    Exactly..
    He's nothing more than a Tyrant.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    allnightthing-narrow minded? not really, just saying if you or anyone else on the train have not experienced what is happening in Venezuela then you don't really know,most of what we get on the news is more than likely half truths, you would have to be there to really know.

    Godfather.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    you would have to be there to really know.

    Not necessarily. I.e, There are millions of Americans who are completely ignorant of the crimes of their government. Being there, or not being there, has no bearing on what you might know, or on the truth of what you say.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    you would have to be there to really know.

    Not necessarily. I.e, There are millions of Americans who are completely ignorant of the crimes of their government. Being there, or not being there, has no bearing on what you might know, or on the truth of what you say.


    I'm starting to believe you are from China, or just longing for their style of "freedom".
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    you would have to be there to really know.

    Not necessarily. I.e, There are millions of Americans who are completely ignorant of the crimes of their government. Being there, or not being there, has no bearing on what you might know, or on the truth of what you say.

    I hate it when you do that...... :D

    Godfather.
  • ed243421 wrote:
    In a June 2010 interview with the Stephen Sackur on the BBC programme HARDtalk, Chávez said that when he had come to office he had been "gullible", and believed that a "Third Way", a sort of "Rhenish capitalism" – capitalism with a human face - was possible. But he then realised that he was wrong – "democracy is impossible in a capitalist system. Capitalism is the realm of injustice and a tyranny of the richest against the poorest. Rousseau said, 'Between the powerful and the weak all freedom is oppressed. Only the rule of law sets you free.' That's why the only way to save the world is through socialism, a democratic socialism."[80] On democracy, Chávez said that democracy wasn't just turning up to vote every five or four years – "it's much more than that, it's a way of life, it's giving power to the people ... it is not the government of the rich over the people, which what's happening in almost all the so-called democratic Western capitalist countries."[80]
    Secular progressive Loon..........America is the Greatest country in the world for many reasons. One the the most important reasons is CAPITALISM!!!!!! FREE MARKET!!!
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I'm starting to believe you are from China, or just longing for their style of "freedom".


    I'm starting to believe that your posts can't be anymore irrelevant.
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm starting to believe you are from China, or just longing for their style of "freedom".


    I'm starting to believe that your posts can't be anymore irrelevant.

    Like all your empty threads. 8-)
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    ed243421 wrote:
    In a June 2010 interview with the Stephen Sackur on the BBC programme HARDtalk, Chávez said that when he had come to office he had been "gullible", and believed that a "Third Way", a sort of "Rhenish capitalism" – capitalism with a human face - was possible. But he then realised that he was wrong – "democracy is impossible in a capitalist system. Capitalism is the realm of injustice and a tyranny of the richest against the poorest. Rousseau said, 'Between the powerful and the weak all freedom is oppressed. Only the rule of law sets you free.' That's why the only way to save the world is through socialism, a democratic socialism."[80] On democracy, Chávez said that democracy wasn't just turning up to vote every five or four years – "it's much more than that, it's a way of life, it's giving power to the people ... it is not the government of the rich over the people, which what's happening in almost all the so-called democratic Western capitalist countries."[80]
    Secular progressive Loon..........America is the Greatest country in the world for many reasons. One the the most important reasons is CAPITALISM!!!!!! FREE MARKET!!!

    USA! USA! USA! USA!
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
Sign In or Register to comment.