Education
mikepegg44
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... rights-law
interesting take on education. So I ask you what this article points to at the end
Is this a violation of human rights? More importantly, do we have the right to education, or is it simply a right for the pursuit of education?...meaning should the government be required to provide education, or just simply not make laws that would hurt someone's ability to become educated? hopefully that makes sense.
I know this is from the UK, but I think it is an applicable question across the board
interesting take on education. So I ask you what this article points to at the end
Is this a violation of human rights? More importantly, do we have the right to education, or is it simply a right for the pursuit of education?...meaning should the government be required to provide education, or just simply not make laws that would hurt someone's ability to become educated? hopefully that makes sense.
I know this is from the UK, but I think it is an applicable question across the board
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It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
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i think education up until secondary school (high school) should be free and mandated by the government ... post-secondary education being highly subsidized ...
I agree.
Godfather.
the subsidizing part is the only part I have a problem with, and it isn't because I don't think people should get help, just that I always wonder if there wasn't such a deep pool of federal loan money, would universities charge nearly as much for their services? But on the other hand if they didn't charge as much would they be able to get the best and brightest to teach...it is a pickle for sure.
I will say this, I would much rather the government pay for kids to go to college rather than kids to go to war.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
yeah ... i wholeheartedly agree ... i am conflicted because my understanding are many universities are flush with cash but still aggressively target alumni dollars and such ... in the end, money should not be the reason why a kid can't get a post-secondary degree ...
"Subsidized" means payed for by people who work, and given to peolpe who don't.
Might as well put in the Health Care bill....
you should answer the question I asked, is education a right?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I think you wanted to write "people" and not "peolpe"
depends on what you mean by "a right" I think grade school and highschool education is a right. don't know about university to be honest.
Gee, thanks fife. If you could follow me around the board and fix all my grammatical errors, I'd appreciate it.
Yes, children in this country have a right to a 12th grade education.
"Subsidized" means payed for by people who work, and given to peolpe who don't.
Might as well put in the Health Care bill....[/quote]
I think you wanted to write "people" and not "peolpe"[/quote]
Gee, thanks fife. If you could follow me around the board and fix all my grammatical errors, I'd appreciate it.[/quote]
I just thought that in a tread about education spelling should matter. but that just me
I think you wanted to write "people" and not "peolpe"[/quote]
Gee, thanks fife. If you could follow me around the board and fix all my grammatical errors, I'd appreciate it.[/quote]
I just thought that in a tread about education spelling should matter. but that just me[/quote]
TREAD should be THREAD and THAT should be THAT's
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
See, the way I see it is times change. There was a time when that 12th grade education was all that was needed for a career. Not so much anymore. While I certainly don't have the answer it seems perfectly reasonable to look at the possibilities of providing up to a BS degree for all students (or at least the opportunity to get one without finances getting in the way for them individually).
but the only problem with providing cheep or free schooling is eventually the state is going to need money and have to raise costs on education. and then we have what we have going on in england right now...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
right, costs definitely go up, just like anything else, I really feel a complete ovehaul of how we view education in the states is necessary. No one is really prepared for life when they graduate high school. We need to advance the learning earlier so the later years can be spent on teaching not only the importance of free thinking, but also vocational training. Why on earth does someone need to go to school after high school to become an electrician...we should be able to choose those things in school and be prepared when we are done. If we stop spending money on silly things we can start providing a real education system to our children...which in turn will create highly functional adults who hopefully can find gainful employment earlier in life which might lead to a decrease in the amount of people who need government services to survive...I don't know, but I do know something has to change, kids 15 years from now will be 40,000 in debt by the time they are done with higher education...the government should provide all it takes to get a decent job in the world, and right now a college education, or some form of secondary learning is darn near required.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
and paid not payed ... but i'm not feeding the you know what ...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Maybe I should start my own fan club...
yeah ... the pancake loving fan club ...
I don't think university should be free however, i think there has to be more opportunities for grants, scholarships. don't fool yourself , well known schools have a lot of money. but at the same time, i think we as people have to understand that not everyone can go to a UCLA or Harvard. Community college are also affordable ways of getting an education and i find that people look at community colleges like they are for dumb people.
That's the 2nd time someone has referred to pancakes... :?:
I'm almost afraid to ask...
A guy I work with is sending his kid to Northwestern for engineering when he could just pay a fraction of that cost and send him to in-state Purdue University ... and Purdue has a nationally recognized program that offers more diversity! But his wife is all about status and she couldn't stand to send her kid to a lowly state school. Oh well, I guess you can tax stupidity.
Seems stupid to leave the state and a good engineering school like Purdon't for Northwestern.
Why do they call it Purdon't?
They don't ... some people I know do, mainly just a sports team cutdown. It has a great engineering school. I considered it, but choose to stay in state at an equally good school in my opinion.
no need to pretend ... your MO is the same ... you've already got everyone on this board pegged - yet you just joined the 10C a week ago? ... your biggest tip off was sending that pm to satansbed ... you are trying really hard tho but your true nature will show itself ...
Actually, Harvard doesn't charge tuition to students that come from low-income families. Instead, the students work summer jobs and pay the university a portion of what they earn. Of course, you still have to be smart enough to get into Harvard in the first place, but it's a good idea.
Satansbed began namecalling, so I replied in a PM. Then "Sea" sent me a PM saying I could get banned for name-calling- even in PMs. So, I refrained. What's so wrong w/ that? Some people here act like this is your own private club... Last I heard, as long as my check clears, Pearl Jam says I'm welcome... So take it up w/ Ed if you don't like it.
Having people "pegged" is a nice way of saying you think I'm brilliant, I guess...