i agree with commy on this one, if jfk was shot from the back right, physics tells me that the pink matter seen on the car that jackie reached for should have been to the left front of the car, like on the hood, not towards the back of the car. the whole phenomenon of momentum should discredit a shot from the back and right side...
and if he was shot from the back right, why did his head clearly go back and to his left? working in medicine all of these years, and knowing detectives that work homicides for the major case squad, they say that there has never been a murder this ridiculous since caesar was murdered by brutus and cassius...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
what now? his brain was all you could see, from these pictures.
if you don't think he was shot in the front of the head....what was jackie o doing on the back of the car immediately after he was shot? looks to me like she was trying to put him back together.
What? Look at this picture and then tell me what you see:
I'm sure his brains went all over the place. They're not all going to land in one spot. But frame 313 clearly shows the front right side of his head exploding, not the back of his head. If the bullet exited out the back of his head then that cloud of blood/brains would be at the back of his head, not the front.
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i agree with commy on this one, if jfk was shot from the back right, physics tells me that the pink matter seen on the car that jackie reached for should have been to the left front of the car, like on the hood, not towards the back of the car. the whole phenomenon of momentum should discredit a shot from the back and right side...
and if he was shot from the back right, why did his head clearly go back and to his left? working in medicine all of these years, and knowing detectives that work homicides for the major case squad, they say that there has never been a murder this ridiculous since caesar was murdered by brutus and cassius...
That line about Brutus and Cassius....isn't that from the movie JFK??
This is what I posted earlier:
The Zapruder film clearly shows that the back of his head was intact after the head shot. You can see it clearly(conspiracy theorists never seems to notice this, but it's right there on the film). And his head didn't snap back so much as his whole body was thrown backwards. The reason for this is because Kennedy was wearing a back brace(under his suit jacket) at the time he was shot(not a lot of people knew this at the time). When he was shot in the head he was leaning forward. When the bullet struck his head from behind he was thrown back because his brace didn't allow for him to move forward, so the force of the impact snapped him in the opposite direction.
If you pause the Zapruder film a split second before the head shot and then go to the next frame(head shot) you will notice that Kennedy's head pitches slightly forward on impact(this proves the shot came from behind). And then his body is thrown backwards because he is wearing a back brace. If you have the movie JFK(which is full of BS) on dvd/blue rayyou can do this. There's actually a really good close up of the zapruder film that you can slow down and watch frame by frame.
You have to think, why would they shoot JFK from the front and back and then try to cover everything up by saying he was only shot from behind? Way too complicated. They could have just shot him from behind and blamed it on Oswald(which is still possible I guess).
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I'm sorry, but those pictures don't show the back of his head blown off. You can't even see the back of his head. All it shows is blood and brain matter stuck to his hair on the top of his head. I think you're seeing what you want to see.
Right.
And you don't think there MAY be a REASON for that?
Think about it.
The most infamous murder, BAR NONE, of the time, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET AN ACCURATE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HEAD WOUND -- ie. THE KILL SHOT?
It's like they bent over backwards to not show the hole in the head clearly, PERIOD.
The House Select Committee on Assassinations had to investigate this issue and recreate photos and drawings of the autopsy for their investigations. THIS WAS AN INVESTIGATION BY AMERICAN CITIZENS IN CONGRESS, NOT SOME "STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORISTS".
The below photo is from MaryFerrell.Com (which i believe to be the least ridiculous, and most serious \ scholastic of the conspiratorial websites ...BY FAR)
Left: HSCA drawing by mortician Tom Robinson.
Middle: HSCA drawing by FBI agent James Sibert.
Right: HSCA recreation of JFK autopsy photo.
(no autopsy photo shows rear head wound described
by Dallas doctors and autopsy participants) [WHY ??????????????????????] source page @ Mary Ferrell
FRONT OF THE HEAD?
Again,
even in this photo, where skin has apparently been deliberately "draped" back over to COVER THE ACTUAL SKULL SECTION you can still **CLEARLY** SEE IT IS ***NOT*** THE "FRONT" OF HIS HEAD THAT BLEW OFF.
If anything this is mid-right to anterior but NOT FRONT
Also notice the shaved spot in the front right of his head that most conspiracy theorists claim appears to be a SUTURE line where the front-shot bullet ENTRY WOUND was DELIBERATELY COVERED UP.
LOOK AT THE HSCA DRAWINGS AGAIN!
one more time for emphasis -- A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING UNDERSTANDING OF KENNEDY'S HEAD WOUND:
also,
if you want more DAMNING WORDS, here is Maugerite Oswald, Lee's mother, at his funeral talking, from the intro to a silly little "movie" i made.
I intrinsically trust what a grieving mother has to say.
What cause has she?
Bah. Haunting.
:(
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
And you don't think there MAY be a REASON for that?
Think about it.
The most infamous murder, BAR NONE, of the time, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET AN ACCURATE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HEAD WOUND -- ie. THE KILL SHOT?
It's like they bent over backwards to not show the hole in the head clearly, PERIOD.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the "they" you are referring to might be the Kennedy family? The Kennedy's are a powerful political family. You don't think they might have had something to do with all of this??
What happened to Kennedy's brain??
(130) "While Burke Marshall also maintained that he had no
actual knowledge of the disposition of the materials, he said it
was his speculative opinion that Robert Kennedy obtained and
disposed of these materials himself, without informing anyone
else. Marshall said Robert Kennedy was concerned that these
materials would be placed on public display in future years in an
institution such as the Smithsonian and wished to dispose of them
to eliminate such a possibility. Marshall emphasized that he does
not believe anyone other than Robert Kennedy would have known what
happened to the materials and is certain that obtaining or
locating these materials is no longer possible."
After watching the new NOVA episode about this, I am now 92% sure that-
The head shot came from behind
But, as always, I don't think LHO fired a shot that day
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I wrote a longer response to this, that i never sent yesterday because I got sidetracked by thanksgiving.
There is something else to consider when looking through the autopsy evidence and trying sift through the various theories and opinions regarding the placement of the headwound.
That consideration is the following:
Officer JD Tippit.
Not too many people even realize that Oswald was originally brought in for questioning regarding the seperate (supposedly unrelated) murder of Dalas Officer JD Tippit, 4 miles away from Dealey, earlier in the day.
What gets me about the Tippit murder is that it was *all too convenient*.
IF Oswald was framed, it seems just too perfect that he would of COURSE go murder someone ELSE just prior to killing JFK ... THUS ALLOWING THE POLICE TO APPREHEND HIM IMMEDIATELY, and to IMMEDIATELY reduce suspicion over kennedy's murder.
Then when you start realizing that there is INTENSE controversy surrounding the TWO autopsies, and the DISCREPANT reports of both the SIZE *and* LOCATION of the "rear" head wound, THEN when you see the autopsy photos and are trying to make sense of all of it, period ... THEN you notice THE FOLLOWING:
JEEZ.
*** IF YOU KNEW THERE WERE POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS WITH WOUND PLACEMENT ON YOUR TARGET, AND YOU NEEDED TO COVER IT UP, WOULDN'T YOU (if you could) PROCURE A "STUNT" DOUBLE ? ***
After watching the new NOVA episode about this, I am now 92% sure that-
The head shot came from behind
But, as always, I don't think LHO fired a shot that day
What's NOVA? Sounds interesting
A show on PBS
I think you can YouTube parts of the JFK special
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
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and if he was shot from the back right, why did his head clearly go back and to his left? working in medicine all of these years, and knowing detectives that work homicides for the major case squad, they say that there has never been a murder this ridiculous since caesar was murdered by brutus and cassius...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
What? Look at this picture and then tell me what you see:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/z335.jpg
I'm sure his brains went all over the place. They're not all going to land in one spot. But frame 313 clearly shows the front right side of his head exploding, not the back of his head. If the bullet exited out the back of his head then that cloud of blood/brains would be at the back of his head, not the front.
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That line about Brutus and Cassius....isn't that from the movie JFK??
This is what I posted earlier:
The Zapruder film clearly shows that the back of his head was intact after the head shot. You can see it clearly(conspiracy theorists never seems to notice this, but it's right there on the film). And his head didn't snap back so much as his whole body was thrown backwards. The reason for this is because Kennedy was wearing a back brace(under his suit jacket) at the time he was shot(not a lot of people knew this at the time). When he was shot in the head he was leaning forward. When the bullet struck his head from behind he was thrown back because his brace didn't allow for him to move forward, so the force of the impact snapped him in the opposite direction.
If you pause the Zapruder film a split second before the head shot and then go to the next frame(head shot) you will notice that Kennedy's head pitches slightly forward on impact(this proves the shot came from behind). And then his body is thrown backwards because he is wearing a back brace. If you have the movie JFK(which is full of BS) on dvd/blue rayyou can do this. There's actually a really good close up of the zapruder film that you can slow down and watch frame by frame.
You have to think, why would they shoot JFK from the front and back and then try to cover everything up by saying he was only shot from behind? Way too complicated. They could have just shot him from behind and blamed it on Oswald(which is still possible I guess).
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Right.
And you don't think there MAY be a REASON for that?
Think about it.
The most infamous murder, BAR NONE, of the time, AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET AN ACCURATE PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HEAD WOUND -- ie. THE KILL SHOT?
It's like they bent over backwards to not show the hole in the head clearly, PERIOD.
The House Select Committee on Assassinations had to investigate this issue and recreate photos and drawings of the autopsy for their investigations. THIS WAS AN INVESTIGATION BY AMERICAN CITIZENS IN CONGRESS, NOT SOME "STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORISTS".
The below photo is from MaryFerrell.Com (which i believe to be the least ridiculous, and most serious \ scholastic of the conspiratorial websites ...BY FAR)
Left: HSCA drawing by mortician Tom Robinson.
Middle: HSCA drawing by FBI agent James Sibert.
Right: HSCA recreation of JFK autopsy photo.
(no autopsy photo shows rear head wound described
by Dallas doctors and autopsy participants) [WHY ??????????????????????]
source page @ Mary Ferrell
FRONT OF THE HEAD?
Again,
even in this photo, where skin has apparently been deliberately "draped" back over to COVER THE ACTUAL SKULL SECTION you can still **CLEARLY** SEE IT IS ***NOT*** THE "FRONT" OF HIS HEAD THAT BLEW OFF.
If anything this is mid-right to anterior but NOT FRONT
Also notice the shaved spot in the front right of his head that most conspiracy theorists claim appears to be a SUTURE line where the front-shot bullet ENTRY WOUND was DELIBERATELY COVERED UP.
LOOK AT THE HSCA DRAWINGS AGAIN!
one more time for emphasis -- A CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING UNDERSTANDING OF KENNEDY'S HEAD WOUND:
also,
if you want more DAMNING WORDS,
here is Maugerite Oswald, Lee's mother, at his funeral talking, from the intro to a silly little "movie" i made.
I intrinsically trust what a grieving mother has to say.
What cause has she?
Bah. Haunting.
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Did you ever stop to think that maybe the "they" you are referring to might be the Kennedy family? The Kennedy's are a powerful political family. You don't think they might have had something to do with all of this??
What happened to Kennedy's brain??
(130) "While Burke Marshall also maintained that he had no
actual knowledge of the disposition of the materials, he said it
was his speculative opinion that Robert Kennedy obtained and
disposed of these materials himself, without informing anyone
else. Marshall said Robert Kennedy was concerned that these
materials would be placed on public display in future years in an
institution such as the Smithsonian and wished to dispose of them
to eliminate such a possibility. Marshall emphasized that he does
not believe anyone other than Robert Kennedy would have known what
happened to the materials and is certain that obtaining or
locating these materials is no longer possible."
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/brain.txt
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Give it back
After watching the new NOVA episode about this, I am now 92% sure that-
The head shot came from behind
But, as always, I don't think LHO fired a shot that day
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Wow! I've never tight of this before. Head spinning!
What's NOVA? Sounds interesting
it's in a jar used as a paper weight in in the oval office....and it's bush's fault.
Godfather.
But, as always, I don't think LHO fired a shot that day[/quote]
agreed !
Godfather.
A show on PBS
I think you can YouTube parts of the JFK special
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13